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    Marvin Miller has died.

    Marvin Miller, an economist and labor leader who became one of the most important figures in baseball history by building the major league players union into a force that revolutionized the game, died on Tuesday at his home in Manhattan. He was 95.

    His death was announced by the Major League Baseball Players Association.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/28/sp...pagewanted=all

    I think he and Curt Flood should be in the Hall of Fame.
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    One man that changed the shape of the game. Should be in HOF.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
      Marvin Miller has died.



      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/28/sp...pagewanted=all



      I think he and Curt Flood should be in the Hall of Fame.
      I think that Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally should be in the HOF with them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
        Marvin Miller has died.



        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/28/sp...pagewanted=all

        I think he and Curt Flood should be in the Hall of Fame.
        If Flood deserves to be in Hall of Fame he should go in with Danny Gardella.

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        • #5
          It's a shame indeed that Marvin Miller was never honored by being inducted into the Hall Of Fame. He probably made a lot of powerful enemies with long memories in his career.
          Last edited by ol' aches and pains; 11-28-2012, 06:53 AM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
            If Flood deserves to be in Hall of Fame he should go in with Danny Gardella.
            Danny Gardella wouldn't be known at all if not for Curt Flood and Marvin miller. Gardella was a marginal MLBer, look up his age and height for the details; who claimed that his time in the Pascual brothers' Mexican League had rendered his contract, and thus the reserve clause; null and void. Gardella settled out of court and signed a confidentiality agreement.


            No, Mr. Gardella does not deserve to be in the HOF but he is a precursor to the Marvin Miller era

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steven Gallanter View Post


              No, Mr. Gardella does not deserve to be in the HOF but he is a precursor to the Marvin Miller era

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              Neither does Curt Flood.

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                Marv4thehall

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                • #9
                  Every single player in the MLB or played in the MLB since free agency, and their family should be attending his funeral.

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                  • #10
                    I totally agree that Marvin Miller belongs in the Hall of Fame.
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                    • #11
                      I think it's brutal that Miller's never been elected. The ridiculous part is that he was on the cusp of getting in prior to the process being changed. He had 63% of the vote while Bowie Kuhn had 18% the same year. After the change (which was top-heavy with ex-owners & GMs who Miller crushed often), Marvin dropped to 25% of the vote while Kuhn shot up to 83% and got in.

                      Last edited by Ben Grimm; 11-28-2012, 09:30 AM.
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                      • #12
                        As Miller pointed out, putting Bowie Kuhn in the Hall was the ultimate insult. Keith Olbermann did a great blogpost on Miller, and Murray Chass wrote a column on his website suggesting another reason they kept Miller out (and they worked hard to keep him out): the fear of what he would say during his induction speech. So, Chass speculated, now there might be more support for putting him in. And what was said above was correct: every mlb player today should be at his funeral.

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                        • #13
                          He certainly helped change the game drastically. For the better, if you're a player, but I'm not so sure I think baseball is a better game with free agency. Not for the fans, at least.

                          On a side note, I just noticed the other day that Donald Fehr is now the head of the NHLPA. Guess that's gonna be one long lockout. Those NHL owners are playing with a big boy, now.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
                            He certainly helped change the game drastically. For the better, if you're a player, but I'm not so sure I think baseball is a better game with free agency. Not for the fans, at least.

                            On a side note, I just noticed the other day that Donald Fehr is now the head of the NHLPA. Guess that's gonna be one long lockout. Those NHL owners are playing with a big boy, now.
                            At least Fehr isn't going to steal from the players like past NHLPA execs had. I think. But his experience isn't impressing the owners one bit.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
                              At least Fehr isn't going to steal from the players like past NHLPA execs had. I think. But his experience isn't impressing the owners one bit.
                              never liked Fehr - in fact consider him one of my biggest dislikes of a sports person ever and that is before he orchestrated another hockey strike/lockout
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