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    Finalists for the Gold Gloves have apparently been announced and of the 4 SS in the NL, Brandon Crawford is not among them

    I find that laughable, especially with the 4 that were listed

    If you saw him play in the playoffs or world series (exceptional) - that is how he played the last 4 plus months of the season
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 10-29-2012, 01:08 PM.
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    2012 Gold Glove Award Winners

    2012 Gold Glove Award recipients

    CATCHER
    American League: Matt Wieters
    National League: Yadier Molina

    LEFT FIELD
    American League: Alex Gordon
    National League: Carlos Gonzalez

    CENTER FIELD
    American League: Adam Jones
    National League: Andrew McCutchen

    RIGHT FIELD
    American League: Josh Reddick
    National League: Jason Heyward

    FIRST BASE
    American League: Mark Teixeira
    National League: Adam LaRoche

    SECOND BASE
    American League: Robinson Cano
    National League: Darwin Barney

    SHORTSTOP
    American League: J.J. Hardy
    National League: Jimmy Rollins

    THIRD BASE
    American League: Adrian Beltre
    National League: Chase Headley

    PITCHER
    American League: Jake Peavy, Jeremy Hellickson
    National League: Mark Buehrle

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    • #3
      No Mike Trout?
      The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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      • #4
        How did Helly and Peavy both get one?
        All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

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        • #5
          Funny that all season Adam Jones has said over and over that Austin Jackson is the best CF in baseball and then he wins it over him. Haha

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
            No Mike Trout?
            Rookies rarely get it, no surprise.
            Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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            • #7
              Brandon Crawford was at least the equal of Jimmy Rollins, its OK I suppose the ring matters more.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
                Brandon Crawford was at least the equal of Jimmy Rollins, its OK I suppose the ring matters more.
                Rollins hasn't been a good SS for 4-5 years. Crawfodr should probably have won this easily.
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                • #9
                  Total zone total runs above average

                  the number of runs above or below average the player was worth based on the number of plays made.

                  This number combines the Rtz, Rdp, Rof, Rcatch numbers into a total defensive contribution.

                  Total Zone Runs as C s c a p y
                  1. Wieters (BAL) 9<2012 GG
                  2. Suzuki (OAK) 7
                  3. Perez (KCR) 7
                  4. Mathis (TOR) 5
                  5. Shoppach (BOS) 5

                  Total Zone Runs as 1B s c a p y
                  1. Gonzalez (BOS) 14
                  2. Kotchman (CLE) 9
                  3. Loney (BOS) 4
                  4. Teixeira (NYY) 4<2012 GG
                  5. Moreland (TEX) 4

                  Total Zone Runs as 2B s c a p y
                  1. Pedroia (BOS) 11
                  2. Cano (NYY) 10<2012 GG
                  3. Kipnis (CLE) 10
                  4. Santiago (DET) 8
                  5. Kendrick (LAA) 7

                  Total Zone Runs as 3B s c a p y
                  1. Lawrie (TOR) 14
                  2. Donaldson (OAK) 10
                  3. Moustakas (KCR) 9
                  4. Callaspo (LAA) 7
                  5. Beltre (TEX) 6<2012 GG

                  Total Zone Runs as SS s c a p y
                  1. Hardy (BAL) 21< 2012 GG
                  2. Escobar (TOR) 16
                  3. Pennington (OAK) 14
                  4. Ramirez (CHW) 12
                  5. Cabrera (CLE) 9

                  Total Zone Runs as LF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Murphy (TEX) 12
                  2. Jennings (TBR) 10
                  3. Robinson (SEA) 7
                  4. Viciedo (CHW) 6
                  5. Nava (BOS) 5
                  ? Gordon(KC) 2< 2012 GG

                  Total Zone Runs as CF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Trout (LAA) 13
                  2. Jones (BAL) 13<2012 GG
                  3. Crisp (OAK) 10
                  4. Rasmus (TOR) 10
                  5. Bourjos (LAA) 9

                  Total Zone Runs as RF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Rios (CHW) 22
                  2. Cruz (TEX) 14
                  3. Revere (MIN) 14
                  4. Bautista (TOR) 11
                  5. Mastroianni (MIN) 8
                  ? Reddick (Oak) 7< 2012 GG

                  ----------------------------------------

                  Total Zone Runs as C s c a p y
                  1. Hanigan (CIN) 17
                  2. Molina (STL) 14<2012 GG
                  3. Montero (ARI) 8
                  4. Ruiz (PHI) 8
                  5. Ellis (LAD) 6

                  Total Zone Runs as 1B s c a p y
                  1. LaRoche (WSN) 13< 2012 GG
                  2. Alonso (SDP) 6
                  3. Morrison (MIA) 5
                  4. Sanchez (2TM) 4
                  5. Pill (SFG) 4

                  Total Zone Runs as 2B s c a p y
                  1. Barney (CHC) 16< 2012 GG
                  2. Hill (ARI) 14
                  3. Ellis (LAD) 10
                  4. Espinosa (WSN) 10
                  5. Uggla (ATL) 9

                  Total Zone Runs as 3B s c a p y
                  1. Headley (SDP) 10< 2012 GG
                  2. Freese (STL) 9
                  3. Wright (NYM) 8
                  4. Uribe (LAD) 8
                  5. Ramirez (MIL) 7

                  Total Zone Runs as SS s c a p y
                  1. Simmons (ATL) 16
                  2. Janish (ATL) 11
                  3. Barmes (PIT) 11
                  4. Crawford (SFG) 8
                  5. Espinosa (WSN) 7
                  ? Rollins (Phi) -4 < 2012 GG

                  Total Zone Runs as LF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Prado (ATL) 16
                  2. Ludwick (CIN) 8
                  3. Guzman (SDP) 7
                  4. Blackmon (COL) 7
                  5. Constanza (ATL) 6
                  ? Gonzalez (Col) -9< 2012 GG

                  Total Zone Runs as CF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Bourn (ATL) 38
                  2. Pagan (SFG) 16
                  3. McCutchen (PIT) 13 <2012 GG
                  4. Ruggiano (MIA) 12
                  5. Maybin (SDP) 10

                  Total Zone Runs as RF (s.1954) s c a p y
                  1. Heyward (ATL) 23< 2012 GG
                  2. Stanton (MIA) 11
                  3. Aoki (MIL) 10
                  4. Sappelt (CHC) 8
                  5. Bruce (CIN) 8
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OmartgSS View Post
                    Total zone total runs above average

                    the number of runs above or below average the player was worth based on the number of plays made.

                    This number combines the Rtz, Rdp, Rof, Rcatch numbers into a total defensive contribution.

                    Total Zone Runs as C s c a p y
                    1. Wieters (BAL) 9<2012 GG
                    2. Suzuki (OAK) 7
                    3. Perez (KCR) 7
                    4. Mathis (TOR) 5
                    5. Shoppach (BOS) 5

                    Total Zone Runs as 1B s c a p y
                    1. Gonzalez (BOS) 14
                    2. Kotchman (CLE) 9
                    3. Loney (BOS) 4
                    4. Teixeira (NYY) 4<2012 GG
                    5. Moreland (TEX) 4

                    Total Zone Runs as 2B s c a p y
                    1. Pedroia (BOS) 11
                    2. Cano (NYY) 10<2012 GG
                    3. Kipnis (CLE) 10
                    4. Santiago (DET) 8
                    5. Kendrick (LAA) 7

                    Total Zone Runs as 3B s c a p y
                    1. Lawrie (TOR) 14
                    2. Donaldson (OAK) 10
                    3. Moustakas (KCR) 9
                    4. Callaspo (LAA) 7
                    5. Beltre (TEX) 6<2012 GG

                    Total Zone Runs as SS s c a p y
                    1. Hardy (BAL) 21< 2012 GG
                    2. Escobar (TOR) 16
                    3. Pennington (OAK) 14
                    4. Ramirez (CHW) 12
                    5. Cabrera (CLE) 9

                    Total Zone Runs as LF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Murphy (TEX) 12
                    2. Jennings (TBR) 10
                    3. Robinson (SEA) 7
                    4. Viciedo (CHW) 6
                    5. Nava (BOS) 5
                    ? Gordon(KC) 2< 2012 GG

                    Total Zone Runs as CF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Trout (LAA) 13
                    2. Jones (BAL) 13<2012 GG
                    3. Crisp (OAK) 10
                    4. Rasmus (TOR) 10
                    5. Bourjos (LAA) 9

                    Total Zone Runs as RF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Rios (CHW) 22
                    2. Cruz (TEX) 14
                    3. Revere (MIN) 14
                    4. Bautista (TOR) 11
                    5. Mastroianni (MIN) 8
                    ? Reddick (Oak) 7< 2012 GG

                    ----------------------------------------

                    Total Zone Runs as C s c a p y
                    1. Hanigan (CIN) 17
                    2. Molina (STL) 14<2012 GG
                    3. Montero (ARI) 8
                    4. Ruiz (PHI) 8
                    5. Ellis (LAD) 6

                    Total Zone Runs as 1B s c a p y
                    1. LaRoche (WSN) 13< 2012 GG
                    2. Alonso (SDP) 6
                    3. Morrison (MIA) 5
                    4. Sanchez (2TM) 4
                    5. Pill (SFG) 4

                    Total Zone Runs as 2B s c a p y
                    1. Barney (CHC) 16< 2012 GG
                    2. Hill (ARI) 14
                    3. Ellis (LAD) 10
                    4. Espinosa (WSN) 10
                    5. Uggla (ATL) 9

                    Total Zone Runs as 3B s c a p y
                    1. Headley (SDP) 10< 2012 GG
                    2. Freese (STL) 9
                    3. Wright (NYM) 8
                    4. Uribe (LAD) 8
                    5. Ramirez (MIL) 7

                    Total Zone Runs as SS s c a p y
                    1. Simmons (ATL) 16
                    2. Janish (ATL) 11
                    3. Barmes (PIT) 11
                    4. Crawford (SFG) 8
                    5. Espinosa (WSN) 7
                    ? Rollins (Phi) -4 < 2012 GG

                    Total Zone Runs as LF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Prado (ATL) 16
                    2. Ludwick (CIN) 8
                    3. Guzman (SDP) 7
                    4. Blackmon (COL) 7
                    5. Constanza (ATL) 6
                    ? Gonzalez (Col) -9< 2012 GG

                    Total Zone Runs as CF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Bourn (ATL) 38
                    2. Pagan (SFG) 16
                    3. McCutchen (PIT) 13 <2012 GG
                    4. Ruggiano (MIA) 12
                    5. Maybin (SDP) 10

                    Total Zone Runs as RF (s.1954) s c a p y
                    1. Heyward (ATL) 23< 2012 GG
                    2. Stanton (MIA) 11
                    3. Aoki (MIL) 10
                    4. Sappelt (CHC) 8
                    5. Bruce (CIN) 8
                    Not quite following why that was needed.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                      Not quite following why that was needed.
                      Agreed- we should be showing UZR and Plus/minus as well.
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                      • #12
                        Was Brendan Ryan even if the finals?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                          Not quite following why that was needed.
                          Total zone total runs above average

                          the number of runs above or below average the player was worth based on the number of plays made.

                          This number combines the Rtz, Rdp, Rof, Rcatch numbers into a total defensive contribution.

                          Look at Cargo & Rollins winning a GG with negative numbers and McCutchen winning the GG over Bourn. Then take a gander how most GG winners have a good Rtot.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                            Agreed- we should be showing UZR and Plus/minus as well.
                            Do er, would like to see how it relates for Rollins, Cargo and McCutchen.
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                            • #15
                              I am still not following..... While i think a couple of people got robbed this year i don't follow that all.
                              All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                              A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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