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  • White Knight
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    My pick is Price, but I just don't want it going to Verlander. I still hold a grudge for him getting the MVP.

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  • GiambiJuice
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    Originally posted by Blackout View Post
    stand by my statement
    You also said Pujols will hit less than 20 homers.

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  • Blackout
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    Originally posted by Blackout View Post
    Rodney is the CYA winner for sure
    stand by my statement

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Double post

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
    Well, I really haven't given my opinion of the quality of AL closers. I've only been disputing posts that suggest the AL starters are having big years.
    Sorry for the use of relative terms. Big enough years for Rodney not to have much of a chance.

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  • Zito75
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    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Rodney has no chance. There is Price, Sale, Verlander, and Weaver competing with the starters in the AL alone. I'd take every one of them over Fernando.
    I"d take King Felix over Rodney, too.

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  • dgarza
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    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
    Better, yes. But not strong.
    Well, I really haven't given my opinion of the quality of AL closers. I've only been disputing posts that suggest the AL starters are having big years.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
    I'm not predicting anything. I'm just saying that the 2012 starters batch is not all that strong, which gives closers a better chance of getting votes.
    Better, yes. But not strong.

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  • dgarza
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    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post

    Are you predicting a win?
    I'm not predicting anything. I'm just saying that the 2012 starters batch is not all that strong, which gives closers a better chance of getting votes.

    But now that you mention it, a 4th place showing for a closer is a strong showing. It shows they were not a write-off.
    Last edited by dgarza; 09-19-2012, 12:51 PM.

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  • Bothrops Atrox
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    Originally posted by dgarza View Post
    They maybe high profile, but they aren't really having big years, at least not compared to other CY types.

    No AL pitcher is likely to get pWAR of 7.0+.
    All AL starters have ERA+ under 160.
    It's possible no AL starter gets 20 Wins.
    No one is really having a huge year.
    The top AL starters in 2012 would be 2nd or 3rd place winners most other seasons.
    Rodney will not win with big names even having good years. I bet Rodney will finish 4th or 5th in the voting.

    Are you predicting a win?

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
    I get that and i said that up above.
    Yes, I see. I saw that yesterday and it didn't register in my brain. Sorry about that.

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  • RaysFan_98
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    Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Rodney has no chance. There is Price, Sale, Verlander, and Weaver competing with the starters in the AL alone. I'd take every one of them over Fernando.
    I get that and i said that up above.

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  • RaysFan_98
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    Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    I don't know if you put any stock in WAR, but Rivera has TEN seasons with a higher WAR than Rodney has now.
    Yes and i know but i was just comparing his ERA Whip numbers and none of em have been close.

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  • dgarza
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    Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
    Right -too many high profile starters in the AL having big years (Verlander, Hernandez, Price).
    They maybe high profile, but they aren't really having big years, at least not compared to other CY types.

    No AL pitcher is likely to get pWAR of 7.0+.
    All AL starters have ERA+ under 160.
    It's possible no AL starter gets 20 Wins.
    No one is really having a huge year.
    The top AL starters in 2012 would be 2nd or 3rd place winners most other seasons.

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  • SamtheBravesFan
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    Rodney has no chance. There is Price, Sale, Verlander, and Weaver competing with the starters in the AL alone. I'd take every one of them over Fernando.

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