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    They are having a monster season. of course they are helped a little by the weakness of the phillies and marlins (on paper the east division was by far the best in the NL but the phillies with their injuries are struggling and the marlins are not as improved as people thought) but the season is still absolutely fantastic.

    first I thought they were lucky since they seem to have a lot of close games but they have only 2 more wins then their pythagoran expectation.

    anyone knew they had talent and would be improved but most thought they need more time and this is not their year yet. I expected them to come down but 2/3rd through the season it still didn't happen. they still lead all majors in wins and are on pace for nearly 100.

    funny was that their best hitters (morse, zimmerman, werth) were injured for quite a long time (otherwise harper would still be in AAA) and still they didn't collapse.

    but still I can't really believe how good they are. their rotation is really good and their BP absolutely lights out. probably some guys play over their heads and will regress but this is really impressive. I think even a healthy phillies team would not have an easy time against them. what do ou think about the nats?
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    I've watched them a lot vs the Mets this year, and they are for real. Great pitching, good defense, good hitting. They really don't have a glaring weakness. They can go far into the post-season.
    They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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    • #3
      They've done really well so far. Don't forget too that they had to use 6 different cathers this season.
      "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
        They've done really well so far. Don't forget too that they had to use 6 different cathers this season.
        Catching probably is the Nats' weakest position, but they picked up Kurt Suzuki from Oakland a couple of weeks ago. He's not Roy Campanella, but I think he's stabilized the position.
        They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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        • #5
          I said at the beginning of the season that they could make some noise if everything broke right, and as they're something of a secondary team of mine, I couldn't be happier to see them playing the way they are.

          Of course, if they plan to rest Stephen Strasburg for the entire postseason, will that hinder their chances this year?
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          • #6
            their BP is really lights out:

            ERA+
            Clippard 138
            Stammen 157
            Gorzelany 124
            Matheus 161
            Rodriguez 205

            Is there any BP remotely close to this in the majors right now?
            I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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            • #7
              I think they will start to falter when they shut down stras but thats just me. Thats Like Taking Price or CC or Cain or Verlander out of your rotation.
              All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

              A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                I think they will start to falter when they shut down stras but thats just me. Thats Like Taking Price or CC or Cain or Verlander out of your rotation.
                The dirty little secret is that the Nationals also have Gio Gonzalez and the league ERA leader in Jordan Zimmerman. All they'll miss about Strasburg is his brand name. I don't see them missing a step if they go through with their threat of shutting Stephen down.
                Last edited by SamtheBravesFan; 08-20-2012, 09:27 AM.
                46 wins to match last year's total

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dominik View Post
                  their BP is really lights out:

                  ERA+
                  Clippard 138
                  Stammen 157
                  Gorzelany 124
                  Matheus 161
                  Rodriguez 205

                  Is there any BP remotely close to this in the majors right now?
                  Baltimore's has been very good all season as well.
                  "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dominik View Post
                    their BP is really lights out:

                    ERA+
                    Clippard 138
                    Stammen 157
                    Gorzelany 124
                    Matheus 161
                    Rodriguez 205

                    Is there any BP remotely close to this in the majors right now?
                    The Yankees are pretty close:

                    Soriano 259
                    Logan 112
                    Robertson 174
                    Eppley 124
                    Phelps 158
                    Rapada 144

                    Just imagine if Mariano Rivera hadn't gotten injured. There is no better 7-8-9 inning combo in baseball than Robertson, Soriano and Rivera.
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                      Catching probably is the Nats' weakest position, but they picked up Kurt Suzuki from Oakland a couple of weeks ago. He's not Roy Campanella, but I think he's stabilized the position.
                      Or they could move Bryce Harper back to catcher.
                      Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

                      If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UnderPressure View Post
                        Or they could move Bryce Harper back to catcher.
                        That's a clown suggestion, bro!

                        (Sorry, I had to before someone else did...)
                        "I can see how he won twenty-five games. What I don't understand is how he lost five." - Yogi Berra on Sandy Koufax's 1963 season.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tenorman View Post
                          That's a clown suggestion, bro!

                          (Sorry, I had to before someone else did...)
                          Lol Pwned........
                          All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                          A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                          • #14
                            I think they're for real. I picked 'em to win the East, you know.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                              Lol Pwned........
                              Reported for trolling/harassing.
                              Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

                              If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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