R.A. to Jays!!! Good or Bad???

[Allie Fox]

Joel Sherman - NY Post

It looks like the Mets/Dickey saga of 2012 may finally come to a close. Are Mets fans really THAT concerned that Dickey will be gone next year?

As a Met fan myself I never had full confidence in him even this past season. Although it was exciting to see him succeed, I held my breath everytime he was sceduled to pitch with the thought that he might fall off the cliff. I feel like 2012 was a "lightning in a bottle" season for him and probably won't repeated.

I'm satisfied with the package the Mets might be getting in this deal (although I don't profess to be anywhere near the expert some of you guys are). It will still be a few years before we can really expect any return to glory anyway.

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm a Mets fan, and I'm not happy with this at all.

What confuses me is that R.A. repeatedly said he didn't want to leave the Mets. So why didn't he just tell his agent to accept whatever offer the Mets made to him?

[RaysFan_98]

Why in the hell did the mets let him go?

[metfan13]

Because they won 74 with him, they can lose without him. Sounds like they are getting a couple of high level prospects. That's the future of the team. In 2 years they could have a rotation with Harvey-Wheeler-Syndegaard-Niese being caught by d'Arnaud. That's a future.

[Cowtipper]

The Mets also had a really bright future with Isringhausen, Wilson, Pulsipher and Robert Person once, too.

[Captain Cold Nose]

The Mets also had a really bright future with Isringhausen, Wilson, Pulsipher and Robert Person once, too.

How much of a future does a 37-year-old knuckle baller going to have anywhere? At the money Dickey is wanting plus as much a guarantee of continued success as those Mets prospects twenty years ago, I don't see this move necessarily as a bad thing.

[metfan13]

The Mets also had a really bright future with Isringhausen, Wilson, Pulsipher and Robert Person once, too.

And they had one with Gooden, Darling, Fernandez

What they don't have is a really bright future with a 38 year old pitcher, no catcher, no outfield. Time to build the next winner, not plod along losing 90

[bluesky5]

And they had one with Gooden, Darling, Fernandez

What they don't have is a really bright future with a 38 year old pitcher, no catcher, no outfield. Time to build the next winner, not plod along losing 90

I guess not all Met fans are masochists.

[Cowtipper]

I don't disagree, it's just prospects are such an enormous gamble all the time. Someone needs to invent a crystal ball so we can see which ones are actually going to pan out.

[metfan13]

I don't disagree, it's just prospects are such an enormous gamble all the time. Someone needs to invent a crystal ball so we can see which ones are actually going to pan out.

If the owners aren't going to spend then getting prospects is the way to go. d'Arnaud is one of the top prosepcts in baseball and close to the majors. Syndergaard is much more of a risk but gives you another top level pitching spec in case something happens with Harvey-Wheeler if we want to take the pessimistic look. OR Syndergaard could be used to get a much needed outfielder.

[ol' aches and pains]

I hope this Travis d'Arnaud is ready for the big leagues. The Mets don't have a catcher on the roster who could start for any other MLB team. If you trade the Cy Young winner, you'd better be getting some quality players in return.

[bluesky5]

I hope this Travis d'Arnaud is ready for the big leagues. The Mets don't have a catcher on the roster who could start for any other MLB team. If you trade the Cy Young winner, you'd better be getting some quality players in return.

Dickey isn't your typical Cy Young winner though. He is 38 with one really good season, one above average season and one mediocre one. All in the last three years. He got 1/3 of his career wins last season. The Mets made out huge.

For the record I think he deserved the Cy Young.

[m8644]

speaking as a Mets fan, I could not love this trade more.

No offense to Dickey, love the guy, such an amazing story. But this team is very quietly building an extremely talented young core of players......now all we need is an owner who will surround them with the final pieces to the puzzle.

[dominik]

Because they won 74 with him, they can lose without him. Sounds like they are getting a couple of high level prospects. That's the future of the team. In 2 years they could have a rotation with Harvey-Wheeler-Syndegaard-Niese being caught by d'Arnaud. That's a future.

yes. the mets won't win in 2013 or 2014 anyway even with dickey repeating 2012 (a big if at age 37). they have to try a rebuild and then hope that their owner has to sell or finds some money.

of course the point that a lot of (most) prospects are not making it is correct (in scouting reports you always read "like Arod" or "mauer with power" but 5 years later they are often pinch hitters) but the mets have to take the chance if they want to win anytime "soon" (which is probably still 3-4 years removed at least).

[ol' aches and pains]

Dickey isn't your typical Cy Young winner though. He is 38 with one really good season, one above average season and one mediocre one. All in the last three years. He got 1/3 of his career wins last season. The Mets made out huge.

For the record I think he deserved the Cy Young.

Hoyt Wilhelm, Charlie Hough, The Niekros, and Tim Wakefield all pitched effectively well into their 40's, so I don't believe Dickey's age is an issue.

...But this team is very quietly building an extremely talented young core of players......now all we need is an owner who will surround them with the final pieces to the puzzle.

Yes, very quietly indeed. Those "final pieces of the puzzle" would include three starting outfielders (they have none) and some reliable relief pitching (they don't have much of that. either). I agree a new owner would be a good start, but that's not going to happen. I know you have to give quality to get quality, but this team is not going to be much fun to watch next year, unless they do a lot more this off-season (also not going to happen).