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Just curious which is better and for which reasons i was just thinking about it today and thought i would ask.
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It's not so much the speed IMO, it's the deception of making it look like a fastball's coming."Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers -
What are the other pitches like? It depends partly on what else he's got.San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
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Fastball high 90's Change 85-88 Slider 92 two seam 90-93mphOriginally posted by Rich the Giants fan View PostAll it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
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If his change is 85-88, I'd rather have a little slower curve to help keep the hitters off balance.Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostSan Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
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Wouldn't a faster curve seem like a FB and then the good break keep em off balanceOriginally posted by Rich the Giants fan View PostAll it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
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With all things being equal, it's tougher to hit the slow curve. The slower curve messes up a batters's timing more.Comment
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To me it's not the speed, but location, location, location“Well, I like to say I’m completely focused, right? I mean, the game’s on the line. It’s not like I’m thinking about what does barbecue Pop Chips and Cholula taste like. Because I already know that answer — it tastes friggin’ awesome!"--Brian WilsonComment
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As in where he is locating his curve?Originally posted by KHenry14 View PostAll it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
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As pheasant said in #7, the slower curve would make it more difficult to get the timing down, if you've got three different speed pitches. It wouldn't hurt, though, if you had a slower AND a bit faster curve, which would play well off the changeup. But as KHenry said, it's really all about location. If you can locate and keep hitters off balance, you've won 90% of the battle.Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostSan Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
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Yep, it all depends on the other pitches. The greater the difference between the fastball and the off-speed pitches, the more it messes with the hitter. If he can locate a slower curve to contrast with a 93 MPH heater, he'll do well.
Warren Spahn said it best: "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing." and "A pitcher needs two pitches, one they're looking for and one to cross them up.""I can see how he won twenty-five games. What I don't understand is how he lost five." - Yogi Berra on Sandy Koufax's 1963 season.Comment
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If their motion doesn't change between the curve and the fastball, i.e., he isn't tipping his pitches, then a slow curveball can be brutal. End up swinging off your front foot, lunging out toward the ball that hasn't made it to the plate yet.
Swing and a drive! This one is deep! This one is... over the fence and into the neighbor's yard! Comment
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