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  • Post-WWII Playoff

    Hey everyone. Let's get this finished once and for all. In case you forgot, here's how it works:

    Everyone (excluding myself) will vote for which team they want to advance in the usual draft thread. There are six teams, meaning three winners. The three that lose will be voted on to let one advance, thus making it a four-team semi-final round. Then we vote for the top two, followed by a winner.

    Round 1:
    Team A vs Team B
    Team C vs Team D
    Team E vs Team F

    Teams A, C, and F are voted on; Team C wins

    Round 2:
    Team B vs Team C
    Team D vs Team E

    Round 3:
    Team B vs Team E

    I waive my voting rights. However, I will act as arbitrator if need be. My say goes.
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

  • #2
    So which teams go with which letters?
    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
    Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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    • #3
      I've generated the match-ups for round 1:

      Brooklyn Bees vs. N. A. Grahams
      Post-WWII Bums vs. Gotham Knights
      Key Obezags vs. Columbus Alphas

      Bees belong to Brad Harris.
      Grahams belong to RuthMayBond.
      Bums belong to BigRon.
      Knights belong to Wade8813.
      Obezags belong to Splendid Splinter.
      Alphas belong to Tyrus4189Cobb.

      The rosters are here. Let the madness begin...
      Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 07-08-2010, 08:40 AM.
      "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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      • #4
        Sorry - I thought I'd posted my team name. I'll go with the Gotham Knights.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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        • #5
          Voting has already started. Feel free to post your ballots whenever. Very simple: just copy and paste the match ups I posted, with your winners bolded.

          I created an unrequired team history. It was for fun as I awaited the final changes; don't think I'm trying to get some edge by doing it.
          Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 07-08-2010, 09:24 AM.
          "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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          • #6
            Are we supposed to post our winners on this thread? I'll try to post mine tomorrow.

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            • #7
              Brooklyn Bees vs. N. A. Grahams
              Post-WWII Bums vs. Gotham Knights
              Key Obezags vs. Columbus Alphas

              BTW, there should probably be a deadline for submitting votes. Hopefully it'll be unnecessary, but we should still have it.
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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              • #8
                My Round 1 votes:

                N.A. Grahams over Brooklyn Bees- Brad's got a lot of offense but his 8 man pitching staff will hit the wall going against the teams in this league.

                Key Obezags over Columbus Alphas- good matchup, but TSS has too much balance.

                Post-WW2 Bums over Gotham Knights- another close matchup. The Bums have a better balanced lineup- more topflight baserunning, more power. Pitching matchups are close and good, but the Bums have more flexible guys in the bullpen. Also, the Knights have only 2 righthanders on the staff- they'll get into trouble over the long haul.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                  Post-WW2 Bums over Gotham Knights- another close matchup. The Bums have a better balanced lineup- more topflight baserunning, more power. Pitching matchups are close and good, but the Bums have more flexible guys in the bullpen. Also, the Knights have only 2 righthanders on the staff- they'll get into trouble over the long haul.
                  More power?!!? Are you looking at the right lineup? I have more power than you do. Not to mention my better on-base.

                  1st base - McCovey VS Killebrew. Both great sluggers.
                  2nd base - Grich VS Robinson. Both not sluggers, Robinson has a slight edge.
                  SS - Banks VS Larkin. Larkin had some pop, but he's nowhere close to Banks.
                  3B - Chipper VS Schmidt. Both great sluggers.
                  C - Posada VS Campanella. Both good sluggers, but Campanella was clearly better.
                  RF - F Robinson VS Reggie Jackson. Both great sluggers.
                  LF - Mantle VS Raines. Not even CLOSE. Mantle by a landslide
                  CF - Edmonds VS Puckett. Both solid power hitters, but Edmonds has a clear edge.
                  DH - Stargell VS Manny. Manny might have the edge by the numbers, but you have to deduct for steroids.

                  And your pitching isn't as good as mine. Your guys can last longer, but my guys provide more quality per inning. And since my guys can easily last more than long enough, your extra endurance is extraneous.
                  Last edited by Wade8813; 07-09-2010, 10:41 PM.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                  • #10
                    I PMed all. Deadline is July 12. RuthMayBond needs to empty is messages, and I don't know what's become of Brad and Splinter.
                    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
                      I PMed all. Deadline is July 12. RuthMayBond needs to empty is messages, and I don't know what's become of Brad and Splinter.
                      My bad, I now have PM space
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                      Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wade8813 View Post
                        Your guys can last longer, but my guys provide more quality per inning. And since my guys can easily last more than long enough, your extra endurance is extraneous.
                        I knew this was never about career value but rates instead
                        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                        Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
                          I knew this was never about career value but rates instead
                          I believe we decided the voting was how we think the teams would do if pitted against each other. That means you need endurance for your team to make it through the season, but it's kind of overkill to have a rotation full of workhorses plus a bullpen stocked with innings eaters. The season just doesn't have that many innings in it.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wade8813 View Post
                            I believe we decided the voting was how we think the teams would do if pitted against each other. That means you need endurance for your team to make it through the season, but it's kind of overkill to have a rotation full of workhorses plus a bullpen stocked with innings eaters. The season just doesn't have that many innings in it.
                            Go back and read the first phrase of the first post of the draft thread. Just because you believe that's how we did it doesn't mean we did. If the teams played against each other, WHICH year of each player would you use?
                            Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                            Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
                              Go back and read the first phrase of the first post of the draft thread. Just because you believe that's how we did it doesn't mean we did. If the teams played against each other, WHICH year of each player would you use?
                              Sure, but remember, we're drafting teams, not individual performances. Hence the reason people picked slightly inferior players who had the handedness they needed, or filled a role they were lacking. BR brags about his team being balanced - that only matters if we're treating this like they're a team. It's important for a team to have enough playerse to not get exhausted during a season, but once you accomplish that, you need them to be more effective during those innings.

                              We seemed to not have any trouble figuring out how career stats would translate to real head to head play in the Alphabet draft. There are a lot of ways - look at the players' 162 game average (with penalties applied for short careers), pretend all of the players were rookies the same year and compare how they'd do each year, etc.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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