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  • Dee Gordon... Future CFer?

    I read earlier that the Dodgers may be willing to shop Dee Gordon. He's pretty much a one-dimensional player who relies on his speed - but it's some serious speed.

    I'm wondering if he plays better in the OF as his glove has been a bit shaky so far thru the minors and on up. Does he get the Soriano treatment and get moved to CF eventually? Or even sooner, could a team trade for him with that intent? I've only seen him play a handful of games so I don't know where his defensive skills (if any) lie. If he has issues with ground balls but can cover ground and relay the ball - his arm seemed fairly decent - then he might be a better fit at CF for a team in need of one. It also allows the Dodgers to move Hanley back while picking up something in trade if they are in fact considering a move.
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    Gordon had a rather poor defensive season at SS. Not only was his error rate high he was prone to overthrowing to first when he did cleanly field the ball. And he had a bad trait of trying to chase and catch every ball that went over his head instead of leaving that job to the incoming OF. His speed between bases is an asset but he really needs to clean up his defensive act. I don't know how he would fare as an OF??
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    • #3
      Moving him to 2B makes sense. 1) the Dodgers don't have any prospects at 2B so he won't be blocking anyone and 2) Mark Ellis is 35 and has only one year left in his contract so Gordon should be the successor.

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      • #4
        to play CF in the majors he would at least have to be able to put up a 90-95 OPS+. With his current hitting he not good enough to play the OF.

        If I was the dodgers I would try to develope his IF skills in AAA ball for some more time. don't forget that he started to play baseball at HS while most MLB players start at 5 or 6.
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        • #5
          I agree it'd be nice to see him develop either his SS or 2B skills some more in the minors, but people want to utilize his insane speed skills NOW.

          This makes for a problem.

          Maybe the Dodgers should just hold on to him purely for pinch running purposes?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Lasorda View Post
            Maybe the Dodgers should just hold on to him purely for pinch running purposes?
            Not worth a spot on the 25 man roster

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            • #7
              The idea of turning Dee Gordon into a CF would be a mistake, simply because no team can afford the luxury of a glorified pinch runner at a key defensive spot. This is especially true because Gordon is below average in the field, and it might still be questionable until he is significantly above average in his defensive skills. The Dodgers are a loaded team, but not that loaded.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by abolishthedh View Post
                The idea of turning Dee Gordon into a CF would be a mistake, simply because no team can afford the luxury of a glorified pinch runner at a key defensive spot. This is especially true because Gordon is below average in the field, and it might still be questionable until he is significantly above average in his defensive skills. The Dodgers are a loaded team, but not that loaded.
                Absulutely true. But if he's a CF, he's not a Dodger anymore. He's playing that position for a team like the Indians, Twins, or any other small market that a risk move makes total sense. If he can add that to his "resume", it makes him a more viable trade piece for the Dodgers - unless, of course, they feel he has a future there.
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                • #9
                  He had a 56 OPS+ in 300 AB's last year, and got caught stealing almost 1/3 of the time. More of a liability than an asset - doubt he has the intelligence to play CF anyway... Seems like a typical "4A" player to me.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                    doubt he has the intelligence to play CF anyway...
                    Care to expand on this?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by filihok View Post
                      Care to expand on this?
                      Sure. He doesn't make good decisions. Chasing after balls not in his range, attempting steals at the wrong time... As someone else mentioned, he doesn't have the background & experience. Maybe intelligence is the wrong word - I'll go with tangibles.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                        Sure. He doesn't make good decisions. Chasing after balls not in his range, attempting steals at the wrong time... As someone else mentioned, he doesn't have the background & experience. Maybe intelligence is the wrong word - I'll go with tangibles.
                        He only started playing baseball in HS, so he certainly lacks experience compared to other players

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by filihok View Post
                          He only started playing baseball in HS, so he certainly lacks experience compared to other players
                          Yes. Maybe MLB could adopt the "special pinch runner" rule from the Little League World Series.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                            Yes. Maybe MLB could adopt the "special pinch runner" rule from the Little League World Series.
                            Makes as much sense as a DH


                            Ahem...yeah...so Dee Gordon.

                            He's fast.

                            Tom Gordon's son.

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                            • #15
                              I was totally kidding. To speak your language, dude has negative WAR - wouldn't want him on my team.
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