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  • Richard
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    Lots of batspeed. Fun to watch at the plate.

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  • four tool
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    Originally posted by Defense Counts! View Post
    He's obviously on steroids.

    You know, the magic kind, which are undetectable, don't cause bulking up, and that no-one else in the game knows about.
    I agree, because everyone having a similar career arc must be cheating somehow, he said sarcastically.

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  • Defense Counts!
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    Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
    Still have my suspicions about rather or not he used Roids.
    He's obviously on steroids.

    You know, the magic kind, which are undetectable, don't cause bulking up, and that no-one else in the game knows about.

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  • Tenorman
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    Originally posted by Gee Walker View Post
    Bautista also was a rule 5 draft in 2004, which must have really messed him up. Baltimore to Tampa Bay to Kansas City, all in the same year, for a guy who had just come from a pretty good year in A ball. Three different hitting coaches, all for a grand total of 96 plate appearances in 2004. No wonder he got messed up.
    I think we can safely say he has gotten over it.

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  • Gee Walker
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    Bautista also was a rule 5 draft in 2004, which must have really messed him up. Baltimore to Tampa Bay to Kansas City, all in the same year, for a guy who had just come from a pretty good year in A ball. Three different hitting coaches, all for a grand total of 96 plate appearances in 2004. No wonder he got messed up.

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  • GiambiJuice
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    Originally posted by Brooklyn View Post
    he was with the Mets? I hadn't heard that and don't see it in his minor league career on baseball-reference. Are you sure?
    He was a member of the Mets for less than one day before they swapped him to the Pirates. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...02.shtml#trans

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  • Gee Walker
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    Originally posted by dominik View Post
    His career arc is definitely suspicious. I even started a thread about this a year ago or so. there have been late starts but we never saw a player being a replacement player for several years and then turning into a star in the late 20s.
    That basically is the career arc of Cecil Fielder, Hank Sauer, Dolph Camilli, David Ortiz, Ted Kluszewski, Cy Williams and a bunch of other power hitters who fail their first shots at the majors because the only thing their managers noticed was a lousy batting average.

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  • Brooklyn
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    Originally posted by Imapotato View Post
    ...the Mets and Pirates hitting instructor and managers are to blame

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    he was with the Mets? I hadn't heard that and don't see it in his minor league career on baseball-reference. Are you sure?

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  • pheasant
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    Bautista has certainly found his groove. He put up some huge numbers last year while drawing 132 BB in only 149 games. That's pretty impressive.

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  • GiambiJuice
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    Originally posted by Imapotato View Post
    I read his story last season...I believe it was something about keeping his head down and a slight adjustment to his stance that the Blue Jays hitting instructor and Cito Gaston showed him...which shows Cito Gaston is a HOFer
    Really? A manager for only 12 seasons is a HOFer?

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  • Imapotato
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    I read his story last season...I believe it was something about keeping his head down and a slight adjustment to his stance that the Blue Jays hitting instructor and Cito Gaston showed him...which shows Cito Gaston is a HOFer

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  • dominik
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    Originally posted by RDB_SoxFan View Post
    I think hes legit. He has lightning quick hands and can spin like a top on inside fastballs. I say yes on leading the league in HRs again this year.
    His career arc is definitely suspicious. I even started a thread about this a year ago or so. there have been late starts but we never saw a player being a replacement player for several years and then turning into a star in the late 20s.

    But I think the approach also has something to do with the improvement. he has said that he now swings earlier. I think he now has just acccepted that he is a dead pull hitter. he now just extremely crowds the plate and waits for a ball middle in and then spins on it like crazy and otherwise takes the pitch.

    if a pitch is outside he can still not doo much with it. at the beginning pitchers just threw him outside and he struggled with that mightily. but somehow he could turn it around, I don't know if he crowds the plate even more (to make the middle out pitch into a middle pitch) or pitchers are now missing more over the plate.

    I also feel like he was trying to let the ball get deeper and work away at the start of the season but then realized that he is a slugger an not a hitter going back to his old approach of pulling everything.

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  • PlanetZoltan
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    I think hes legit. He has lightning quick hands and can spin like a top on inside fastballs. I say yes on leading the league in HRs again this year.

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  • fenrir
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    Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
    Still have my suspicions about rather or not he used Roids.
    It's understandable suspicion for sure, but all MLB can do is keep testing him and everybody else on a regular basis, and if he passes all his tests, then that's that. Can he be on something undetectable? Absolutely, but then again maybe he's legit. There's simply no way of ever knowing the truth for sure. For now I'll marvel at his excellent home run prowess until I have a legitimate reason to suspect him of using steroids or other illegal performance enhancing drugs.

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  • Imapotato
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    Bautista has been followed closely and it is ALMOST (never say never) that his flawed swing was the reason he had promise but couldn't deliver and for that the Mets and Pirates hitting instructor and managers are to blame

    As soon as he fixed a small mechanically error in his swing, he started hitting slightly under the ball instead of line driving it.

    I will go with that until it is proven otherwise

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