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  • Miami Owners are Con Artists.....

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/marlins...ves-blame.html

    Good read and spot on Miami owners as well has Bud share responsibility.....
    All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

    A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

  • #2
    Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/marlins...ves-blame.html

    Good read and spot on Miami owners as well has Bud share responsibility.....
    Bud created the benchmark for owners to do this. I'd say he deserves the lion's share of the blame. Not to get political about it, but it's a microcosm for the country as a whole. Create a system that can be abused and people will do it. The difference is baseball has no equivalent "safety net." The fans end up paying one way or another.

    I'd love to see Selig thrown out- and based on a lot of stuff, not just this- but with the amount of money at stake growing and growing, it's never going to happen. I love baseball, but I'm incredibly sad for it.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by toomanyhatz View Post
      Bud created the benchmark for owners to do this. I'd say he deserves the lion's share of the blame. Not to get political about it, but it's a microcosm for the country as a whole. Create a system that can be abused and people will do it. The difference is baseball has no equivalent "safety net." The fans end up paying one way or another.

      I'd love to see Selig thrown out- and based on a lot of stuff, not just this- but with the amount of money at stake growing and growing, it's never going to happen. I love baseball, but I'm incredibly sad for it.
      I think they just destroyed baseball in south Florida Any and all good will that was there is lost.
      All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

      A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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      • #4
        After reading the following article I have to agree that Loria is some piece of work and may have struck a possible death knell for baseball in the Miami area. I would be very surprised if they get many fans to the games this year.
        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...siextra_111412
        "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." ~Humphrey Bogart

        No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference. ~Tommy Lasorda

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        • #5
          Proposal: No All-Star Game for Marlins Park in 2015:
          http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sp...jeffrey/nS6mP/

          I like the idea. Besides, Nationals Park should host before the Marlins.
          The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
            Proposal: No All-Star Game for Marlins Park in 2015:
            http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sp...jeffrey/nS6mP/

            I like the idea. Besides, Nationals Park should host before the Marlins.
            Wish the Rays would get an ASG
            All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

            A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
              Wish the Rays would get an ASG
              In that toilet bowl of a stadium? Let them build a new one first and they'll get an ASG.
              My top 10 players:

              1. Babe Ruth
              2. Barry Bonds
              3. Ty Cobb
              4. Ted Williams
              5. Willie Mays
              6. Alex Rodriguez
              7. Hank Aaron
              8. Honus Wagner
              9. Lou Gehrig
              10. Mickey Mantle

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                In that toilet bowl of a stadium? Let them build a new one first and they'll get an ASG.
                That will never happen now after What Miami owners pulled.
                All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                • #9
                  mlb radio summarized:

                  1) Loria signed a bunch of players last year that on paper looked like he was investing
                  2) the contracts all were void of "no trade" clauses which are quite common in mlb
                  3) pujols in fact would not sign with florida in part because of the refusal to include no trade clauses
                  4) all the contracts were back loaded so they first year was much cheaper than the remaining years
                  5) he duped the city and citizens into a huge cash windfall re the stadium
                  6) he then dumped the contracts and players after paying a very small part of the contract (see #4)
                  7) it is assumed this was his plan all along due to the exclusion of no trade clauses and the back loaded contracts

                  scum of the earth
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                  • #10
                    $34 million tied up in Reyes and Buehrle after the upcoming season? Yeah, I would have gotten those contracts off the books now too. None of these guys dealt had great years. Hell, the only reason Johnson was still around was because the league publicly shamed the Marlins 2 years ago for not investing in their payroll. He would be coming off the books after next season anyways...as is Buck and Bonifacio is straight garbage.

                    We all know why they threw money around wrecklessly last off season.

                    I stand by my comments pertaining to earlier dealings from a previous thread too....

                    Who did they trade at the top of their game? Gabby has given them 2 half seasons worth of good ball. Hanley hasn't done jack since 2010 and that year was a drop off from his 3 previous and for doing jack he was making $15 million per. Infante was having an average year at $4 millions. Anibal wasn't worth his $8 million paycheck(free to move on after the season). Volstad has been a bust, as had Dominguez. Was it worth keeping Choate around when he turns 37 before the season is over and is a free agent after?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                      Wish the Rays would get an ASG
                      Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                      In that toilet bowl of a stadium? Let them build a new one first and they'll get an ASG.
                      Tell that to Cincinnati - Great American opened in 2003 and no All Star Game yet. Home Run Derby in GABP would be a sight to behold!
                      If evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve!

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                      • #12
                        this is a great move for the Marlins because Jose Reyes is due for another injury plagued season and Josh Johnson isn't what he used to be


                        meanwhile they get some nice cuban prospects from Toronto to help draw Cuban fans out to the games

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                        • #13
                          Jeffrey Loria is to Miami baseball as Booth was to Lincoln.
                          The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
                            Jeffrey Loria is to Miami baseball as Booth was to Lincoln.
                            Death.....
                            All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                            A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                              Death.....
                              I thought he was going for moustache.
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