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  • Did Tim McCarver just say...

    "Pitchers should start wearing catcher's masks when they pitch..."

    Fortunately Fister was OK last evening after being hit in the head by the line drive. But Tim McCarver's suggestion that pitchers wear catcher's masks just doesn't seem to solve the problem of pitcher safety.
    Take a good look (at Jim Tracy), you won't see him for long! (my play on Drew Goodman's homerun call...)

  • #2
    I believe he said helmets, not masks.

    MLB is studying headgear for pitchers.
    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/l...nicasio-091712

    Helmets/masks are becoming more and more common for softball pitchers. Shin guards too.
    Last edited by ipitch; 10-26-2012, 02:05 PM.

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    • #3
      Yes, he said helmets. Even McCarver's not that goofy.
      They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.

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      • #4
        I can;t imagine major league pitchers will wear helmets willingly at first.
        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
          I can;t imagine major league pitchers will wear helmets willingly at first.
          Same with gloves... But eventually....
          "Herman Franks to Sal Yvars to Bobby Thomson. Ralph Branca to Bobby Thomson to Helen Rita... cue Russ Hodges."

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          • #6
            Certainly there would be massive resistance.

            And it would have to be an entirely new design that can't rotate or slip forward as the pitcher completes his motion--otherwise it could increase danger by limiting vision. Helmet or not, the best protection against a batted ball is a glove.

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            • #7
              Buck and McCarver are awful. Buck has said he doesn't even like baseball, and he's an idiot, and brings no enjoyment to the listener. McCarver is equally clueless. They are just death in the booth. Can't stand them.

              First off, these guys (as with most national broadcasters) are clueless when it comes to each team. So far in the World Series, I have listened to Buck rave about Peralta's strong 2nd half. He hit .212 in the second half, and .190 from August on. It was his worst season in 9 years.

              I've listened to McCarver rave about a great changeup from Zito. While they were showing a zoomed in, slow motion replay of Zito with a slider grip. Then they followed the ball as it cut across the plate and in on the RH batter. He continued to rave about the great changeup.

              I rememeber a game a few years ago where he was SPEECHLESS when he found out the ball is faster when it leaves the pitchers hand then it is when it gets to home plate. He didn't know the ball decelerates while it's traveling.

              Their knowledge of each team and the game is so poor, almost as if they just read headlines of articles on ESPN and base everything off that.

              I just despise Joe Buck. His voice. His look. He's got the job every broadcaster dreams of, and he doesn't even like baseball. And you can tell, he has no emotion or energy. He doesn't do his work on either team. He just shows up every October, calls the biggest games of the year, and leaves. He's said he would rather watch ballroom dancing than baseball. So many people would love his job, and could do a much better job.

              It's a shame these guys get to call the Series year after year. When I heard McCarver was a former player I couldn't believe it, because he lacks such basic information about the game.

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              • #8
                He did begin with "helmet" but I believe he added, "Something like the catcher wears..." I wasn't sure if he meant the full hockey mask, or just a helmet. I guess they'd have to have a strap on them. I could see a softball type helmet deployed, but as stated above, there would be some kicking and screaming.

                As far as the booth is concerned I think hey should give the job to Erin Andrews.
                Take a good look (at Jim Tracy), you won't see him for long! (my play on Drew Goodman's homerun call...)

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                • #9
                  At least when the DVDs and BluRays come out, we can replace Joe & Tim with whichever radio team we want (Tigers or Giants).
                  It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DClutch View Post
                    When I heard McCarver was a former player I couldn't believe it, because he lacks such basic information about the game.


                    Tim McCarver played 21 years in majors. He is one of the youngest players ever,catching 8 games for the Cardinals as 17 year old in 1959. He came up to stay in 1963. He was a big part of the Cardinal teams in the 60's. Playing on 2 world Championship and one pennant winning team. He hit .478 in the 1964 World Series and his 3 run HR won game 5. He scored the winning run in the 1966 All-Star Game. In 1967, McCarver was MVP runnerup to teammate Orlando Cepeda. He hit .333 in the 1968 World Series and hit a big 3 run HR in game 3.

                    He later played on division winning teams for the Phillies in 1976-78, as Steve Carlton's "designated catcher." In all McCarver caught 1381 games. He certanly had a fine ML career.
                    This week's Giant

                    #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DClutch View Post
                      Buck and McCarver are awful. Buck has said he doesn't even like baseball, and he's an idiot, and brings no enjoyment to the listener. McCarver is equally clueless. They are just death in the booth. Can't stand them.

                      First off, these guys (as with most national broadcasters) are clueless when it comes to each team. So far in the World Series, I have listened to Buck rave about Peralta's strong 2nd half. He hit .212 in the second half, and .190 from August on. It was his worst season in 9 years.

                      I've listened to McCarver rave about a great changeup from Zito. While they were showing a zoomed in, slow motion replay of Zito with a slider grip. Then they followed the ball as it cut across the plate and in on the RH batter. He continued to rave about the great changeup.

                      I rememeber a game a few years ago where he was SPEECHLESS when he found out the ball is faster when it leaves the pitchers hand then it is when it gets to home plate. He didn't know the ball decelerates while it's traveling.

                      Their knowledge of each team and the game is so poor, almost as if they just read headlines of articles on ESPN and base everything off that.

                      I just despise Joe Buck. His voice. His look. He's got the job every broadcaster dreams of, and he doesn't even like baseball. And you can tell, he has no emotion or energy. He doesn't do his work on either team. He just shows up every October, calls the biggest games of the year, and leaves. He's said he would rather watch ballroom dancing than baseball. So many people would love his job, and could do a much better job.

                      It's a shame these guys get to call the Series year after year. When I heard McCarver was a former player I couldn't believe it, because he lacks such basic information about the game.
                      Joe Buck has said that? Wow. I dont like him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DClutch View Post
                        Buck and McCarver are awful. Buck has said he doesn't even like baseball, and he's an idiot, and brings no enjoyment to the listener. McCarver is equally clueless. They are just death in the booth. Can't stand them.

                        First off, these guys (as with most national broadcasters) are clueless when it comes to each team. So far in the World Series, I have listened to Buck rave about Peralta's strong 2nd half. He hit .212 in the second half, and .190 from August on. It was his worst season in 9 years.

                        I've listened to McCarver rave about a great changeup from Zito. While they were showing a zoomed in, slow motion replay of Zito with a slider grip. Then they followed the ball as it cut across the plate and in on the RH batter. He continued to rave about the great changeup.

                        I rememeber a game a few years ago where he was SPEECHLESS when he found out the ball is faster when it leaves the pitchers hand then it is when it gets to home plate. He didn't know the ball decelerates while it's traveling.

                        Their knowledge of each team and the game is so poor, almost as if they just read headlines of articles on ESPN and base everything off that.

                        I just despise Joe Buck. His voice. His look. He's got the job every broadcaster dreams of, and he doesn't even like baseball. And you can tell, he has no emotion or energy. He doesn't do his work on either team. He just shows up every October, calls the biggest games of the year, and leaves. He's said he would rather watch ballroom dancing than baseball. So many people would love his job, and could do a much better job.

                        It's a shame these guys get to call the Series year after year. When I heard McCarver was a former player I couldn't believe it, because he lacks such basic information about the game.
                        As bad as he is, that I don't agree with. He does know the game but too often makes some dumb remarks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
                          As bad as he is, that I don't agree with. He does know the game but too often makes some dumb remarks.
                          McCarver is knowledgeable, but he's awful at articulating it and tries so hard to sound smart it's insufferable. That's why I never listen to the audio when he's on TV.
                          46 wins to match last year's total

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pere View Post
                            Certainly there would be massive resistance.

                            And it would have to be an entirely new design that can't rotate or slip forward as the pitcher completes his motion--otherwise it could increase danger by limiting vision. Helmet or not, the best protection against a batted ball is a glove.
                            they are already developing some tight fitting light weight helmets for pitchers. I think in a few year the gear will be very good to use. for youth players it will be mandatory in a couple years I think but I think the pros will not want it.

                            However if in a couple of years the helmets are standard in HS ball and then a MLB pitcher dies it will probably come to the pros too. it always takes a tragic incident first. but first the helmets need to get better and thinner so that they don't disturb the pitcher.

                            something like that
                            http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/10/70/24...13/628x471.jpg

                            would be good for the start I think
                            Last edited by dominik; 10-26-2012, 07:06 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                              McCarver is knowledgeable, but he's awful at articulating it and tries so hard to sound smart it's insufferable. That's why I never listen to the audio when he's on TV.
                              True Sam, now and then I hit the TV mute button for a few minutes................or more.

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