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  • Who's the most under-rated position player in the game today?

    My vote goes to Chase Headley.

    Despite playing half his games in a terrible park for hitters and being in a bad lineup, he's got 28 HR and 104 RBI.

    Check out his home/away splits!

    Home .265/.350/.434.
    Away .303/.394/.542.

    If he played in a good hitter's park, he'd be a superstar.
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    I was livid during that '05 draft. After the whole debacle here in Philly with Rolen, and the Phillies without a 3B anywhere in their system, he was my #1 prized position player coming out considering where he was likely to be picked. All I kept reading was how he had good footwork and solid enough arm to be able to play 3B at the ML level. Bat-wise he was a gap-hitter with glimpses of occasional power to put up 20 HRs once in a while. To me, he was a "cheaper" version of Alex Gordon - who went #2 that same season.

    It came to the Phils pick and Headley was waiting to be had. The Phillies did draft a 3B that day. Unfortunately, it was a slow-footed guy slated to play 1B or LF at the ML level with some big ol' holes in his swing. That player was Mike Costanzo, basically the ceiling of Mark Reynolds - and he's proven to not even be nearly that good.

    Total bust pick made for the wrong reasons IMO. Costanzo grew up and went to HS in the Philadelphia area. Back then the Phillies weren't concerned with putting the best product on the field - actually it was the opposite. They were selling out the spectacle that is CBP with a ballgame going on in the background. And because the general fanbase doesn't follow drafts or even the minor leagues for the most part, they actually got approval for picking up a local kid.

    Nothing's been more glaring from that mistake more than simply looking at the production (or lack of it) from the Phillies' 3B position the past few years. And next year doesn't look any more promising.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    • #3
      Marco Scutaro has 72 hits and is batting .353 in the50 games since he joined the Giants

      the Giants announcers think his contributions to the team including defense, clubhouse leadership (especially among the latin players) and clutch hitting is by far the best of any of the traded players since July

      the Giants are 32-19 since Scutaro joined the club (.627) and 23-10 (.697) since losing Melky Cabrera
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      • #4
        Paul Konerko.
        They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
          Marco Scutaro has 72 hits and is batting .353 in the50 games since he joined the Giants

          the Giants announcers think his contributions to the team including defense, clubhouse leadership (especially among the latin players) and clutch hitting is by far the best of any of the traded players since July

          the Giants are 32-19 since Scutaro joined the club (.627) and 23-10 (.697) since losing Melky Cabrera
          Scutaro has been HUGE for the Giants! So many key hits and solid defense. Hopefully he'll play the "Cody Ross role" in the postseason! I like the Giants chances against any NL team in the postseason.
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #6
            Josh Willingham, who didn't even make the AS game this year.
            "Age is a question of mind over matter--if you don't mind, it doesn't matter."
            -Satchel Paige

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rsuriyop View Post
              Josh Willingham, who didn't even make the AS game this year.
              He's got my vote.
              46 wins to match last year's total

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rsuriyop View Post
                Josh Willingham, who didn't even make the AS game this year.
                Good call. Willingham's been a solid hitter for a long time now.

                He's one of 26 players with a 125 OPS+ or better over the last 7 seasons combined. (min. 3,500 PA). The other 25 players on the list have been All-Stars - and most of them multiple times. Only Willingham has not made an All-Star team.
                My top 10 players:

                1. Babe Ruth
                2. Barry Bonds
                3. Ty Cobb
                4. Ted Williams
                5. Willie Mays
                6. Alex Rodriguez
                7. Hank Aaron
                8. Honus Wagner
                9. Lou Gehrig
                10. Mickey Mantle

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                • #9
                  You don't hear much about Ben Zobrist and Allen Craig, although Craig probably shouldn't be playing the OF.
                  "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dude Paskert View Post
                    You don't hear much about Ben Zobrist and Allen Craig, although Craig probably shouldn't be playing the OF.
                    He doesn't when Beltran is healthy.
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                    • #11
                      Joe Mauer doesn't get the respect he deserves as being the 3rd best player of the last 10 years and should have 3 MVPs

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BondsOverBabe View Post
                        Joe Mauer doesn't get the respect he deserves as being the 3rd best player of the last 10 years and should have 3 MVPs
                        He's certainly not "underrated", though. If anything, you're grossly overrating him here.
                        46 wins to match last year's total

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BondsOverBabe View Post
                          Joe Mauer doesn't get the respect he deserves as being the 3rd best player of the last 10 years and should have 3 MVPs
                          Hard for someone with a $184 million contract and one 20-HR season to his name to be underrated.
                          My top 10 players:

                          1. Babe Ruth
                          2. Barry Bonds
                          3. Ty Cobb
                          4. Ted Williams
                          5. Willie Mays
                          6. Alex Rodriguez
                          7. Hank Aaron
                          8. Honus Wagner
                          9. Lou Gehrig
                          10. Mickey Mantle

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                            Good call. Willingham's been a solid hitter for a long time now.

                            He's one of 26 players with a 125 OPS+ or better over the last 7 seasons combined. (min. 3,500 PA). The other 25 players on the list have been All-Stars - and most of them multiple times. Only Willingham has not made an All-Star team.
                            I agree. Willingham may be the most under the radar player today.

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                            • #15
                              He's getting some talk this year, but still probably less than he should get... Johnny Cueto.

                              2010-2012
                              11.3 pWAR - best in majors
                              39 - 21 = .650 - best in majors (500+ IPs)
                              2.96 ERA - best in majors
                              136 ERA+ - best in majors
                              544.2 IPs
                              1.192 WHIP

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