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  • Mr. SELIG If you ever read this

    You forced the former Dodgers owner out and now it's time to force the clowns out in Miami (Samson and Luria). The public paid for a great new stadium and now after four months they are dismantling the team. I actually thought business as usual in Miami was over and it's deja vu all over again. We've never had a good owner here in Miami. Say it ain't so.

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    Richard (or Selig), your sentiments are understood completely. However, in addition to Miami's ownership, other owners have highly questionable track records and deserve scrutiny. IMO, David Glass deserves investigation on an annual basis over his plans for the Royals.

    As announcers have called scouting an inexact science, virtually all that General Managers are asked to do amount to inexact sciences. It is not possible to know how any given year will turn out. However, after some time, it becomes clear that some teams fare better than others and it becomes too easy for fans like ourselves to decide that the owners are either not trying (David Glass) or not up to the responsibilities of ownership (the Marlins).

    Whoa. The responsibilities of ownership? Well, yes, .... the responsibilities of ownership because it would be an owner's responsibility to market the game of baseball within his/her/their region of the country for the sake of the longrun future of baseball. The owners are stewards of the game, and the Marlins, Royals and probably a few other owners are not delivering.

    Eh.... there I go again.
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    • #3
      I gotta agree Marlins ownership is horrible i mean you promise to spend and put a winnings product on the field and get the public to pay for your stadium and then you have a firesale that's pathetic and just aggravating to me!
      All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

      A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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      • #4
        The Marlins are run by the same people who ran the Expos into the ground. These guys have a long track record of shadiness.
        Baseball Junk Drawer

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        • #5
          I agree about Loria.

          David Glass bugs me too. What's worse about Glass is there are actually Royals fans who defend him.

          Changing ownership is good. There are a dozen teams you can point too for this (Rangers, Brewers, Rays, etc. etc.). Why some Royal fans continue to defend old man Glass is beyond me.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KevinWI View Post
            David Glass bugs me too. What's worse about Glass is there are actually Royals fans who defend him.

            Changing ownership is good. There are a dozen teams you can point too for this (Rangers, Brewers, Rays, etc. etc.). Why some Royal fans continue to defend old man Glass is beyond me.
            I'm guessing those defenders are in the minority.
            Baseball Junk Drawer

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            • #7
              Who did they trade at the top of their game? Gabby has given them 2 half seasons worth of good ball. Hanley hasn't done jack since 2010 and that year was a drop off from his 3 previous and for doing jack he was making $15 million per. Infante was having an average year at $4 millions. Anibal wasn't worth his $8 million paycheck(free to move on after the season). Volstad has been a bust, as had Dominguez. Was it worth keeping Choate around when he turns 37 before the season is over and is a free agent after?
              Last edited by Buczilla; 07-31-2012, 09:39 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by abolishthedh View Post
                Richard (or Selig), your sentiments are understood completely. However, in addition to Miami's ownership, other owners have highly questionable track records and deserve scrutiny. IMO, David Glass deserves investigation on an annual basis over his plans for the Royals.

                As announcers have called scouting an inexact science, virtually all that General Managers are asked to do amount to inexact sciences. It is not possible to know how any given year will turn out. However, after some time, it becomes clear that some teams fare better than others and it becomes too easy for fans like ourselves to decide that the owners are either not trying (David Glass) or not up to the responsibilities of ownership (the Marlins).

                Whoa. The responsibilities of ownership? Well, yes, .... the responsibilities of ownership because it would be an owner's responsibility to market the game of baseball within his/her/their region of the country for the sake of the longrun future of baseball. The owners are stewards of the game, and the Marlins, Royals and probably a few other owners are not delivering.

                Eh.... there I go again.
                Save the Royals!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
                  That's from 6 years ago and unfortunately is just as accurate today.

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                  • #10
                    Hey Buck. I'm glad to see your pirates back! Go Reds, but I remember the "we are family" pirates in 1979. Good pennant race this year!
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                    • #11
                      First on the chopping block should be Wilpon and Katz. But that hasn't happened because apparently Bud and Fred are good friends.
                      Last edited by GiambiJuice; 08-02-2012, 04:18 AM.
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                      2. Barry Bonds
                      3. Ty Cobb
                      4. Ted Williams
                      5. Willie Mays
                      6. Alex Rodriguez
                      7. Hank Aaron
                      8. Honus Wagner
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Richard View Post
                        You forced the former Dodgers owner out and now it's time to force the clowns out in Miami (Samson and Luria). The public paid for a great new stadium and now after four months they are dismantling the team. I actually thought business as usual in Miami was over and it's deja vu all over again. We've never had a good owner here in Miami. Say it ain't so.
                        Relax. Breathe. As a baseball fan in South Florida, I can tell you for sure that the sky is not falling.

                        The only true big name to go was Hanley, and he's sucked for the past 2 years. Not worth his contract. Gaby Sanchez was an All Star last year but had a poor second half and was horrid this year. Choate and Mujica are replaceable middle relievers. Infante--moderate talent, but meh. Sanchez could have been a better starter then he is, gave the Fish a no hitter, but injuries have hampered him.

                        Stanton's still here, and if the front office is smart, they'll lock him up soon. The only way Johnson would be dealt would be for a bonafide top prospect or prospects, and that didn't happen, so he's still there. Reyes, LoMo--still there. Ruggiano's a nice little surprise. Boni's a speed demon. Buerhle has been adequate and is still around.

                        At this point, Bell, Nolasco, and Zambrano can be dealt and it wouldn't really make an impact.

                        Sadly, this team underperformed. It was a good team on paper, they brought in three All Stars and they haven't worked out as much as we'd hope. Teams underperform, and they become sellers. Look at the Phillies. No one's crying bloody murder over their selloffs.

                        A fire sale would be the selling off of a good team. That's not happened, since unfortunately the Marlins aren't good this year. A fire sale would be trading Stanton, trading Johnson for mediocre prospects, etc. Again, not happening.

                        Maybe you miss Hanley for what he gave us in 2009, but do you really miss Choate, Mujica or Gaby Sanchez that much?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KevinWI View Post
                          That's from 6 years ago and unfortunately is just as accurate today.
                          Sad, isn't it?
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                          "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein

                          "Royals wear crowns, but Champions Kiss the Ring" ~ Jeremy Affeldt

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                          • #14
                            For some reason I would not be surprised if the Marlins win a World Series next year...

                            They're about due for another random victory right?

                            :P
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