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  • What happened during the 9/6 Cubs/Nats game?

    I was at that game. Why did Bo Porter (Nats 3rd base coach) turn around and start screaming at the Cubs dugout?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post
    I was at that game. Why did Bo Porter (Nats 3rd base coach) turn around and start screaming at the Cubs dugout?
    I don't know i also don't know why Bryce took exception to the inside pitch causing the benches to clear.
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    • #3
      It started when Jayson Werth took a hack at a 3-0 pitch in the fifth inning, when the bases were loaded and Washington was up 7-2. That prompted an argument between Bo Porter and manager Jamie Quirk, who thought it was dishonorable or something. Quirk was ejected.

      Then came the call to throw at Harper. And regardless of what they say, you can see by the catcher's reaction to the pitch that it was called for. Harold Reynolds pointed it out on MLB Tonight.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by J W View Post
        It started when Jayson Werth took a hack at a 3-0 pitch in the fifth inning, when the bases were loaded and Washington was up 7-2. That prompted an argument between Bo Porter and manager Jamie Quirk, who thought it was dishonorable or something. Quirk was ejected.

        Then came the call to throw at Harper. And regardless of what they say, you can see by the catcher's reaction to the pitch that it was called for. Harold Reynolds pointed it out on MLB Tonight.

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        Well its kind of the unwriten rule of baseball that you don't swing 3-0 when up big you also don't go around stealing bases when up big.... Clearly the nats have't gotten that memo.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
          Well its kind of the unwriten rule of baseball that you don't swing 3-0 when up big you also don't go around stealing bases when up big.... Clearly the nats have't gotten that memo.
          Did the cubs get the memo that they weren't allowed to try to comeback?

          Teams need to do whatever they think gives them the best chance to win the game, whether that is swinging 3-0 or stealing a base up big.

          Maybe if it were the ninth and a big lead I'd agree, but it was the fifth inning - teams have come back from five down countless times. If the nationals felt they had a chance to put the cubs away, they need to do whatever they feel is necessary

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brooklyn View Post
            Did the cubs get the memo that they weren't allowed to try to comeback?

            Teams need to do whatever they think gives them the best chance to win the game, whether that is swinging 3-0 or stealing a base up big.

            Maybe if it were the ninth and a big lead I'd agree, but it was the fifth inning - teams have come back from five down countless times. If the nationals felt they had a chance to put the cubs away, they need to do whatever they feel is necessary
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            • #7
              I can maybe see why stealing a base might be considered rubbing it in a opponents face. Although I think it's ridiculous teams feel that way. But I don't see a problem at all with swinging on a 3-0 count with a big lead. Is a player automatically suppose to take a pitch on 3-0?

              The Cubs threw at Harper on purpose and if they think what the Nationals did was disrespectful maybe they should take a minute and look at themselves.
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              • #8
                5 run lead in the 5th is a little early to be begging for the mercy rule.

                If it was 13-2, I could see the Cubs maybe getting pissed. I don't know exactly what the cut-off is on these things, but I kind of recognize it when I see it. 7-2 in 5th isn't it.

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                • #9
                  So if Jayson Werth was the one who violated the sacred code, why did the Cubs throw at Harper?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                    So if Jayson Werth was the one who violated the sacred code, why did the Cubs throw at Harper?
                    Because he's the Nationals' most popular player, I guess.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                      Because he's the Nationals' most popular player, I guess.
                      And I have to wonder if the Cubs were angry when he scored on a groundball to the pitcher. Maybe the Cubs thought he made em look bad there too.
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                      "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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                      • #12
                        Reporter to Whitey Herzog: "why do your players keep stealing bases when you have big leads?"
                        Herzog: "I'll stop running with big leads when the other team stops trying to hit homeruns with big leads."

                        Teams come back from 5 run leads all the time. I am sure given the histories of these two inept franchises, that fans of both teams can remember multiple 5-run leads they have seen their heroes give up. Maybe Quick has forgotten. There is no unwritten rule about not wanting to increase a 5-run lead with half of the stinkin' game left.

                        Quick and the Cubs are just embarrased by getting shellacked all the time and the anger is starting to spill over. Of course Werth should be trying to get more than one run in (if possible). But if he swang at a ball on a 3-0 count, he is just stupid, not unsportsmanlike.

                        And if I were Harper, I'd take exception too - getting thrown at when I didn't do anything wrong. Especially when the reason behind it was nonsense.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                          But if he swang at a ball on a 3-0 count, he is just stupid, not unsportsmanlike.
                          Tell that to the 25 guys that hit home runs on 3-0 pitches this year.
                          EDIT: Sorry, I meant home runs, not grand slams.
                          Last edited by ipitch; 09-07-2012, 11:31 AM.

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                          • #14
                            And unlike the Cubs, the Nats are in the middle of the pennant race, which means every game counts. There is no playing nice in the middle of the team's first pennant race, you bury every team if you can.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                              And I have to wonder if the Cubs were angry when he scored on a groundball to the pitcher. Maybe the Cubs thought he made em look bad there too.
                              The Cubs certainly don't need any help to look bad.
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