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  • #16
    What if Babe Ruth stayed with the Red Sox?

    Before the 1920 season, I simply just gave Babe back to the Red Sox. This move made Boston the immediate favorite in the AL. Babe hit .336 with 38 home runs, but the Sox disappointed with a 74-80 season. He would play his whole career in Boston until he retired in 1934. He ended up winning 7 MVPs (1920-1924, 1926, 1928) but only put up 2 truly Ruthian seasons. 1923 and 1928 were excellent, but the majority of his seasons were just great.

    He could never do much, the Sox were AWFUL. There was a point where the lost 110+ games 6 seasons in a row. Still, he was the best player every year in the 20s, the all-time home run record holder, and a for sure HOFer.

    Rest in Peace Jose Fernandez (1992-2016)

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    • #17
      I have a crazy one. What if the Mets drafted Roger Clemens?

      Now, in real life, the Mets had two first round picks in 1983, the first pick, 4th overall, to draft a third baseman named Eddie Williams and the second pick, 20th overall, on outfielder Stan Jefferson. The Red Sox drafted Roger Clemens with the 19th overall pick, one ahead of the Mets. What if the Mets drafted Roger Clemens in the first round?
      The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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      • #18
        Fun fact: The Mets did draft Roger Clemens, in the 12th round of the 1981 amateur draft.

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        • #19
          What if Ron Kittle never hurt his back? Or how 'bout Ted Williams never missing time for Military service?

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          • #20
            --Bored on a Sunday evening, so I decided to run one of these "what-if" scenarios on Baseball Mogul.

            What if Jeff Bagwell was never traded from the Red Sox? I start the game in 1990 and place Bagwell in Boston's farm system.

            1990: He starts the year in AA as the Red Sox top prospect. He gets called up to AAA in June, and then to the big leagues in July after just 13 AAA games. He gets slotted in as the starting 1st Baseman and never looks back. He hits .305 with an .870 OPS in 73 games down the stretch, helping Boston go 98-64 and clinch the division. He struggled in the postseason, but was apart of a World Championship squad, ending the Babe Ruth Curse.

            1991: Has a down year in his first full season, but the Sox make it back to the World Series. Bagwell struggles in the postseason again as Boston gets swept in the WS.

            1992: Breakout year where he posted a .900 OPS, made his first All-Star appearance, and won the AL MVP. He also hit well in the postseason as the Red Sox win their 2nd title in 3 years.

            1993: Posts a solid year and sets a career high with 23 stolen bases. Unfortunately he only hit .043 in 7 games in the ALCS. He is starting to garner a reputation as a playoff choker.

            1994: Prior to the season, Boston signs him to a 6 year/$13m extension that'll pay him through the 1999 season. He responds by posting a solid .878 OPS. He hit well in the ALCS, but the Sox were beaten in 5 games.

            1995: At age 27, Bagwell has the worst season of his career. He only bats .250 and swats 11 home runs. He doesn't play in the postseason for the first time in his career, as the Sox finish 3rd with an 80-82 record.

            1996: Struggles to start the season, but starts to pick up momentum before the Trade Deadline. The last place Sox trade Bagwell to the Atlanta Braves who are in first place in their division. Bagwell posts a 1.000 OPS down the stretch as a Brave and leads them to a 100 win season. He hits .250 in the NLCS as the Braves are beaten in 5 games.

            1997: In his first full year in Atlanta, Bagwell has a monster campaign. He sets a career high with 43 home runs and a .305 batting average. He starts in the ASG and wins the National League MVP for his efforts. He becomes the second player ever to win an MVP in two different leagues. The Braves win 94 games, but lose in the NLCS despite a strong showing from Bagwell.

            1998: After a decent first half, Bagwell gets left off of the All-Star roster. A monster second half propels him to a second straight MVP campaign. Bagwell struggles in the NLDS as the Braves are swept.

            1999: The Braves sign him to a 5-year extension worth $35million, making him the highest paid player in the game. Bagwell rewards them with a 3rd straight MVP! The Braves make it to the World Series, but lose in 7 games as Bagwell only hits .160. He continues to play horribly in the postseason.

            2000: He has one of his best seasons, posting a 1.002 OPS in 162 games. Unfortunately he doesn't win the MVP, but he makes his 4th ASG appearance. He now an oddly disproportional career 4 ASG appearances and 4 MVP awards. The Braves fail to make the playoffs for the first time since 1995, winning only 84 games.

            2001: Bagwell finally starts to show signs of aging, posting a .778 OPS in his age-33 season. The Braves are eliminated in the NLDS as Bagwell once again struggles in the playoffs.

            2002: He's not done yet! Bagwell has a wonderful bounceback season, swatting 40 homers and hitting .292. He's rewarded his 5th MVP Award for his efforts. The aging Braves struggle to an 80-82 record and miss the playoffs.

            2003: He had a solid, but unspectacular year for the awful 68-94 Braves. He was the lone All-Star representative for Atlanta. He reached 400 home runs and 1,500 career RBI's.

            2004: Bagwell makes the All-Star team posting an .895 OPS as a 36-year old. Atlanta rewards him with a 3 year/$30m extension at the end of the year.

            2005: Starts to show his age and sees a decrease in playing time, playing in only 144 games. He scores his 1,500th run.

            2006: Bagwell puts up a monster first half, making the All-Star game for the 8th time. He then breaks his forearm and misses the remainder of the season. This is his first major injury that he's sustained, breaking his streak of 14 seasons in a row with at least 144 games played.

            2007: In his final season, Bagwell posts a respectable .799 OPS as a 39-year old. He also struggles in the postseason for the last time in his career, hitting .091 during an NLDS sweep. He hits his 500th home run, ends up with over 1,800 RBI, and a career slash line of .275/.377/.497/.874. He ends up with 67.3 total WAR. He is inducted as a first-ballot HOF'er 6 years later, earning 94% of the vote. Not bad, Jeff! He also retires as the all-time MVP earner, with 5 career awards. He ends up with an awful .210/.326/.367 career slash line in 286 career postseason AB's.


            Rest in Peace Jose Fernandez (1992-2016)

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            • #21
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              Rest in Peace Jose Fernandez (1992-2016)

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              • #22
                What if the Cubs had never traded Lou Brock?

                What if the Cubs had drafted Dwight Gooden instead of Shawon Dunston?

                What if Kerry Wood didn't hurt his arm after his rookie season?
                "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                - Sammy Sosa

                "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Windy City Fan View Post
                  What if the Cubs had never traded Lou Brock?

                  What if the Cubs had drafted Dwight Gooden instead of Shawon Dunston?

                  What if Kerry Wood didn't hurt his arm after his rookie season?
                  What if Kerry Wood didn't hurt his arm after his rookie season? Great question! P.S. I ran the Lou Brock sim like 10 times and they just kept trading him mid-season anyways, so it was a moot point anyways.

                  1999: Our many Kerry endures a sophomore slump. He ends up having a mediocre season as do his Cubs at 77-85.

                  2000: Ahh, there's the Kerry we know and love! He ends up with an ace-like season, making his first All-Star appearance. He also wins the NL Gold Glove at pitcher. Things are looking up for this 23 year old stud. He signs a 3 year/$10m extension in August.

                  2001: He misses a little bit of time (3 weeks) with an injury, but still is able to throw for 186.1 frames. Another solid season. He's looking like a legit #2 starter.

                  2002: Another injury, another extension, and another All-Star appearance for Mr. Wood. His injury lasted 4 weeks, but he still threw for 186.2 innings. He made the All-Star team (woohoo!). He signed a 4 year/$20m extension after the conclusion of the season. Oh yea, and the Cubs won their division at 89-73. Unfortunately they lost in the NLDS. Kerry got a no-decision in Game 1 in which he had 10 Ks.

                  2003: After his second start of the year, Kerry sustained a season-ending injury. He fractures his lumbar spine and was not able to return.

                  2004: Kerry makes his 3rd All-Star appearance in a season in which his peripherals didn't agree with his overall numbers. The Cubbies barely miss the postseason, going 91-71.

                  2005: At age 28, Kerry finally establishes himself as the ace of the Chicago Cubs. He makes his 4th All-Star apperance and leads the NL in ERA with a 2.98 mark. Chicago is unable to make it past the NLCS, but he pitches well in the postseason. He's rewarded with a 5 year/$52.5m contact at the conclusion of the season.

                  2006: Kerry has a strong season, but the Cubs end up at 89-73 and barely miss the postseason.

                  2007: Kerry posts another good, not great season as do the Cubs at 85-77.

                  2008; Kerry breaks his tibia in April, but returns in mid-June. He misses a significant portion of the season, but puts up strong numbers: 9-1, 2.83 ERA in 111.1 IP. The 92-70 Cubs lose in the NLDS.

                  2009: Ahh, this is refreshing. In a season which Kerry makes his 5th AS appearance, records his 2,000th strikeout, and leads the NL in Wins, the Cubs also win the World Series! Kerry was a key cog in breaking the Cubs vaunted 101 year curse.

                  2010: Kerry goes back to being a solid #2 whilst leading the NL in strikeouts. He dominates in his only NLDS start, but the Cubs lose in 4 games.

                  2011: In the offseason, Kerry signs with the hated Cardinals for 3 years/$26m. He posts a very good, yet injury marred season with his new team.

                  2012: Kerry can't stay healthy, but pitches very well in 29.1 innings.

                  2013: Kerry can't stay healthy again and only throws for 33.1 innings. He calls it a career after this season.
                  Rest in Peace Jose Fernandez (1992-2016)

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                  • #24
                    Kerry.png Here he is:
                    Rest in Peace Jose Fernandez (1992-2016)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Windy City Fan View Post
                      What if the Cubs had never traded Lou Brock?

                      What if the Cubs had drafted Dwight Gooden instead of Shawon Dunston?

                      What if Kerry Wood didn't hurt his arm after his rookie season?
                      Francoeurstein, I hope you don't mind that I interfere with an Out of the Park-sim.

                      But I think the Kerry Wood question is really interesting, so I decided to run a sim finding out just that and let you know what happens
                      Last edited by Germaniac; 03-30-2018, 04:05 AM.

                      "I told Mr. Rickey that someday I was going to have to meet my maker
                      and if He asked me why I didn't let that boy play and I said it was because
                      he was black, that might not be a satisfactory answer."


                      Happy Chandler, Baseball Commissioner, 1947

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                      • #26
                        Well, I did one sim ... injury was set to very low (the result obviously would be different if set to anything else from "normal" all the way to "extremely low") and I didn't interfere in transactions.

                        He left the Cubbies as a Free Agent for Texas after the 2003 season and he basically was a journeyman after that. He retired at age 35 in 2012 and had a few very good outings early in his career (16 K's vs the St. Louis Cardinals in August 1998, then he struck out 15 Cardinals in June 2001 and 15 more two starts later against Minnesota. He set his career high in a 2-hit shutout against the Reds in September 2001. His final highlight was a 15 K effort against the Dodgers in August 2003.

                        He signed a $30 Million/4 year deal with Texas, but he went downhill after that. He had a decent season with the Marlins in 2008 as their closer, then went to the White Sox, Washington, back to the White Sox and to Houston, but he didn't pitch in the majors for the final two teams in 2011 and 2012)

                        I hope you liked that short trip through Kerry Wood's career

                        "I told Mr. Rickey that someday I was going to have to meet my maker
                        and if He asked me why I didn't let that boy play and I said it was because
                        he was black, that might not be a satisfactory answer."


                        Happy Chandler, Baseball Commissioner, 1947

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                        • #27
                          I haven't played Baseball Mogul for years, as I prefer dice baseball games where you are more involved, but:

                          Can you still go into the commisioner mode and alter the ballparks? I would love to see a decade of 21st century baseball where the ballparks never changed and were still at their dead ball era dimensions. How would today's star perform if instead of playing where the power alleys are short, they are now mostly well over 400 feet with center fields that are 450 and greater? Would today's power hitters now become .400 hitters with all the new fair territory to cover? Would the AI in the program allow that the pitchers would no longer have to bear down on every pitch and be able to complete half or more of their starts and maybe even pitch on 2-days rest?

                          I have done this sim with tabletop baseball, where the parks were deep, and the pitchers could pick their spots to work out of jams.

                          We all know that today's athlete is in much better condition than the athlete of 1900. Look at the time of the Mile run. There are kids on my block that can run faster miles than the champions of 1900.

                          Today's pitcher with today's stamina and fitness could easily have pitched 350-450 innings per season without having to throw 100% on every pitch. I believe that the top pitchers today could be like Jack Chesbro, Joe McGinnity, and others under these circumstances.

                          Also, somebody like Jose Altuve might be the next Ty Cobb if his line drives rolled 430 feet rather than hitting walls at 370 feet. Fielders would have to play farther back to get angles on liners, so balls would find open spots in front of the fielders as well as between them.

                          Stolen bases, hit and runs, and taking extra bases would be more important than hitting towering fly balls 425 feet deep, where in many instances, they would be easy fly outs.

                          Can Baseball Mogul do this, or is it impossible? Tabletop Baseball can do this.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Francoeurstein View Post
                            What if Babe Ruth stayed with the Red Sox?

                            Before the 1920 season, I simply just gave Babe back to the Red Sox. This move made Boston the immediate favorite in the AL. Babe hit .336 with 38 home runs, but the Sox disappointed with a 74-80 season. He would play his whole career in Boston until he retired in 1934. He ended up winning 7 MVPs (1920-1924, 1926, 1928) but only put up 2 truly Ruthian seasons. 1923 and 1928 were excellent, but the majority of his seasons were just great.

                            He could never do much, the Sox were AWFUL. There was a point where the lost 110+ games 6 seasons in a row. Still, he was the best player every year in the 20s, the all-time home run record holder, and a for sure HOFer.

                            A what if I might be interested in on Ruth is What if he remained a pitcher and never switched to the outfield? I suggest based on his pitching career that he may have still been a HOFer, though not necessarily in the class of contemporaries such as Johnson or Alexander.
                            27 World Championships
                            22 retired numbers
                            Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?
                            Baseball was, is, and always will be to me the best sport-Babe Ruth

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                            • #29
                              Here's an interesting one. What if the Yankees and Red Sox had succeeded in making the Williams for DiMaggio trade in 47?
                              DiMaggio quit arter 51, saying baseball wasn't fun anymore. Two factors may have changed his mind.
                              1. Fenway park is much friendlier than Yankee Stadium for righties.
                              2. Dominic
                              Don't even get me started on Ted Williams and Yankee Stadium.
                              27 World Championships
                              22 retired numbers
                              Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?
                              Baseball was, is, and always will be to me the best sport-Babe Ruth

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                              • #30
                                Post deleted. Wrong game.
                                Last edited by MattD1972; 06-15-2018, 04:08 AM.

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