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    I was curious but are the rules different for a starting pitcher in the ASG. If either Verlander or Cain pitch only one inning and one has the lead after pitching just one inning would they be eligable for the win?

    Or does the same 5 inning minimum apply or maybe a 3 inning minimum?
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    I don't think any minimum applies. I'm sure it's not five innings, I don't think anyone's pitched five innings in the ASG. And I don't think it's three innings, either. but I don't know what the rule is.
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    • #3
      There is no minimum number of IP necessary to earn an all-star win. It's an exception to the rule, since pitchers won't ever see anything close to five innings. Once upon a great long time ago perhaps, but not in a long time.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
        I don't think any minimum applies. I'm sure it's not five innings, I don't think anyone's pitched five innings in the ASG. And I don't think it's three innings, either. but I don't know what the rule is.
        I think pitchers can only pitch 3 innings maximum today to keep a manager from burning out an opponents ace. I think pitchers used to start and go as long as possible. I am pretty sure Spahn and Koufax went more than 5.

        Well not koufax. I found that Mel Harder pitched 5 innings in relief in '34. Its funny that Gomez, Ruffing and Harder were the 3 best the AL had at that time. And Pierce started 3 and Gomez 5.
        Last edited by brett; 07-09-2012, 05:43 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by brett View Post
          I think pitchers can only pitch 3 innings maximum today to keep a manager from burning out an opponents ace. I think pitchers used to start and go as long as possible. I am pretty sure Spahn and Koufax went more than 5.
          I checked and Koufax only pitched as many as 3 innings once (1966, Koufax's last season). I was surprised how much Koufax didn't pitch in the All-Star game.

          1961- 0 IP, faced 1 batter (1st game), 2 IP (2nd game)
          1962- Didn't pitch either game
          1963- Didn't pitch
          1964- Didn't pitch
          1965- 1 IP (got the win)
          1966- 3 IP
          Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 07-09-2012, 06:04 PM.
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          • #6
            I checked all the All-Star Game boxecores through 1966. Pitching more than 3 innings was never common. It only happened the following years.

            1935
            Hal Schumacher 4.0 IP
            Lefty Gomez 6.0 IP

            1939
            Bob Feller 3.2 IP

            1942
            Spud Chandler 4.0 IP
            Al Benton 5.0 IP

            1950
            Larry Jansen 5.0 IP

            1955
            Frank Sullivan 3.1 IP
            Joe Nuxhall 3.1 IP

            1956
            Johnny Antonelli 4.0 IP

            1957
            Lew Burdette- 4.0 IP

            1958
            Ray Narleski 3.1 IP
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            • #7
              I've just looked through every all-star game box score. There have been four examples of a pitcher throwing four innings, another four who threw five innings and just one, Lefty Gomez in 1935, who went six innings (he got the win). Gomez was the only one of those pitchers who started the game, meaning Gomez is the only all-star starter who has ever thrown more than three innings. Johnny Antonneli was the last pitcher to go four innings (and got the save) in 1956. The last pitcher to throw as many as three innings in an ASG was Greg Maddux in 1994. George Sherrill, with 2.1 IP in 2008, is the only pitcher since Maddux to retire as many as 7 batters.

              Edit: Oops, missed Burdette.
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              • #8
                Found one more.

                1967
                Catfish Hunter 5.0 IP
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