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  • Dempster to BoSox

    It looks like Dempster will be going Boston - seems like a good fit.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
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  • #2
    He will get knocked around in the AL East...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mr. Lasorda View Post
      He will get knocked around in the AL East...
      I believe that to be a fair prediction.
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      • #4
        I'd imagine the Red Sox are now the overwhelming favorites to win the World Series. This deal really puts them over the top.
        My top 10 players:

        1. Babe Ruth
        2. Barry Bonds
        3. Ty Cobb
        4. Ted Williams
        5. Willie Mays
        6. Alex Rodriguez
        7. Hank Aaron
        8. Honus Wagner
        9. Lou Gehrig
        10. Mickey Mantle

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Lasorda View Post
          He will get knocked around in the AL East...
          Originally posted by DaaBoTownSox View Post
          I believe that to be a fair prediction.
          Based on?

          What historical evidence is there for good pitchers going to the AL East and getting 'knocked around'?

          Well, first, we should define, 'knocked around'. Yes. Pitchers going to the AL from the NL experience an increase of about a .4 runs given up per 9 innings. Anything beyond that?

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          • #6
            Just finished that deal for Joel Hanrahan too.

            Dempster had a bit of an adjustment when he came down here to Texas, but he sure seemed to pitch fine the rest of the way. I think he will be fine.
            "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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            • #7
              Originally posted by filihok View Post
              Based on?

              What historical evidence is there for good pitchers going to the AL East and getting 'knocked around'?

              Well, first, we should define, 'knocked around'. Yes. Pitchers going to the AL from the NL experience an increase of about a .4 runs given up per 9 innings. Anything beyond that?
              In 5 starts vs. the Yankees Dempster is 0-4 with a 7.62 ERA
              My top 10 players:

              1. Babe Ruth
              2. Barry Bonds
              3. Ty Cobb
              4. Ted Williams
              5. Willie Mays
              6. Alex Rodriguez
              7. Hank Aaron
              8. Honus Wagner
              9. Lou Gehrig
              10. Mickey Mantle

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                In 5 starts vs. the Yankees Dempster is 0-4 with a 7.62 ERA
                That's great.

                What historical evidence is there for good starting pitchers going to the AL East and getting 'knocked around'?


                Dempster in his career:
                124 - 124 4.33 ERA 4.0 BB/9, 7.8 K/9

                Dempster in his career vs AL East teams:
                7 - 9 4.71 ERA 3.9 BB/9, 8.0 K/9

                Exactly what we'd expect. An increase of .4 runs per 9 innings. Virtually no change in his walk or strike out rates.

                Where's the evidence of him getting knocked around in the AL East?

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                • #9
                  Actually, I was wrong. Imagine that... I was remembering a graphic during a Dempster start towards the end of the year where it showed his progress after his first 3 starts with the Rangers. He did improve greatly with 5 straight quality starts, but kinda fell apart at the end. In his last 4 starts he was 1-2 with only 1 QS. Two of those starts he didn't get out of the 4th. He beat the Red Sox (6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K) and the Orioles (6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K) but got hammered by the Yankees (6 IP, 9 H, 8 ER, 2 BB, 4 K). He was 4-0 vs the weak AL Central (Indians twice, Royals and Twins), but got ate up by the Angels 3 times and the A's once. The only quality start he had against the AL West was in Seattle.

                  In 12 AL starts he was 7-3 with a 5.09 ERA (2.25 ERA in 16 NL starts) and a 1.435 WHIP. Averaged 9.7 H/9 and 9.1 K/9 in the AL. Just wanted to throw out his Ranger stats after I made that last ridiculous comment. He is in his mid 30s, but I think he is a talented and smart pitcher who can do well.
                  "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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