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  • #31
    Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Trout would likely have done it as a 20 year old rookie if not for the late call-up.

    He had 10.8 WAR in 139 games. That's 12.6 per 162.
    So maybe he peaked then?

    There have been ten such seasons at FG:

    Ruth 15.0 (1923)
    Ruth 13.9 (1921)
    Ruth 13.3 (1920)
    Ruth 13.0 (1927)
    Bonds 12.7 (2002)
    Ruth 12.5 (1924)
    Gehrig 12.5 (1927)
    Bonds 12.5 (2001)
    Hornsby 12.5 (1924)
    Ruth 12.0 (1926)

    There have been 56 10 WAR seasons at BBRef, 52 at FG. I can’t do complete searches at BBRef, but AFAIK, this is the list of players with more than one 10 rWAR season:

    Ruth (9)
    Hornsby (6)
    Mays (6)
    Cobb (3)
    Williams (3)
    Mantle (3)
    Bonds (3)
    Wagner (2)
    Gehrig (2)
    Yastrzemski (2)
    Trout (2)

    The fWAR > 10 list is similar:

    Ruth (9)
    Hornsby (6)
    Bonds (5)
    Williams (4)
    Mays (4)
    Cobb (3)
    Mantle (3)
    Wagner (2)
    Gehrig (2)
    Trout (2)

    And this is the list of most times led the league in fWAR, with the longest consecutive streak in ( ):

    Wagner 11 (9)
    Ruth 11 (4)*
    Hornsby 10 (4)
    Mays 9 (4)#
    Bonds 9 (4)#
    Williams 7 (4)
    Mantle 5 (4)#
    Rodriguez 5 (2)#
    Cobb 5 (2)
    Trout 5 (5)

    * - One season’s fWAR totals was a result of pitching as well as hitting.

    # - Led all position players in fWAR in an additional season (two additional seasons in the case of Bonds), but finished behind one or more pitchers in fWAR. LaJoie led all position players in fWAR six times, but only three when pitchers were included.
    Last edited by Stolensingle; 09-30-2016, 12:06 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
      It's difficult to top that, even for him. In order to top what he did this season, we may be talking about a top 5 all time player by the time his career ends. And still, I like Harper better.
      Now this was a dumb post. Have we ever searched our dumbest posts around here. Like something written 4 years ago?

      On the topic. Mike Trout has peaked, the only thing is that his peak is 5 year long so far.
      "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
      George Brett

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
        Now this was a dumb post. Have we ever searched our dumbest posts around here. Like something written 4 years ago?

        On the topic. Mike Trout has peaked, the only thing is that his peak is 5 year long so far.
        So technically, he has plateaued!
        Last edited by brett; 09-30-2016, 07:05 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by brett View Post
          So technically, has he plateaued!
          Exactly!! Wait, what?
          "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
          George Brett

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          • #35
            Actually, several analysts have argued that Trout came into the majors at his peak, and has just maintained that, and his numbers certainly support that. There has also been work suggesting that the traditional view of players getting better from their early 20s to their late 20s may be outdated. Whether because of better earlier development or for other reasons, it seems that other players in the past ten years or so have also been at their peak in their early 20s.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
              Exactly!! Wait, what?
              Plateaued has he!

              -Yoda

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Stolensingle View Post
                So maybe he peaked then?

                There have been ten such seasons at FG:

                Ruth 15.0 (1923)
                Ruth 13.9 (1921)
                Ruth 13.3 (1920)
                Ruth 13.0 (1927)
                Bonds 12.7 (2002)
                Ruth 12.5 (1924)
                Gehrig 12.5 (1927)
                Bonds 12.5 (2001)
                Hornsby 12.5 (1924)
                Ruth 12.0 (1926)

                There have been 56 10 WAR seasons at BBRef, 52 at FG. I can’t do complete searches at BBRef, but AFAIK, this is the list of players with more than one 10 rWAR season:

                Ruth (9)
                Hornsby (6)
                Mays (6)
                Cobb (3)
                Williams (3)
                Mantle (3)
                Bonds (3)
                Wagner (2)
                Gehrig (2)
                Yastrzemski (2)
                Trout (2)

                The fWAR > 10 list is similar:

                Ruth (9)
                Hornsby (6)
                Bonds (5)
                Williams (4)
                Mays (4)
                Cobb (3)
                Mantle (3)
                Wagner (2)
                Gehrig (2)
                Trout (2)

                And this is the list of most times led the league in fWAR, with the longest consecutive streak in ( ):

                Wagner 11 (9)
                Ruth 11 (4)*
                Hornsby 10 (4)
                Mays 9 (4)#
                Bonds 9 (4)#
                Williams 7 (4)
                Mantle 5 (4)#
                Rodriguez 5 (2)#
                Cobb 5 (2)
                Trout 5 (5)

                * - One season’s fWAR totals was a result of pitching as well as hitting.

                # - Led all position players in fWAR in an additional season (two additional seasons in the case of Bonds), but finished behind one or more pitchers in fWAR).
                That Ruth chap appears to have been pretty handy.

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