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  • Reds moving Aroldis Chapman to starting rotation.... Smart Move or Way too Risky?

    Personally I think this is not a smart move. I realize that starters have more value than closers, but Chapman has the potential to be one of the all-time great closers.....seems like a risky move to make

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb

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    I don't know I think he's got the arm for a starter.
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    • #3
      he is built to close I think. Throws really hard, but only needed to do so for maybe an inning or so.

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      • #4
        Eh, IMO, it could be a very risky move. Look at what happened to recent reliever-to-starter conversions the past couple years: Daniel Bard, Neftali Feliz, Phil Coke (for a third of a season). I know I'm missing a few, but the only one that I can think of that has actually paid off so far is Chris Sale.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 3and2Fastball View Post
          Personally I think this is not a smart move. I realize that starters have more value than closers, but Chapman has the potential to be one of the all-time great closers.....seems like a risky move to make

          http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
          well if you have the choice between 60 innings and 190+ innings it's pretty obvious what is more valuable. and if he doesn't work you can easily move him back to the pen.I don't see a big risk here, you try it and if it doesn't work no big deal (unless he gets hurt).
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          • #6
            Originally posted by dishnet34 View Post
            the only one that I can think of that has actually paid off so far is Chris Sale.
            Derek Lowe kinda recently as well.

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            • #7
              It's a no-brainer. If Chapman can start. He should start.
              Last edited by filihok; 01-19-2013, 12:27 PM.

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              • #8
                Bold prediction: Chapman will be on the DL and having Tommy John surgery by July 1st.

                I think this a terrible decision by the Reds. Chapman is basically a one pitch pitcher.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zoltan View Post
                  I think this a terrible decision by the Reds. Chapman is basically a one pitch pitcher.
                  You've got to give him credit for at least two pitches

                  He throws a slider about 14% of the time

                  http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...on=P#pitchtype

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zoltan View Post
                    Bold prediction: Chapman will be on the DL and having Tommy John surgery by July 1st.

                    I think this a terrible decision by the Reds. Chapman is basically a one pitch pitcher.
                    Agreed he also won't have that 100+ MPH Fastball pitching in the Rotation coming out of the pen he can come in and let it lose.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by filihok View Post
                      You've got to give him credit for at least two pitches

                      He throws a slider about 14% of the time

                      http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...on=P#pitchtype
                      He has a great Slider but he relies to heavily on his FB And a FB that high will only keep guys guessing so long and when he is in the Rotation he will start getting hit hard.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                        He has a great Slider but he relies to heavily on his FB And a FB that high will only keep guys guessing so long and when he is in the Rotation he will start getting hit hard.
                        Last year
                        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=3,d
                        Bartolo Colon, Justin Masterson and Ross Detwiler all threw their fastball over 80% of the time. None of their fastballs are nearly as good as Chapman's

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by filihok View Post
                          Last year
                          http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=3,d
                          Bartolo Colon, Justin Masterson and Ross Detwiler all threw their fastball over 80% of the time. None of their fastballs are nearly as good as Chapman's
                          Colon gave up 5 HR's against the Rays alone in one game but keep thinking that...............
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
                            I don't know I think he's got the arm for a starter.
                            I don't think so either... TJ is in his future.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
                              Colon gave up 5 HR's against the Rays alone in one game but keep thinking that...............
                              Keep thinking what?

                              Justin Verlander gave up 8 earned runs in less than 6 innings against the Royals.

                              Sometimes good pitchers get hit.

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