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  • Angel Pagan: 'Ain-Gel' or 'On-Hell'?

    Angel Pagan was referred to as 'Ain-Gel' by Joe Buck and Tim McCarver tonight. MLB Network and the Citi Field PA called him 'On-Hell'. Why is this? My thoughts can be found on my blog:

    http://stevegallanter.wordpress.com

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    Originally posted by Steven Gallanter View Post
    Angel Pagan was referred to as 'Ain-Gel' by Joe Buck and Tim McCarver tonight. MLB Network and the Citi Field PA called him 'On-Hell'. Why is this? My thoughts can be found on my blog:

    http://stevegallanter.wordpress.com
    And is his last name 'Pay-Gin' or 'Pa-Gone'?
    Holding a pitcher accountable for how many runs his team scores is like holding the designated hitter accountable for how many runs his team allows.

    An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.

    Contrary to what most baseball fans claim, a pitched ball which is hit into play is not a strike.

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    • #3
      In NY the announcers always referred to him as Ain-Gel Pa-Gone.

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      • #4
        I always thought it was "An-hell Pa-gone"
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        • #5
          I tried looking up wikipedia or baseball-reference as sometimes they have pronunciations. What I found though was an inconsistent middle name. Strange:

          Ángel Manuel Pagán
          Ángel Anthony Pagán

          They both have the accents in the same place, so his first name should be "ahn-hell". I've only heard the last pronounced "pa-gone".

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          • #6
            either are correct

            My wife's first name starts with a J and in her home country it is pronounced like an "h" but we Americanized it to pronouse the hard "G" sound

            Giants announcers and local broadcast teams often use both (not at the same time)
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            • #7
              Here's the answer from Angel:
              Angel Pagan cleared up a couple of matters Sunday.
              First, the pronunciation of his first name. Is it the Hispanic AHN-hell (he's from Puerto Rico), or the Americanized AIN-jull?
              "Whatever's easier for you," Pagan said with a smile and a shrug. "I'm comfortable with whatever you're comfortable with."
              http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article...on-3538835.php

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ipitch View Post
                Here's the answer from Angel:
                First, the pronunciation of his first name. Is it the Hispanic AHN-hell (he's from Puerto Rico), or the Americanized AIN-jull?
                "Whatever's easier for you," Pagan said with a smile and a shrug. "I'm comfortable with whatever you're comfortable with."
                http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article...on-3538835.php
                Could we then call him "Mell-Key" "Kuh-Brare-Uh" "Joon-Your"?
                Holding a pitcher accountable for how many runs his team scores is like holding the designated hitter accountable for how many runs his team allows.

                An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.

                Contrary to what most baseball fans claim, a pitched ball which is hit into play is not a strike.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BiZmaRK View Post
                  Could we then call him "Mell-Key" "Kuh-Brare-Uh" "Joon-Your"?
                  As long as you're comfortable with it.

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                  • #10
                    Jon Miller always calls him On-hell, but Kruk, Kuip and Flem call him Ain-jel, but Miller always pronounces hispanic names with an hispanic accent. Either way is fine.
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                    • #11
                      For reasons that I hope are obvious, nobody's going to be pronouncing his last name Pay-gin anytime soon...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                        I always thought it was "An-hell Pa-gone"
                        That is the way Vin Scully says it.
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                        • #13
                          Most people, including announcers would pronounce Pedro (Martinez) "PAY-drow", even though it's obviously pronounced "PED-row".

                          It seems the only Latino name that announcers get right is Jesus, which I always find funny--as if pronouncing it the "American" way would be blasphemous.

                          Just once I'd love to hear an announcer pronounce it that way and hear what the audience response would be.

                          Off-topic, but it's interesting how in other countries and cultures it's very common to name a child Mohammed or Jesus, but in American culture it's almost unheard of. Just once I'd like to meet a white dude named Jesus--even better if he were my best friend.

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                          • #14
                            http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/angel

                            you can click on "listen"
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                            • #15
                              Would his name be an oxymoron

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