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  • #61
    Any NFL game will outdraw almost any MLB game. The one exception might be a World Series game 7 going up against SNF or MNF. Even then, it would probably take something like the Yankees vs Cubs to be able to beat out the NFL.

    In New York (or tri-state area), if only Jet and Yankee fans were allowed to watch TV that Monday night, I'd bet the Yankees would easily out rate the Jets, but there are many more casual fans who will choose football over baseball anytime.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
      Listen, nobody was more shocked about those numbers than me when someone argued them to me last fall. Baseball is my favorite sport and I prefer it and watch it more that football. But I've come to terms with the fact that the NFL rules the sports landscape pretty much everywhere in the US now including New York City.

      Is that really going to be your argument, that a football game outdrew a Yankees postseason game locally because of promotion? The Yankees need promotion now? I'm sorry but baseball is in decline in terms of popularity and MLB is losing the youngest generations. Attribute that to promotion or whatever you want, the end result is the same
      Its not about football vs baseball. If you switched networks the #s would be the same. The better promoted sport on ESPN is going to rate higher than the sport on TBS.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
        Apparently the NFL is indeed now more popular than the Yankees, in New York itself. That's the only conclusion one can draw from same night ratings. More people would rather watch a train wreck (the Jets) playing football than they would postseason Yankees baseball. That's not my opinion, that's the facts of what people were watching in metro New York
        As a Yankee/Jet fan, I must say, you cannot miss a single football game with the short schedule.
        "Have faith in the Yankees my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."-Ernest Hemingway

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        • #64
          Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
          Here are the numbers for that aforementioned Monday night game:

          Jets beat Yankees in ratings in New York and nationally
          http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/backpa...8BW0NAarR4EfHN
          No one can deny the TV ratings. But that doesn't mean the Jets are more popular than the Yankees. Football translates better in a televised format. Football draws more viewers because of the gambling element. That's established. It doesn't mean anything in regards to individiaul team popularity.
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          • #65
            There is more competition and Hate between Mets Yankees than Giants-Jets

            Mets fans despise the Yankees and many times wont even root or watch the Yankees.

            Yankee fans somewhat hate the Mets , but to a lesser degree since they are the dominent team.

            Until recently there wasnt much competiton between the Jets and Giants so there was much less hate between the team and fans of one team will watch the other.

            There is also less hate for the Giants than probably any other team in NYC and its becoming possible and maybe likely that the Giants will become the #1 team in NY (even surpassing the Yankees)

            The hate probably contributes to lower TV ratings

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
              No one can deny the TV ratings. But that doesn't mean the Jets are more popular than the Yankees. Football translates better in a televised format. Football draws more viewers because of the gambling element. That's established. It doesn't mean anything in regards to individiaul team popularity.
              You are correct sir, but the topic of the thread is about markets where baseball is #1. The Yankees are a more popular individual team than probably the Giants and certainly the Jets, but as a sport my point was that in New York (where the Yankees do rule), baseball is no longer #1 as a sport in terms of popular interest, and the numbers back that up

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              • #67
                Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
                You are correct sir, but the topic of the thread is about markets where baseball is #1. The Yankees are a more popular individual team than probably the Giants and certainly the Jets, but as a sport my point was that in New York (where the Yankees do rule), baseball is no longer #1 as a sport in terms of popular interest, and the numbers back that up
                And not just New York, I'm sure. But I think the OP was asking more than that. Popular interest and what's ingrained in the culture can be different. Someone earlier made the point about more NBA players from NYC than NFL players. I can believe that. Is there an equivalent to the pickup games at Rucker Park in either baseball or football. I think this is deeeper than just TV ratings, which, to me, is the most passive gauge of activity interest there is.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Francoeurstein View Post
                  Living in Atlanta, I would have to say I know slightly more Braves fans than Falcons fans.

                  We love our Braves.
                  Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                  I've been trying to figure out who is best in Atlanta: the Braves or Falcons. The Hawks, as far as I can tell, really haven't been that popular since the days of Dikembe Mutumbo.

                  My guess is that the Falcons are the #1 team.
                  Originally posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
                  Atlanta's a fickle sports town, they get behind who's most successful at the moment. That's the Falcons.
                  Fickle town is right. Fickle state would be most accurate. However you guys are completely discounting Georgia and Georgia Tech football. There is not a professional team in the state that can compete with these and other college football programs (especially the "Dawgs"). High school football is even higher on the food chain.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Allie Fox View Post
                    Fickle town is right. Fickle state would be most accurate. However you guys are completely discounting Georgia and Georgia Tech football. There is not a professional team in the state that can compete with these and other college football programs (especially the "Dawgs"). High school football is even higher on the food chain.
                    I'm not discounting that, I lived in Georgia. Like Texas, high school football is a slight notch below church in most places. UGA's definitely the king of football in Georgia; the Yellow Jackets (whom I'm a fan of) are more like the kid brother that can barely keep up with the big boys.
                    46 wins to match last year's total

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
                      You are correct sir, but the topic of the thread is about markets where baseball is #1. The Yankees are a more popular individual team than probably the Giants and certainly the Jets, but as a sport my point was that in New York (where the Yankees do rule), baseball is no longer #1 as a sport in terms of popular interest, and the numbers back that up
                      As long as the Yankees are relevant Baseball will be #1 in NYC. Jets and Giants are bigger in Jersey than they are in NYC.

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                      • #71
                        Baseball in the tri-state area is a 365 day sport. The rest of the sports are more seasonal. NFL is strong during the season, but baseball talk is usually a close second (about the same during October), and once the NFL season is over, it reverts back to heavy baseball talk.

                        As for the TV, it's not a match. Football is better on TV then baseball. The season has 10x less games, and teams only play once a week. Also, the amount of fantasy players and gamblers that watch the NFL is much, much more than any sport in the US. The product the NFL puts on television is as good as it gets, enough so that some teams are worried about attendance because of the high quality the games are shown in, and the ability to watch multiple games all day on TV.

                        Baseball is regional and it will probably never be where the NFL is nationally. I do agree that the younger generation is moving more towards football then baseball. Hopefully that changes some day because if not, the NFL will definitely rule the tri-state area in the near future.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Yankeefan3783 View Post
                          Baseball in the tri-state area is a 365 day sport. The rest of the sports are more seasonal. NFL is strong during the season, but baseball talk is usually a close second (about the same during October), and once the NFL season is over, it reverts back to heavy baseball talk.

                          As for the TV, it's not a match. Football is better on TV then baseball. The season has 10x less games, and teams only play once a week. Also, the amount of fantasy players and gamblers that watch the NFL is much, much more than any sport in the US. The product the NFL puts on television is as good as it gets, enough so that some teams are worried about attendance because of the high quality the games are shown in, and the ability to watch multiple games all day on TV.

                          Baseball is regional and it will probably never be where the NFL is nationally. I do agree that the younger generation is moving more towards football then baseball. Hopefully that changes some day because if not, the NFL will definitely rule the tri-state area in the near future.
                          What would it take to get the younger generation back to baseball I wonder.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Zoltan View Post
                            What would it take to get the younger generation back to baseball I wonder.
                            Getting rid of computers, iPhones and video games, it seems.

                            Seriously, I don't think there's much more they can do besides market the sport. Football will end up hurting itself because of their freaking out over concussions and other injuries. If the parents don't want their little babies getting concussions, they'll be forced into baseball and basketball.
                            46 wins to match last year's total

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                            • #74
                              I think the lack of college baseball scholarships and college baseballs minmal stature hurts baseball. Baseball players are anonymous from little league until the majors, unlike football and basketball.

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