Announcement

Collapse

Updated Baseball Fever Policy

Baseball Fever Policy

I. Purpose of this announcement:

This announcement describes the policies pertaining to the operation of Baseball Fever.

Baseball Fever is a moderated baseball message board which encourages and facilitates research and information exchange among fans of our national pastime. The intent of the Baseball Fever Policy is to ensure that Baseball Fever remains an extremely high quality, extremely low "noise" environment.

Baseball Fever is administrated by three principal administrators:
webmaster - Baseball Fever Owner
The Commissioner - Baseball Fever Administrator
Macker - Baseball Fever Administrator

And a group of forum specific super moderators. The role of the moderator is to keep Baseball Fever smoothly and to screen posts for compliance with our policy. The moderators are ALL volunteer positions, so please be patient and understanding of any delays you might experience in correspondence.

II. Comments about our policy:

Any suggestions on this policy may be made directly to the webmaster.

III. Acknowledgments:

This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

IV. Requirements for participation on Baseball Fever:

Participation on Baseball Fever is available to all baseball fans with a valid email address, as verified by the forum's automated system, which then in turn creates a single validated account. Multiple accounts by a single user are prohibited.

By registering, you agree to adhere to the policies outlined in this document and to conduct yourself accordingly. Abuse of the forum, by repeated failure to abide by these policies, will result in your access being blocked to the forum entirely.

V. Baseball Fever Netiquette:

Participants at Baseball Fever are required to adhere to these principles, which are outlined in this section.
a. All posts to Baseball Fever should be written in clear, concise English, with proper grammar and accurate spelling. The use of abbreviations should be kept to a minimum; when abbreviation is necessary, they should be either well-known (such as etc.), or explained on their first use in your post.

b. Conciseness is a key attribute of a good post.

c. Quote only the portion of a post to which you are responding.

d. Standard capitalization and punctuation make a large difference in the readability of a post. TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS is considered to be "shouting"; it is a good practice to limit use of all capitals to words which you wish to emphasize.

e. It is our policy NOT to transmit any defamatory or illegal materials.

f. Personal attacks of any type against Baseball Fever readers will not be tolerated. In these instances the post will be copied by a moderator and/or administrator, deleted from the site, then sent to the member who made the personal attack via a Private Message (PM) along with a single warning. Members who choose to not listen and continue personal attacks will be banned from the site.

g. It is important to remember that many contextual clues available in face-to-face discussion, such as tone of voice and facial expression, are lost in the electronic forum. As a poster, try to be alert for phrasing that might be misinterpreted by your audience to be offensive; as a reader, remember to give the benefit of the doubt and not to take umbrage too easily. There are many instances in which a particular choice of words or phrasing can come across as being a personal attack where none was intended.

h. The netiquette described above (a-g) often uses the term "posts", but applies equally to Private Messages.

VI. Baseball Fever User Signature Policy

A signature is a piece of text that some members may care to have inserted at the end of ALL of their posts, a little like the closing of a letter. You can set and / or change your signature by editing your profile in the UserCP. Since it is visible on ALL your posts, the following policy must be adhered to:

Signature Composition
Font size limit: No larger than size 2 (This policy is a size 2)
Style: Bold and italics are permissible
Character limit: No more than 500 total characters
Lines: No more than 4 lines
Colors: Most colors are permissible, but those which are hard to discern against the gray background (yellow, white, pale gray) should be avoided
Images/Graphics: Allowed, but nothing larger than 20k and Content rules must be followed

Signature Content
No advertising is permitted
Nothing political or religious
Nothing obscene, vulgar, defamatory or derogatory
Links to personal blogs/websites are permissible - with the webmaster's written consent
A Link to your Baseball Fever Blog does not require written consent and is recommended
Quotes must be attributed. Non-baseball quotes are permissible as long as they are not religious or political

Please adhere to these rules when you create your signature. Failure to do so will result in a request to comply by a moderator. If you do not comply within a reasonable amount of time, the signature will be removed and / or edited by an Administrator. Baseball Fever reserves the right to edit and / or remove any or all of your signature line at any time without contacting the account holder.

VII. Appropriate and inappropriate topics for Baseball Fever:

Most concisely, the test for whether a post is appropriate for Baseball Fever is: "Does this message discuss our national pastime in an interesting manner?" This post can be direct or indirect: posing a question, asking for assistance, providing raw data or citations, or discussing and constructively critiquing existing posts. In general, a broad interpretation of "baseball related" is used.

Baseball Fever is not a promotional environment. Advertising of products, web sites, etc., whether for profit or not-for-profit, is not permitted. At the webmaster's discretion, brief one-time announcements for products or services of legitimate baseball interest and usefulness may be allowed. If advertising is posted to the site it will be copied by a moderator and/or administrator, deleted from the site, then sent to the member who made the post via a Private Message (PM) along with a single warning. Members who choose to not listen and continue advertising will be banned from the site. If the advertising is spam-related, pornography-based, or a "visit-my-site" type post / private message, no warning at all will be provided, and the member will be banned immediately without a warning.

It is considered appropriate to post a URL to a page which specifically and directly answers a question posted on the list (for example, it would be permissible to post a link to a page containing home-road splits, even on a site which has advertising or other commercial content; however, it would not be appropriate to post the URL of the main page of the site). The site reserves the right to limit the frequency of such announcements by any individual or group.

In keeping with our test for a proper topic, posting to Baseball Fever should be treated as if you truly do care. This includes posting information that is, to the best of your knowledge, complete and accurate at the time you post. Any errors or ambiguities you catch later should be acknowledged and corrected in the thread, since Baseball Fever is sometimes considered to be a valuable reference for research information.

VIII. Role of the moderator:

When a post is submitted to Baseball Fever, it is forwarded by the server automatically and seen immediately. The moderator may:
a. Leave the thread exactly like it was submitted. This is the case 95% of the time.

b. Immediately delete the thread as inappropriate for Baseball Fever. Examples include advertising, personal attacks, or spam. This is the case 1% of the time.

c. Move the thread. If a member makes a post about the Marlins in the Yankees forum it will be moved to the appropriate forum. This is the case 3% of the time.

d. Edit the message due to an inappropriate item. This is the case 1% of the time. There have been new users who will make a wonderful post, then add to their signature line (where your name / handle appears) a tagline that is a pure advertisement. This tagline will be removed, a note will be left in the message so he/she is aware of the edit, and personal contact will be made to the poster telling them what has been edited and what actions need to be taken to prevent further edits.

The moderators perform no checks on posts to verify factual or logical accuracy. While he/she may point out gross errors in factual data in replies to the thread, the moderator does not act as an "accuracy" editor. Also moderation is not a vehicle for censorship of individuals and/or opinions, and the moderator's decisions should not be taken personally.

IX. Legal aspects of participation in Baseball Fever:

By submitting a post to Baseball Fever, you grant Baseball Fever permission to distribute your message to the forum. Other rights pertaining to the post remain with the ORIGINAL author, and you may not redistribute or retransmit any posts by any others, in whole or in part, without the express consent of the original author.

The messages appearing on Baseball Fever contain the opinions and views of their respective authors and are not necessarily those of Baseball Fever, or of the Baseball Almanac family of sites.

Sincerely,

Sean Holtz, Webmaster of Baseball Almanac & Baseball Fever
www.baseball-almanac.com | www.baseball-fever.com
"Baseball Almanac: Sharing Baseball. Sharing History."
See more
See less

1880-1882 Chicago White Stockings

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 1880-1882 Chicago White Stockings

    I had never bothered to put together the 1880-1882 White Stockings, mainly because they only really had 2 pitchers. Larry Corcoran and Fred Goldsmith. But I figured out how to make it work. I gave the team two copies of Corcoran and two copies of Goldsmith, so they could have a starting rotation. After the season I just have to add the stats together. They have a third pitcher, Tom Poorman, who is the reliever. Poorman pitched 15 innings for the 1880 team. They also used some of the position players (Kelly Williamson, Burns) on the mound occasionally.

    I ran a couple of seasons, and it works well. I ran them 162 games head to head against the 1885-1888 Browns. They should be pretty even with the Browns, as they met twice later on in the world series, with one series a tie and the Browns winning the other series.

    Here are the results of the latest sim:

    A high scoring series with St. Louis averaging 5 runs a game and Chicago 4.9.
    .
    Year Team W L Pct GB L10 Strk Recent RF RA Mgn Mgc
    1885-88 St. Louis Browns 84 78 .519 - 4-6 W2 wwlllllwwl 811 795 16 0
    1880-82 Chicago White Stockings 78 84 .481 6 6-4 L2 llwwwwwllw 795 811 -16
    .
    .

    LF Abner Dalrymple (.328/.371/.524) with a sensational season, 43 doubles, 11 triples, 22 HRs, 99 runs and 108 RBIs. CF George Gore (.326/.410/.504) even better as the leadoff hitter with 21 HRs and 131 runs scored. Cleanup hitter Cap Anson at .310 with 25 HRs, 110 runs and 109 RBIs. Anson also with 17 stolen bases in 22 attempts.
    .
    . DMB team batting -- 1880-82 Chicago White Stockings
    Primary
    S Name P AVG OBP SPC G AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI BB K HBP IW SB CS
    Dalrymple,A* lf .328 .371 .524 162 670 220 43 11 22 99 108 45 65 3 0 6 3
    Gore* cf .326 .410 .504 162 657 214 34 10 21 131 78 90 53 4 2 22 12
    Nicol rf .321 .369 .423 31 78 25 5 0 1 17 9 6 10 0 0 13 2
    Anson 1b .310 .379 .509 162 625 194 31 9 25 110 109 71 56 3 1 17 5
    Corcoran* sp .259 .299 .368 91 247 64 8 2 5 30 24 13 38 1 0 0 0
    Kelly,K rf .299 .346 .471 159 649 194 41 7 19 95 93 42 78 6 0 19 8
    Quest 2b .274 .300 .388 161 609 167 27 9 8 66 75 20 73 5 1 6 0
    Poorman* rf .255 .328 .473 95 55 14 4 1 2 4 9 6 6 0 0 1 0
    Beals 2b .250 .280 .375 18 24 6 1 1 0 4 6 1 3 0 0 0 0
    Williamson,N 3b .246 .320 .438 162 621 153 25 11 24 84 104 66 100 4 0 7 3
    Burns,Tom 3b .244 .280 .377 161 632 154 27 12 11 70 77 30 92 3 1 9 6
    Goldsmith-1 sp .219 .257 .386 81 215 47 10 1 8 26 25 7 44 4 0 0 0
    Flint c .217 .223 .322 150 575 125 18 6 10 59 51 4 130 1 1 0 0
    Total .279 .328 .438 162 5654 1577 274 80 156 795 765 401 748 34 6 100 39
    .
    .

    Tip O'Neill (.311/.369/.542) with 35 bombs and 109 RBIs. Series MVP Bob Caruthers (.286/.399/.527) with 22 XBH and 97 RBIs. See below for his pitching stats. Arlie Latham with 56 stolen bases and 106 runs scored. Kid Gleason and manager Charlie Comiskey each with 20 HRs.
    .
    . DMB team batting -- 1885-88 St. Louis Browns
    Primary
    S Name P AVG OBP SPC G AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI BB K HBP IW SB CS
    Herr,J ss .455 .467 .659 29 44 20 7 1 0 7 4 1 6 0 0 0 1
    McGarr 3b .450 .476 .600 6 20 9 0 0 1 2 7 1 3 0 0 2 0
    O'Neill,T lf .311 .369 .542 161 650 202 27 9 35 106 109 59 87 5 1 13 6
    Boyle c .292 .343 .469 31 96 28 7 2 2 12 17 6 12 2 0 1 1
    Caruthers* sp .286 .399 .527 154 497 142 28 13 22 87 97 97 50 0 8 16 6
    Barkley 2b .274 .304 .420 109 219 60 15 4 3 28 25 9 20 1 0 1 0
    Bushong c .270 .362 .490 34 100 27 5 1 5 12 17 13 12 2 0 0 2
    Milligan,J c .266 .307 .438 125 443 118 23 7 13 56 58 23 67 4 0 2 5
    Latham 3b .265 .324 .364 162 678 180 22 3 13 106 79 55 88 7 0 56 26
    Gleason ss .262 .325 .411 144 550 144 14 4 20 81 68 44 56 8 0 17 7
    Devlin* sp .260 .288 .440 43 50 13 4 1 1 5 10 1 5 1 0 0 0
    Hudson sp .259 .286 .481 33 27 7 1 1 1 4 3 1 3 0 0 0 0
    Comiskey 1b .257 .290 .422 141 533 137 20 4 20 77 72 25 66 2 0 17 14
    White# ss .250 .360 .453 99 64 16 4 0 3 13 13 10 7 1 0 0 0
    Welch,C cf .250 .311 .388 155 549 137 24 8 12 82 73 40 83 12 0 40 8
    Nicol rf .239 .314 .261 92 46 11 1 0 0 7 8 5 7 0 0 3 2
    Robinson,Y 2b .227 .370 .356 125 449 102 11 10 9 63 42 98 84 6 0 23 9
    Foutz 1b .224 .275 .365 113 312 70 8 3 10 43 50 21 40 2 0 14 5
    Sylvester lf .200 .294 .267 6 15 3 1 0 0 2 0 2 4 0 0 0 0
    Chamberlain sp .180 .200 .400 37 50 9 0 1 3 5 9 2 9 0 0 0 0
    McGinnis sp .167 .222 .208 25 24 4 1 0 0 3 2 2 3 0 0 0 0
    King,S sp .165 .203 .235 42 115 19 4 2 0 7 11 6 23 0 0 0 0
    Lyons cf .097 .097 .194 10 31 3 0 0 1 2 4 0 6 0 0 0 0
    Knouff sp .000 .250 .000 30 6 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0
    Total .262 .329 .423 162 5568 1461 227 74 174 811 778 523 741 53 9 205 92
    .
    .

    Larry Corcoran (41-33, 2.70) with a sold season.
    .
    . DMB team pitching -- 1880-82 Chicago White Stockings
    Primary
    S Name P ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP BF
    Beals 2b 0.00 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
    Kelly,K rf 1.59 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 5.2 7 1 1 4 1 0 1 25
    Corcoran sp 3.70 41 33 0 91 86 43 5 705.2 624 341 290 245 458 90 45 2920
    Goldsmith sp 4.62 28 34 1 81 76 22 1 584.0 626 339 300 191 258 67 48 2542
    Poorman rf 6.41 8 17 14 95 0 0 0 153.0 202 129 109 83 24 17 11 735
    Nicol rf 9.00 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 5
    Total 4.44 78 84 15 162 162 65 6 1440.1 1461 811 711 523 741 174 105 6230
    .
    .


    Dave outz (16-13, 3.87) and series MVP Bob Caruthers (23-13, 3.98) were a strong 1-2 punch. Nat Hudson (3.04 ERA in 83 innings) was very good in relief with 3 starts too.
    .
    . DMB team pitching -- 1885-88 St. Louis Browns
    Primary
    S Name P ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP BF
    Hudson sp 3.04 4 6 4 33 3 2 1 83.0 79 30 28 18 49 8 7 338
    Foutz 1b 3.87 16 13 0 34 33 16 0 258.1 266 124 111 56 117 28 38 1073
    Caruthers sp 3.98 23 13 0 45 44 24 2 341.1 372 180 151 93 149 37 48 1461
    McGinnis sp 4.39 8 5 2 25 10 5 1 96.1 97 54 47 37 47 6 9 418
    King,S sp 4.59 15 19 0 42 41 13 1 310.0 353 173 158 70 184 31 35 1316
    Devlin* sp 4.73 8 8 5 43 8 2 0 129.1 140 80 68 32 55 15 5 558
    Knouff sp 5.08 1 1 1 30 0 0 0 56.2 67 32 32 26 39 4 7 260
    Chamberlain sp 5.65 9 13 1 37 23 3 1 172.0 203 122 108 69 108 27 22 788
    Total 4.37 84 78 13 162 162 65 7 1447.0 1577 795 703 401 748 156 171 6212
    .
    .

    The Browns fielded better, making 15 fewer errors and turning way more DP's. It helped them overcome the Chicago advantage in OPS (.766 to .752).
    .
    Team G PO A E DP TC PCT PB SB CS SB% CPO PPO
    86 St. Louis Browns 162 4341 1989 142 182 6472 .978 12 100 39 .719 1 14
    80 Chicago White Stockings 162 4321 1925 157 116 6403 .975 15 205 92 .690 1 16
    .


    19th Century League Champion
    1900s League Champion
    1910s League Champion

    1930s League Division Winner
    1950s League Champion
    1960 Strat-O-Matic League Regular Season Winner
    1960s League Division Winner
    1970s League Champion
    1971 Strat-O-Matic League Runner Up
    1980s League Champion
    All Time Greats League Champion
Working...
X