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  • milladrive
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    Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
    I'm not convinced that Selig either originated this idea or that he supports it. I think this idea was from Fox and they pay enough for MLB to take them seriously.
    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    I can only think of two reasons:

    1. This arrangement somehow benefits the brass now and they don't want it to be removed or taken away.

    or

    2. They're brainless morons.

    Extreme choices, yes, but as odd as Selig and the owners act, they're not complete blithering idiots. This "home field in the World Series determined by the All-Star Game" arrangement has to benefit them in some way. Otherwise, they'd get rid of it.
    I tend to agree with Ed and Sam's Reason 1 on this. During every Fox broadcast, they play up the ASG's effect on the postseason as a selling point, despite the majority of fans being thoroughly against it. Not surprising, though. Like most things Fox, they've got their own agenda regardless of what the people want, and they push it on the very people who think it's a bad idea. Kinda reminds me of the lie that, if told enough, becomes "truth."

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    I can only think of two reasons:

    1. This arrangement somehow benefits the brass now and they don't want it to be removed or taken away.

    or

    2. They're brainless morons.

    Extreme choices, yes, but as odd as Selig and the owners act, they're not complete blithering idiots. This "home field in the World Series determined by the All-Star Game" arrangement has to benefit them in some way. Otherwise, they'd get rid of it.

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  • EdTarbusz
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    Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
    The ASG determining WS HFA is the stupidest idea of Bud Selig's tenure as Holy Man of MLB. And I think he's supported a lot of bad ideas.
    I'm not convinced that Selig either originated this idea or that he supports it. I think this idea was from Fox and they pay enough for MLB to take them seriously.

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  • milladrive
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    Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
    The ASG determining WS HFA is the stupidest idea of Bud Selig's tenure as Holy Man of MLB. And I think he's supported a lot of bad ideas.
    Agreed.

    Originally posted by DownUnderDodger View Post
    I am totally with you there, and after seeing that there will be a "Red Carpet" introduction for the players to be televised live, it makes more of a joke of this pick up game. Why not just poll the fans on who should get the home advantage - it would have as much meaning as the ASG.
    Also agreed. I mean, even in this poll's brief time, based on the votes of 19 members, 16 of them have voted "no." Now, I would say BBF is a good sampling of baseball fans. So, if the overwhelming majority of baseball fans are against the ASG having an impact on the postseason, why wouldn't MLB listen to the very people who keep them in business? Makes zero sense to me.

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  • quagmire
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    Originally posted by Bulldog19 View Post
    They should choose home field advantage based on the average attendance for the two teams in the World Series... It's a win-win situation.... if fans want their team to possibly have HFA, they have to show up throughout the season. And the team makes more money, the league makes more money, and everybody's happy
    Think the Rays will oppose that idea....

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  • Bulldog19
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    They should choose home field advantage based on the average attendance for the two teams in the World Series... It's a win-win situation.... if fans want their team to possibly have HFA, they have to show up throughout the season. And the team makes more money, the league makes more money, and everybody's happy

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  • GiambiJuice
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    I think it's a stupid idea and I doubt it's helped increase fans' interest in the AS game at all. That being said it isn't any worse than alternating each year between AL and NL. That is stupid too. The team with the better overall record or the better interleague record should get home field advantage in the WS. It's an advantage that should be earned by the team that's actually in the WS, not by some relief pitcher from the Pirates or Royals during an exhibition game.
    Last edited by GiambiJuice; 06-30-2012, 11:50 PM.

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  • Rich the Giants fan
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    The ASG determining WS HFA is the stupidest idea of Bud Selig's tenure as Holy Man of MLB. And I think he's supported a lot of bad ideas.

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  • DownUnderDodger
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    Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    I'm completely opposed to having the ASG-winning league get home field advantage, regardless of how important it really is. It's just an artificial construct created to make people care about the ASG, which is excruciatingly dull most years. I'm on record here as saying I wouldn't care if they dropped the game altogether. It's an overblown snooze-fest.
    I am totally with you there, and after seeing that there will be a "Red Carpet" introduction for the players to be televised live, it makes more of a joke of this pick up game. Why not just poll the fans on who should get the home advantage - it would have as much meaning as the ASG.

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  • milladrive
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    Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    Well, math wasn't my best subject, but I was responding more to the 50.9%, than the 53.9%.

    I'm completely opposed to having the ASG-winning league get home field advantage, regardless of how important it really is. It's just an artificial construct created to make people care about the ASG, which is excruciatingly dull most years. I'm on record here as saying I wouldn't care if they dropped the game altogether. It's an overblown snooze-fest.
    I'm with you. ...although I think their primary M.O. was to construct it to make the players care more about the ASG, ever since Mr. Jeter made a point of making public his intent to not play as hard as he normally would because he viewed it as a meaningless exhibition game, which, incidentially, it ultimately is. This is why I think it shouldn't have any effect whatsoever on the postseason.

    But, like you, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if they did away with it altogether. ...or perhaps played it indoors during the offseason. As it is, I don't even watch it, and it only serves to make me miss regular baseball for three or four days.

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  • ol' aches and pains
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    Originally posted by ipitch View Post
    So, you think 53.9% = 46.1%?
    Well, math wasn't my best subject, but I was responding more to the 50.9%, than the 53.9%.

    I'm completely opposed to having the ASG-winning league get home field advantage, regardless of how important it really is. It's just an artificial construct created to make people care about the ASG, which is excruciatingly dull most years. I'm on record here as saying I wouldn't care if they dropped the game altogether. It's an overblown snooze-fest.

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  • DiggerODell
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    I don't prefer the way it currently is.

    1. Allow the team which advances to the World Series with the best won-loss percentage have the home field advantage. Even if baseball teams don't enjoy as big of an advantage as other sports . . . allow this for the FANS. The team with HFA fans will potentially get one more game in which to attend compared to their home team's opponents fans. If your a true baseball fan, you know this is important as well, to a fan.

    OR

    2. If they insist on making the All-Star game winning league decide the HFA for the series . . . stretch the All-Star break to 5-6 days and allow the manager to strategize absolute! Let him play his best team for 9 innings (barring extra innings of course). Allow his starting pitcher to go 7-8-9 innings . . . don't play every member of the team merely to play them and give them an appearance. If something as important as HFA is to be decided with this contest, measures should be taken to allow league representative team to do all they can to win the game. Obviously, the longer break is to insure starting pitchers could slip right back into their own teams rotation without short rest.

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  • ipitch
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    Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    If it happens as often as not, what does that prove?
    So, you think 53.9% = 46.1%?

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  • ol' aches and pains
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    Originally posted by ipitch View Post
    So, it's just a coincidence that home teams have won at least 50.9% of games for at least 90 straight seasons? 53.9% on average.
    If it happens as often as not, what does that prove?

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    I love the All-Star Game, but the HFA thing is quite artificial. There's no point to it.

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