I started this for my own statistical purposes in rating the teams. I will begin with raw data only for SP, RP, Lineup, Bench and Fielding, then I will subjectify them. I really just needed to get started because it is quite a chore. Feel free to discuss. I may post a data only thread later.
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I will be posting another set of averages in italics which are straight up averages rating every pitcher though the same number of innings. The bold averages overweight the huge inning guys of course. The "equal weight" average will underrate legitimate inning eaters, but both averages used together should be valuable.
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I was never going for ERA+ with my pitchers, but more fielding independent pitching stats. Vance and Waddell, relative to their leagues, are probably the greatest strikeout artists of all time. But good chart, and I hope to see more like them."Any pitcher who throws at a batter and deliberately tries to hit him is a communist."
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Originally posted by AstrosFan View PostI was never going for ERA+ with my pitchers, but more fielding independent pitching stats. Vance and Waddell, relative to their leagues, are probably the greatest strikeout artists of all time. But good chart, and I hope to see more like them.
So Waddell and Vance may very well be 1015 points better in my final analysis, while others may ne 1015 points worse.
(Well based on BBPro, Waddell is about 6 points better and Vance about 22.5 points better, but that's pretty significant, unfortunately Coveleski is 4 points worse, while Bender is about +1. Alltogether it would raise your starters by about 1.3 points on the composite ERA+, but other teams might also drop some).Last edited by brett; 02112008, 04:05 PM.
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For bullpen, I listed the combined average innings because I figure that a team needs to have at least 400 innings covered by the bullpen to be really set there. If 5 starters each go 200, then there are about 377 innings left for the pen assuming 8.5 innings per game and 458 assuming 9.0 innings per game.
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You have both TSS and WL listed as having Plesac, and you missed that DMF has Eckersley.
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And Gagne looks like the secondbest closer option out there, after Rivera.
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Originally posted by Erik Bedard View PostI'm pleasantly surprised by my bullpen. Probably top 5, with my rotation. And I like my lineup more than my pitching. And Gagne looks like the secondbest closer option out there, after Rivera.
Unfortunately there are not enough top lefties out there.Last edited by brett; 02162008, 07:18 PM.
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Originally posted by Wade8813 View PostBased on what? Papelbon, Wagner, Nathan, (and I assume Eck) all have better numbers based off just that chart. And Ryan is basically tied.
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