Magglio Ordonez to announce retirement Sun. at Comerica Park

[doctor_gogol]

Hall off Fame stats?
career .309 hitter with 294 home runs and 1,236 RBIs over 15 seasons

He's really on the cusp

http://www.freep.com/article/20120529/SPORTS02/120529053/Magglio-Ordonez-will-announce-retirement-Sunday-Comerica-Park

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Hall off Fame stats?
career .309 hitter with 294 home runs and 1,236 RBIs over 15 seasons

He's really on the cusp

http://www.freep.com/article/2012052...-Comerica-Park

A very good player for sure, but not HOF worthy, IMO. I'd put someone like Brian Giles in way before I would put in Magglio.

[doctor_gogol]

A very good player for sure, but not HOF worthy, IMO. I'd put someone like Brian Giles in way before I would put in Magglio.

Why Giles? Mags has better numbers all around and was more valuable to his team. Not to diminish Giles, but I don't see him as above Ordonez

Thats not saying Mags definitely belongs. I still say he's on the cusp and yes or no arguments both are valid.

[KevinWI]

I always liked Ordonez.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Why Giles? Mags has better numbers all around and was more valuable to his team. Not to diminish Giles, but I don't see him as above Ordonez

Thats not saying Mags definitely belongs. I still say he's on the cusp and yes or no arguments both are valid.

Giels was the slightly better hitter.

Brian Giles
.291/.400/.502, 136 OPS+, 48.4 WAR

Maglio Ordonez
.309/.369/.502, 125 OPS+, 34.6 WAR

[doctor_gogol]

Magglio 294 HRs/1236 RBIs/2156 Hits

Giles 287 HRs/1078 RBIs/1897 hits

Its really pretty close

[GiambiJuice]

Magglio Ordonez. A consistently good, and somewhat underrated, hitter, but was never really one as one of the top 15-20 players in the game at any time (except for his monster 2007 season).

Just for fun I ran a Baseball-Reference Play Index search of players with at least a .309 batting average and at least 294 home runs and surprisingly (to me) only 18 players including Magglio Ordonez have done both. But to be fair, it's a major a cherry pick since Maggs is at the bottom end of both stats.

.309 BA and 294 HR

Babe Ruth
Manny Ramirez
Jimmie Foxx
Ted Williams
Lou Gehrig
Stan Musial
Albert Pujols
Vlad Guerrero
Larry Walker
Joe Dimaggio
Johnny Mize
Todd Helton
Hank Greenberg
Edgar Martinez
Al Simmons
Rogers Hornsby
Chuck Klein
Magglio Ordonez