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    World Series Losers Draft Rules, Positional Selections and Discussion

    Hi all. Welcome to the next round of drafting. This one will be as the title states. Players who've been on WS losers' side. Much of the rules here at taken from Ian's run with the WS winners.

    Edit: Rules removed from here as they are duplicated. See the first post in the Official Draft Thread for all rules and information.
    Last edited by Ben Grimm; 10-01-2012, 06:19 AM.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers
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  • #2
    To start it off, I of course am in.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    • #3
      well things seem to have been restarted so I guess I am in again

      how do you determine who goes first?
      1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
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      • #4
        I'll only do it if you really need an extra guy, but my head probably wouldn't be in this one as much it has been for other drafts.
        Baseball Junk Drawer

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
          well things seem to have been restarted so I guess I am in again

          how do you determine who goes first?
          The draft order is usually selected at random. I think this online randomizer is a popular tool for setting it.
          Baseball Junk Drawer

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          • #6
            Count me in.

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            • #7
              I'm in. Can starters be used as relievers?

              And I think LF/RF should be interchangeable.
              "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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              • #8
                I am still in.
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                • #9
                  I was just wondering if it would be more interesting if instead of discussing trades by PM if we started a trade thread where all trade negotiations could be sent. Then we could all see what trades were being discussed and maybe join the negotiations and make a better trade offer.
                  Last edited by John Shoemaker; 09-29-2012, 07:23 AM.

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                  • #10
                    ^ yes good idea

                    And friends I am REALLY big on trades

                    say a high and a low draft choice (for example my #1 and # 15) for your #2 and your your #6 or something, just thinking out loud
                    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
                      well things seem to have been restarted so I guess I am in again

                      how do you determine who goes first?
                      Glad to hear you're back in. We'll use the randomizer Ian provided as a link. Once all teams are in, I'll run them thru and post the order. From there we can start.

                      Originally posted by ian2813 View Post
                      I'll only do it if you really need an extra guy, but my head probably wouldn't be in this one as much it has been for other drafts.
                      Well I'd love to have you in Ian, but I can totally understand.
                      Originally posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
                      I'm in. Can starters be used as relievers?

                      And I think LF/RF should be interchangeable.
                      Welcome aboard! Starters can be used as relievers. But to be honest, I tend to downgrade them during the voting process simply because most are not used to coming into game situations cold - but that's probably just me. Now if you used a swingman in that/those spot(s) then it's a different story.

                      Unless anybody has an objection, I'll let CFs play any OF position. RFs can play LF, but LFs cannot play RF. I'm one of those believers that most LFs are there because they don't have the arm necessary for playing RF.

                      Originally posted by Matthew C. View Post
                      I am still in.
                      Great to hear!

                      Originally posted by John Shoemaker View Post
                      I was just wondering if it would be more interesting if instead of discussing trades by PM if we started a trade thread where all trade negotiations could be sent. Then we could all see what trades were being discussed and maybe join the negotiations and make a better trade offer.
                      I like that idea. I'll modify the rules above letting those involved have the choice between public discussion or private at their own discretion.

                      Hopefully, we can get a couple more as it looks like we have five in so far.
                      "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                      • #12
                        I modified Rule 12 stating that there will be no 154-game or innings-pitched minimum. I really like it for the franchise drafts, but don't think it's necessary here.
                        "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                        • #13
                          Draft Order (once created)


                          Teams Available (for a quick link, go to Baseball Reference Postseason. Clicking on the first link next to each given year such as "World Series (4-2)" will show each player that had a PA or threw a pitch during that given WS at the bottom of each page.)

                          1903 Pittsburgh Pirates
                          1905 Philadelpha A's
                          1906 Chicago Cubs
                          1907 Detroit Tigers
                          1909 Detroit Tigers
                          1910 Chicago Cubs
                          1911 NY Giants
                          1912 NY Giants
                          1913 NY Giants
                          1914 Philadelphia A's
                          1915 Philadelphia Phillies
                          1916 Brooklyn Robins
                          1917 NY Giants
                          1918 Chicago Cubs
                          1919 Chicago White Sox
                          1920 Brooklyn Robins
                          1921 NY Yankees
                          1922 NY Yankees
                          1923 NY Giants
                          1924 NY Giants
                          1925 Washington Senators
                          1926 NY Yankees
                          1927 Pittsburgh Pirates
                          1928 St Louis Cardinals
                          1929 Chicago Cubs
                          1930 St Louis Cardinals
                          1931 Philadelphia A's
                          1932 Chicago Cubs
                          1933 Washington Senators
                          1934 Detroit Tigers
                          1935 Chicago Cubs
                          1936 NY Giants
                          1937 NY Giants
                          1938 Chicago Cubs
                          1939 Cincinnati Reds
                          1940 Detroit Tigers
                          1941 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1942 NY Yankees
                          1943 St Louis Cardinals
                          1944 St Louis Browns
                          1945 Chicago Cubs
                          1946 Boston Red Sox
                          1947 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1948 Boston Braves
                          1949 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1950 Philadelphia Phillies
                          1951 NY Giants
                          1952 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1953 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1954 Cleveland Indians
                          1955 NY Yankees
                          1956 Brooklyn Dodgers
                          1957 NY Yankees
                          1958 Milwaukee Braves
                          1959 Chicago White Sox
                          1960 NY Yankees
                          1961 Cincinnati Reds
                          1962 SF Giants
                          1963 NY Yankees
                          1964 NY Yankees
                          1965 Minnesota Twins
                          1966 LA Dodgers
                          1967 Boston Red Sox
                          1968 St Louis Cardinals
                          1969 Baltimore Orioles
                          1970 Cincinnati Reds
                          1971 Baltimore Orioles
                          1972 Cincinnati Reds
                          1973 NY Mets
                          1974 LA Dodgers
                          1975 Boston Red Sox
                          1976 NY Yankees
                          1977 LA Dodgers
                          1978 LA Dodgers
                          1979 Baltimore O's
                          1980 KC Royals
                          1981 NY Yankees
                          1982 Milwaukee Brewers
                          1983 Philadelphia Phillies
                          1984 San Diego Padres
                          1985 St Louis Cardinals
                          1986 Boston Red Sox
                          1987 St Louis Cardinals
                          1988 Oakland A's
                          1989 San Fran Giants
                          1990 Oakland A's
                          1991 Atlanta Braves
                          1992 Atlanta Braves
                          1993 Philadelphia Phillies
                          1995 Cleveland Indians
                          1996 Atlanta Braves
                          1997 Cleveland Indians
                          1998 San Diego Padres
                          1999 Atlanta Braves
                          2000 NY Mets
                          2001 NY Yankees
                          2002 SF Giants
                          2003 NY Yankees
                          2004 St Louis Cardinals
                          2005 Houston Astros
                          2006 Detroit Tigers
                          2007 Colorado Rockies
                          2008 Tampa Rays
                          2009 Philadelphia Phillies
                          2010 Texas Rangers
                          2011 Texas Rangers
                          Last edited by Ben Grimm; 10-01-2012, 05:43 AM.
                          "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                          • #14
                            Reserved for draft.
                            "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                            • #15
                              The WS Winners draft used each player's career as a measuring stick for voting. I'm wondering if it makes more sense to simply use what that player did during that exact season in which he's selected. Granted, there are players who get traded by the deadline to some of these teams so his entire season's stats would be used - not just for the partial time he was with his new team.

                              Reason I mention this is that some players may be taken based on career numbers but may not have contributed during that given season whether too young, too old, injured, etc.

                              I don't know. I'm good either way, but just thought this might have a bit more impact when selecting certain players. Any thoughts?
                              "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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