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    This will serve as the official ACTION thread for this draft league. We can still have "discussions: on the other thread.

    Let me set the rules and guidelines, which may be "modified" (not changed) for clarification. Please note this is my first time running an online project like this so I apologize in advance if I make a mistake or need to make a decision in the middle of the project that was not pre-thought of in the rules section.

    1) After the final sign ups, randomizer, and selection of draft orders, we will proceed as follows:

    When it is your turn, you can pick any stock team from 1901 to 1984. (Sorry I do not want to include the PED era, too many unanswered questions and players of questionable legitimacy). Name the team and the year, for example 1927 New York Yankees or 1962 New York Mets. We will draft the AL teams first, then the NL teams.

    EXCLUSIONS: there must be a MINIMUM 3 year GAP between teams drafted as stock teams from the same league. Example, the 1934 Cardinals are drafted. No NL team from 1932, 1933, 1934, 1935 or 1936 is eligible for somone else to draft. This rule was edited Nov 18, to include the exact year also

    2) From the initial stock team you select, you will designate your INITIAL 25 Man roster, this must be posted. Please do not edit or change your INITIAL team roster post as this must be referenced to "audit" your additions and upgrades. You can submit your finalized roster on a separate new post. This rule was modified Nov 18

    THEN, You can add 7 "players" with these restrictions and explanations:

    A) you can add any player from the same year and same league, this counts as "one" player move.
    EXAMPLE you choose the 1965 Twins, you can add any AL player from 1965. If the player is traded mid season and played in 2 leagues, you will only use his AL stats. If he was traded
    within the same league, you will use his combined stats

    B) you add any player that played on the same team as your stock team the year before or the year after. You can replace the same player with "himself" from an elgible year and this is
    considered an upgrade. "Upgraded" players (say you want the 1964 Giants but want 1963 Willie McCovey to replace 1964 Willie McCovey) count as "one/half" a player move.

    C) you can add any other player from the same team as your stock team the year before or year after.
    EXAMPLE: You have the 1971 White Sox but want to add 1972 Dick Allen who was not on the 1971 White Sox but was on the 1972 WHite Sox, you can add him but this counts as a full "one player" move.

    D) EXCLUSIONS, you can not draft or upgrade a player who was on a different team the previous or following year.
    EXAMPLE: your team is the 1971 Cardinals. 1972 Steve Carlton, who was on the Phillies is not eligible for your team.

    E) This will be a NO DH league. Even if you choose an AL team from 1973 to 1984 there will be no DH

    F) a Player may be on more than one team in this draft league (using different years)
    EXAMPLE: someone selects the 1963 Dodgers and makes Ron Perranoski a member of his team. Someone else takes the 1969 Orioles and decided to draft 1969 Ron Perranoski who
    was on the Twins, Both players are legal and eligible.

    G) USAGE and POSITION ELIGIBILITY, we will be liberal here, based on feedback. A player on your team who played CF THE YEAR YOU ARE USING HIM, can play any OF position. Corner OF can play
    either corner OF position. In both tof the previous cases, a player must have played 3 games as a CF to qualify as a CF and 3 games as a RF/LF to qualify as a corner OF. Infielders must have played
    3 games at the position you are using him for. Catchers must have played 1 game as a catcher. Any pitcher can be considered a reliever, but to qualify as a starter the pitcher must have started 3
    games. This rule was added/modified on 11/17


    H) After all additions and upgrades, you then submit your FINAL 25 man roster, thought this may be apparent to everyone, but after adding "7" players you do not submit a 32
    man roster, you must submit a 25 man roster. This clarification was added Nov 18


    I) For clarification, based on members questions, on player usage.
    1) a player should be used withing 10% of his actual usage. For hitters this would be PAs, for pitchers this should be IP.
    2) for position usage if a player qualifies for a position, he can be used for ALL of his PAs at that position (or any amount more than his actual use at that position), even though he may have played
    50% or much less of that position in his actual season. Example, a player has 525 PA and splits the between 1B and RF. You can designate all 525 of his PA (or any amount up to that) at a single
    position that he qualifies for, in this case 1B, RF, OR LF! THIS RULE WAS ADDED FOR CLARIFICATION ON 11/19


    NOTE The drafting of teams will be randomized, but whoever picks first for the AL will pick last for the NL etc.

    Once the teams are established there will be a one week period to make the necessary changes to your stock team for one league. Then after that, another week to make the necessary changes to the team in the other league.

    Winners can be chosen by vote or by a sim (whichever is decided by members). League winners first, then a world series winner.

    THIS IS THE CURRENT CHRONOLOGY which should more or less be followed but also flexible:


    Saturday November 17 (3 PM east coast time) - last day/time to officially sign up for the league
    Saturday November 17 - randomizer selects who gets first choice of draft positions
    Saturday November 17 - choice of draft positions is held (should easily be done in one to 1.5 days)
    Sunday November 18 1 PM east coast time - drafting of teams for AL starts, I would suggest a 5 hour time limit on team/year drafts
    Monday November 19 - drafting of NL teams starts (may start sooner if AL draft finishes faster)
    Tuesday November 20 (midnite east coast time) - all teams/years for both leagues have been completed
    Tuesday November 20 each player submits his ORIGINAL 25 man AL roster that will establish his base team. The "7" moves/changes will be made in relation to this base team
    Tuesday Nov 20 TO Monday Nov 26 AL rosters finalized and submitted. (Submitted Monday Nov 26)
    Tuesday November 27 each player submits his ORIGINAL 25 man NL roster that will establish his base team. The "7" moves/changes will be made in relation to this base team
    Tuesday Nov 27 TO Monday Dec 3 NL rosters finalized and submitted (submmitted Monday December 3)
    Tues Dec 4 - Thu Dec 6 voting for AL
    Fri Dec 7 to Sun Dec 9 - voting for NL
    Mon Dec 10 - Tue Dec 11 - voting for WS

    ----------------------------------

    note ANY changes additions or clarification of rules after this initial post (other than spelling and grammar items) will be highlighted in BLUE FONT and DATED as to when the changes / additions were made
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 11-19-2012, 08:25 AM.
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  • #2
    RIGHT NOW (subject to change these are the 7 available position that will be selected for draft position)

    A: NL 1 / AL 7
    B. NL 2 / AL 6
    C. NL 3 / AL 5
    D. NL 4 / AL 4
    E. NL 5 / AL3
    F. NL 6 / AL 2
    G. NL 7 / AL 1
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      dupe dupe dupe
      Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 11-18-2012, 10:48 AM.
      1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
      2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
      3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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      • #4
        Just an advance warning: tomorrow- Sunday, November 18, I will be travelling between until at least 2 PM, perhaps 3 PM Eastern time. Hopefully this won't interfere with my draft time but it's possible. Unfortunately thee's nothing I can do about it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BigRon View Post
          Just an advance warning: tomorrow- Sunday, November 18, I will be travelling between until at least 2 PM, perhaps 3 PM Eastern time. Hopefully this won't interfere with my draft time but it's possible. Unfortunately thee's nothing I can do about it.
          we are low key and cool - let's just enjoy

          BTW Happy Thanksgiving everyone and ask yourself "What are you thankful for?"
          1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
          2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
          3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            Just a heads up, in case you weren't aware, RoyHobbs, I'm in Korea right now, so 3 PM Eastern is 5 AM for me. If it seems I'm not here in the afternoon, it's probably because those are my sleeping hours.
            Baseball Junk Drawer

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ian2813 View Post
              Just a heads up, in case you weren't aware, RoyHobbs, I'm in Korea right now, so 3 PM Eastern is 5 AM for me. If it seems I'm not here in the afternoon, it's probably because those are my sleeping hours.
              good to know
              1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
              2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
              3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                OK Wade can you do the randomizer

                just list members and assign them a number 1-7

                guys I also PMd Wade
                Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 11-17-2012, 01:54 PM.
                1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                • #9
                  Even if Wade's not on any time soon, I have no problem with anybody randomizing an order. Random.org and go to "lists" down the page for a quick one.
                  "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                  • #10
                    I know its a little past the deadline, but I'd like to get in on this if I can.
                    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                    - Sammy Sosa

                    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
                      Even if Wade's not on any time soon, I have no problem with anybody randomizing an order. Random.org and go to "lists" down the page for a quick one.


                      you do it then we will void any random list from wade

                      add #8 windy city fan

                      assign each member a number 1 - 8
                      1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                      2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                      3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Windy City Fan View Post
                        I know its a little past the deadline, but I'd like to get in on this if I can.
                        we would gladly welcome you
                        1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                        2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                        3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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                        • #13
                          Nice to have ya, W C.

                          Okay, I'll random. I asuume i only need to do once since reverse will be used for NL, correct?
                          "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                          • #14
                            Here's the order it came up with....

                            There were 8 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
                            1.Ian2813
                            2.JohnShoemaker
                            3.BigRon
                            4.BenGrimm
                            5.9RoyHobbsRF
                            6.Windy City Fan
                            7.Wade8813
                            8.chicagowhitesox1173

                            Timestamp: 2012-11-17 21:40:27 UTC


                            From my understanding, this isn't the final draft order. Ian has first choice to select where he wants to draft since his placement decides where he'll draft his NL team, correct?
                            Last edited by Ben Grimm; 11-17-2012, 02:49 PM.
                            "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
                              Here's the order it came up with....

                              There were 8 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
                              1.Ian2813
                              2.JohnShoemaker
                              3.BigRon
                              4.BenGrimm
                              5.9RoyHobbsRF
                              6.Windy City Fan
                              7.Wade8813
                              8.chicagowhitesox1173

                              Timestamp: 2012-11-17 21:40:27 UTC


                              From my understanding, this isn't the final draft order. Ian has first choice to select where he wants to draft since his placement decides where he'll draft his NL team, correct?
                              Ian you get first choice of draft picks (2 married together)

                              A: NL 1 / AL 8
                              B. NL 2 / AL 7
                              C. NL 3 / AL 6
                              D. NL 4 / AL 5
                              E. NL 5 / AL 4
                              F. NL 6 / AL 3
                              G. NL 7 / AL 2
                              H. NL 8 / AL 1

                              Ian up
                              Johnny Shoes on deck
                              1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
                              2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
                              3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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