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  • B.J. Upton to sign with Atlanta

    Sources are reporting the deal at 5-years, $75.25 million.

    That's some serious dough for some serious mediocrity.

    Ok, so he's only 28 still, but in 8 big league seasons he has a .255/.336/.422 career line. Over his last four years, and 2,500 plate appearances, that line drops to .242/.316/.420. Defense? UZR shows a steady decline in his abilities, going from 7.8 in 2008 to 6.7, 1.4, 1.4 and then -2.4 last year. Plus/Minus, however, seems to indicate the "drop" wasn't from very high up to begin with.

    +/- 2008: -10
    2009: -1
    2010: -22
    2011: -12
    2012: -4

    He did average 20 HR a year and 69 RBI the last four seasons....ummm....wow? But wait, there were those 38 SB a year he's averaged over the past four seasons. That's got to be worth $15MM a year, right?

    #BravesFail

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/86...es-says-source
    Last edited by Rich the Giants fan; 11-28-2012, 05:50 PM.
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    Over the past four seasons Upton has averaged 135 hits a year and 162 strikeouts.
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    • #3
      Can i cry? I am gonna miss upton bad
      All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

      A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
        Over the past four seasons Upton has averaged 135 hits a year and 162 strikeouts.
        And 452 outs.
        San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!

        "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein

        "Royals wear crowns, but Champions Kiss the Ring" ~ Jeremy Affeldt

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        • #5
          At this point, I could care less whom is playing for them. They clearly don't mind having a high-strikeout lineup, as Upton, Freeman, Uggla and Heyward do lots and lots of it.
          46 wins to match last year's total

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          • #6
            I can see the Braves regretting this move in a few years.
            The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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            • #7
              BJ's D in CF alone makes him great IMHO its simply spectacular. And then an added threat when he gets on base. He may be a streaky hitter but when he gets hot he can carry a team.
              All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

              A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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              • #8
                Upton's not a great player but this deal seems pretty fair. I mean, compare it with Jayson Werth's or Vernon Wells' contracts and it's a bloody bargain.
                My top 10 players:

                1. Babe Ruth
                2. Barry Bonds
                3. Ty Cobb
                4. Ted Williams
                5. Willie Mays
                6. Alex Rodriguez
                7. Hank Aaron
                8. Honus Wagner
                9. Lou Gehrig
                10. Mickey Mantle

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                  Upton's not a great player but this deal seems pretty fair. I mean, compare it with Jayson Werth's or Vernon Wells' contracts and it's a bloody bargain.
                  I disagree with Upton not being good.
                  All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                  A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                    I disagree with Upton not being good.
                    I didn't say he's not good. I said he's not great. There's a big difference.
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #11
                      $15 million for a player who is a downgrade over the three starting OFers they already have? This is a stupid signing no matter how you cut it.

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                      • #12
                        I'm enjoying getting advice on stupid player moves from Mets and Pirates fans.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Los Bravos View Post
                          I'm enjoying getting advice on stupid player moves from Mets and Pirates fans.
                          Right now this Pirate fan can see Pedro Alvarez licking his chops thinking to himself, $20M per easy....with Scott Boras thinking the same.
                          Last edited by Buczilla; 11-28-2012, 09:48 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                            BJ's D in CF alone makes him great IMHO its simply spectacular. And then an added threat when he gets on base. He may be a streaky hitter but when he gets hot he can carry a team.
                            UZR shows him in steady decline and +/- shows him to be below average. His career batting line shows him to be mediocre, at best. Not worth $15MM by any standard, if you ask me.
                            San Francisco Giants, World Series Champions in 2010, 2012, and 2014!!!

                            "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts" ~ Albert Einstein

                            "Royals wear crowns, but Champions Kiss the Ring" ~ Jeremy Affeldt

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rich the Giants fan View Post
                              UZR shows him in steady decline and +/- shows him to be below average. His career batting line shows him to be mediocre, at best. Not worth $15MM by any standard, if you ask me.
                              I don't put much stock in Saber having watched him grow into the player he is i just gotta say i disagree and to the Batting line i think that is in part because the Rays hitting coach (Derrick Shelton) Sucks and if the Braves hitting coach is good and can work with Upton i think BJ will become a 30/30 player with a .290+ BA
                              All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown

                              A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela

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