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Not really a surprise Congrats to both the ROY Winners
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All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
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Both are well deserving."(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack
"I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011) -
I'd have gone with Wade Miley, personally. Not that Harper was a poor choice.San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
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Why?.......Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View PostAll it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson MandelaComment
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Well for one, Miley had an excellent season, with a 3.33 ERA/125 ERA+ in 194.2 IP, while striking out 144 and walking just 37 on his way to a 16-11 record, while Harper's .256/.320/.446 line from June 13 on wasn't nearly as impressive to me, though his overall batting line was obviously quite good for a kid his age. Again, not a poor choice, but not better than Miley, if you ask me. I'd place Harper and Frazier in a very close 2nd/3rd.Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostSan Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
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Interesting. I remember Last year when Helly had more or less the same line had a lower ERA but people said it wasn't good enough.Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View PostAll it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson MandelaComment
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Not sure what one has to do with the other, but Miley did strike out more and walk fewer. Hellickson gave up fewer hits, but more home runs. I might have preferred Trumbo last year, if only because he was my preseason pick, but I have/had no issue with Hellickson winning.Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostSan Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein
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And ERA+ was 128 (Hellickson) to 125 (Miley).Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View PostSan Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein
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Its a good sign for the future of MLB that the rookies of the year are both born in the 90's. They could help reinvigorate baseball for young people.Comment
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Yeah, I'd have prefered Miley too, but it does seem as though Harper was given points for succeeding despite his young age and the pressures of being in the public eye. Early in the season I'd have thought Cozart would've been in the mix and the Nats were planning on delaying Harper's debut till '13, boy did that scenario change quickly! I also thought Harper's immaturity would show him up at some point; he was also a reasonably pleasant surprise in that respect, so I look forward to great things from him.
Of course there was no drama whatsoever involved in the AL award.Found in a fortune cookie On Thursday, August 18th, 2005: "Hard words break no bones, Kind words butter no parsnips."
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Wasn't that bound to happen eventually? MLB really needs to hype these two great young players. They could be this generation's Mickey/Willie duo.Originally posted by LI METS FAN View PostStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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I think what he should've said was that two players winning the award when they were both 20-21. I would bet that MLB has the oldest average rookie age in the four major sports. This is also probably why most marquee free agents in baseball are old compared to the ones in other sports.Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostUsing a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.
If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.Comment
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Harper isn't a bad choice by any stretch, primarily because he finished strong, IMO. He handled himself very well throughout the year, as evidenced by the great quip to one reporter: "That's a clown question, bro." Poise, and composure, and it will serve him well over time.
Nevertheless, I will always be biased toward pitchers when forced to choose between a pitcher and a hitter. It is more impressive for a rookie to pitch as well as Wade Miley as opposed to a rookie who hits well. Again, this is just IMO.
At this point, I believe in Bryce Harper. His hype might be worth it after all.Catfish Hunter, RIP. Mark Fidrych, RIP. Skip Caray, RIP. Tony Gwynn, #19, RIP
A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -- Winston Churchill. (Please take note that I've recently become aware of how this quote applies to a certain US president. This is a coincidence, and the quote was first added to this signature too far back to remember when).
Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test first and the lesson later. -- Dan Quisenberry.Comment
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The guy who gave Wilin Rosario a first place vote should have his membership revoked."Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee BrewersComment
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