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    I've come up with something I call solitaire fantasy baseball and need some help on it.

    I used to play roto-ball (and did quite well actually) but I don't really have the time anymore for it. But the whole picking players still intrigues me. SO I came up with this:
    Take a standard ranking system of each position. The top ten of each then randomly pick a number one through ten for each position, C all the way through closer. With no number repeating, and whateve number you have for a position you are allowed to draft that number and above. So if you have a 4 for third base that means you can pick a thirdbasemen ranked 4th or higher (4th, 5th, 6th, so on), and of course if you feel somebody above 10 is the best choice you can draft him instead. After that is done you then have to draft 3 more starting pitchers and one more closer to round out the staff. For this you draft a pitcher that is ranked no better then 20th, then 30th, then 40th. For closer go with 20th.

    After that we then draft a bench which includes 5 position players and one pitcher. For the position players one must be a C/SS and the other can be anything but they can be ranked no better then 33rd. For the pitcher no better then 60th.

    Now my trouble and the point of this message is how does one measuere success? In standard roto that is easy. Who ever wins the most games or ranks the highest is the winner, I don't really know of a good way to find a way to show success for this. Is it some arbitrary numbers? If so what would they be.

    Basically this setup is more of a challenge of predicting who is going to perform in the upcoming season while standard roto is a mix between predicting, managing, and competing against fellow players.

  • #2
    The only way I can see measuring success here is to use a set of arbitrary numbers. Maybe take the top 10 finishers in each stat category at the end of the year, average them up, and compare your numbers to those averages?
    "It took me seventeen years to get three thousand hits in baseball. I did it in one afternoon playing golf." - Hank Aaron


    • #3

      What if you set a cap, like an auction league. You have x amount of spot dollars. The relative rankings of the guys you select have to add up to a minimum number.

      So A-Rod is #1 at 3B and so on. But the rank #'s of the your team must add up to at least 65 or something for your position players.

      So if you take the #1 3B, you have to take lower ranked guys somewhere else. Work it out the same for the the pitchers, on a different scale.

      You could even award extra points for how far over the minimum ranking sum you go or something.

      Then score it like a regular league is scored.

      This is just off the top of my head, it may have some terrible flaw, but I was just brainstorming for you.

      In the avy: AZ - Doe or Die


      • #4
        I think I got the ranking and picking part down though I can definitely see some sort of payroll cap type limit in the future.

        I'm more wondering about how turn the stats that the players accrue into something meaningful. Is 200 homers good? Is 160 homers and 100 steals better then 200 homers and 100 steals? So on and so on. Normally its just a ranking system all you have to do is be better then your opponents so this part is easy.

        Though I do like BadKarma's idea. I could take the top 8 in RBI, HR, so on and so on and then see how far away I am from that number. Granted the first year the number would be pretty meaningless or if only one person did it. But once a couple of seasons were under the belt the % would start to mean something.

        So I think for now I'll try something like what Bad Karma suggest and I think I will convert it into points. For instance the top 90% gets 10 points, 80-89 gets 9 points, 70-79 gets 8 points, so on and so on. So if the top 8 home run hitters gets 320 homers and your team has 250 then you get 8 points. Now that I think about it I'll probably add decimals so you would get 8.8 points for that.


        • #5
          By the way using my ranking pick formula and using Yahoo's default ranking system this is my team:

          Ryan Howard
          Placido Polanco
          Alex Rodrguez
          Jhonny Peralta
          Joe Mauer
          Jason Bay
          Geoff Jenkins
          Juan Pierre

          JJ Hardy
          Preston Wilson
          Jay Gibbons
          Rocco Baldelli
          Austin Kearns

          Carlos Zambrano
          Freddy Garcia
          Mark Mulder
          Zach Duke
          Trevor Hoffman
          Ryan Dempster

          Greg Maddux


          • #6
            Ubiq, I must admit that I am intrigued by this idea. Do you have specific catagories, or are you just going with the standard 5x5? Definately a neat concept that I would be interested in playing. The only problem I see is using Yahoo rankings. I never use their rankings as I consider them suspect, at best.
            "It took me seventeen years to get three thousand hits in baseball. I did it in one afternoon playing golf." - Hank Aaron


            • #7
              Yeah I used the standard 5*5. The Yahoo rankings are not great but they were the quickest and closest ranking I had on hand. One of the magazines would have been better but it was a spur of the moment thing.

              I really enjoyed roto-ball but I just don't have the time to manage the team every day throughout a season. This way I can still get into the spring training fever of looking and studying players and teams and then can casually watch my players throughout the year


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