Roster Thread: Stock team draft league with parameters

[ian2813]

Are we in fact going to use a simulator? It might be easier than trying to rank all these teams by ourselves.

[9RoyHobbsRF]

It was fun making the rosters but It's pretty tough to pick a winner. If I had to choose which team was the best other than my 1931 Athletics, I would probably go with Bigrons 1953 Brooklyn Dodger team. That 1927 Yankees team would be up there too.

cool

just remember we pick league winners first then have a world series winner

[chicagowhitesox1173]

It was fun making the rosters but It's pretty tough to pick a winner. If I had to choose which team was the best other than my 1931 Athletics, I would probably go with Bigrons 1953 Brooklyn Dodger team. That 1927 Yankees team would be up there too.

[9RoyHobbsRF]

1965 San Francisco Giants Final Roster (stats to be added later today)

ROTATION
1965 Sandy Koufax 26-8 2.04 ERA
335.2 IP 216 H 382 K 7 BB 26 HR 160 ERA+ 0.855 WHIP 27 CG 8 SHO 2 S
1965 Juan Marichal 22-13 2.14 ERA
295.1 IP 224 H 240 K 46 BB 27 HR 169 ERA+ 0.914 WHIP 24 CG 10 SHO 2 S
1966 Gaylord Perry 21-8 2.99 ERA
255.2 IP 242 H 201 K 40 BB 15 HR 124 ERA+ 1.103 WHIP 13 CG 3 SHO
1965 Bob Shaw 16-9 2.64 ERA
235 IP 213 H 148 K 53 BB 17 HR 137 ERA+ 1.132 WHIP 6 CG 1 S 2 SHO

STARTERS/RELIEVERS
1965 Ron Herbel 12-9 3.85 ERA
170.2 IP 172 H 106 K 46 BB 16 HR 94 ERA+ 1.283 WHIP 1 CG 1 S
1965 Jack Sanford 4-5 3.96 ERA
91 IP 92H 43 K 30 BB 11 HR 92 ERA+ 1.341 WHIP 2 S


BULLPEN
1965 Bobby Bolin 14-6 2.76 ERA
163 IP 125 H 135 K 56 BB 17 HR 131 ERA+1.110 WHIP 2 CG 2 S
1965 Masanori Murakami 4-1 3.75 ERA
74.1 IP 57 H 85 K 22 BB 9 HR 97 ERA+ 1.063 WHIP 8 S
1965 Bill Henry[/B] 2-2 3.64 ERA
42 IP 40 H 35 K 8 BB 2 HR 100 ERA+ 1.143 WHIP 4 S
1965 Frank Linzy 9-3 1.43 ERA
81.2 IP 76 H 35 K 23 BB 2 HR 253 ERA+ 1.212 WHIP 21 S



1. 1965 Pete Rose 2B
757 PA 670 AB .312 BA 11 HR 11 3B 35 2B 117 R 81 RBI 69 BB .382 OB .446 SA 127 OPS+
2. 1965 Billy Williams LF
719 PA 645 AB .315 BA 34 HR 6 3B 39 2B 115 R 108 RBI 65 BB .377 OB .552 SA 157 OPS+
3. 1965 Willie Mays CF
638 PA 558 AB .317 BA 52 HR 3 3B 21 2B 118 R 112 RBI 76 BB .398 OB .645 SA 185 OPS+
4. 1965 Willie McCovey 1B
639 PA 540 AB .276 BA 39 HR 4 3B 17 2B 93 R 92 RBI 88 BB .381 OB .539 SA 153 OPS+
5. 1965 Hank Aaron RF
639 PA 570 AB .318 BA 32 HR 1 3B 40 2B109 R 89 RBI 60 BB .379 OB .560 SA 161 OPS+
6. 1965 Ron Santo 3B
704 PA 608 AB .285 BA 33 HR 4 3B 30 2B 88 R 101 RBI 88 BB .378 OB .510 SA 146 OPS+
7. 1965 Tom Haller C
486 PA 422 AB .251 BA 16 HR 3 3B 4 2B 40 R 49 RBI 47 BB .335 OB .389 SA 101 OPS+
8. 1965 Maury Wills SS
711 PA 650 AB .286 BA 0 HR 7 3B 14 2B 92 R 33 RBI .330 OB .329 SA 93 OPS+ 94 SB

R 1965 Jack Hiatt
80 PA 67 AB .284 BA 1 HR 0 3B 4 2B 5 R 7 RBI .392 OB .388 SA 119 OPS+
R 1964 Orlando Cepeda
588 PA 529 AB .304 31 HR 2 3B 27 2B 75 R 97 RBI 43 BB .361 OB .529 SA 148 OPS+
R 1965 Jim Davenport
302 PA 271 AB .251 BA 4 HR 3 3B 14 2B 29 R 31 RBI 21 BB .304 OB .369 SA 87 OPS+
R 1965 Jim Ray Hart
649 PA 591 AB .299 23 HR 6 3B 30 2B 91 R 96 RBI 47 BB .349 OB .487 SA 131 OPS+
R 1965 Len Gabrielson* combined stats
356 PA 317 AB .293 BA 7 HR 5 3B 6 2B 40 R 31 RBI 33 BB .362 OB .410 SA 115 OPS+
R 1965 Jesus Alou
567 PA 543 AB .298 9 HR 4 3B 19 2B 76 R 52 RBI 13 BB .317 OB .398 SA 98 OPS+
R 1965 Cap Peterson
117 PA 105 AB .248 3 HR 0 3B 7 2B 14 R 15 RBI 10 BB .310 OB .400 SA 97 OPS+

[9RoyHobbsRF]

Guys I am sorry = have been on pins and needles the last week or so

I accepted a really nice job and was supposed to start last Friday and had about 6 work days to do 2 weeks of home study before I traveled to the east coast for a week of training but due to delays on the company's end , I am now only starting tomorrow and will have all of 3 business days to do 2 weeks of home study

SO I will submit my roster for the 1965 Giants and then will have to ask someone else to finish the last part of the league, mainly the two rounds of votes/sims

Anyone?

[ian2813]

1948 Boston Braves - Final Roster

Changes:

Upgraded Warren Spahn to 1947 version
Upgraded Phil Masi to 1947 version
Upgraded Johnny Antonelli to 1949 version
Upgraded Connie Ryan to 1949 version
Replaced Nels Potter with Dutch Leonard (1948 Philadelphia Phillies)
Replaced Ernie White with Harry Brecheen (1948 St. Louis Cardinals)
Replaced Frank McCormick with Johnny Mize (1948 New York Giants)
Replaced Sibby Sisti with Jackie Robinson (1948 Brooklyn Dodgers)
Replaced Clint Conatser with Stan Musial (1948 St. Louis Cardinals)

Pitchers

SP 1947 Warren Spahn*
21-10 W-L, 2.33 ERA, 289.2 IP, 170 ERA+, 2.6 BB/9, 3.8 K/9, 0.5 HR/9
SP 1948 Harry Brecheen*
20-7 W-L, 2.24 ERA, 233.1 IP, 182 ERA+, 1.9 BB/9, 5.7 K/9, 0.2 HR/9
SP 1948 Johnny Sain
24-15 W-L, 2.60 ERA, 314.2 IP, 149 ERA+, 2.4 BB/9, 3.9 K/9, 0.5 HR/9
SP 1948 Dutch Leonard
12-17 W-L, 2.51 ERA, 225.2 IP, 156 ERA+, 2.2 BB/9, 3.7 K/9, 0.4 HR/9
SP 1948 Vern Bickford
11-5 W-L, 3.27 ERA, 146 IP, 119 ERA+, 3.9 BB/9, 3.7 K/9, 0.6 HR/9
RP 1948 Red Barrett
7-8 W-L, 3.65 ERA, 128.1 IP, 107 ERA+, 1.8 BB/9, 2.8 K/9, 0.6 HR/9
RP 1949 Johnny Antonelli*
3-7 W-L, 3.56 ERA, 96 IP, 107 ERA+, 3.9 BB/9, 4.5 K/9, 0.6 HR/9
RP 1948 Bill Voiselle
13-13 W-L, 3.63 ERA, 215.2 IP, 107 ERA+, 3.8 BB/9, 3.7 K/9, 0.8 HR/9
RP 1948 Clyde Shoun*
5-1 W-L, 4.01 ERA, 74 IP, 97 ERA+, 2.4 BB/9, 3.0 K/9, 0.9 HR/9
RP 1948 Bobby Hogue
8-2 W-L, 3.23 ERA, 86.1 IP, 120 ERA+, 2.0 BB/9, 4.5 K/9, 0.4 HR/9

Main Lineup

C 1947 Phil Masi
470 PA, .304/.377/.443, 9 HR, 7 SB, 119 OPS+
1B 1948 Johnny Mize*
658 PA, .289/.395/.564, 40 HR, 156 OPS+
2B 1948 Jackie Robinson
648 PA, .296/.367/.453, 12 HR, 22 SB, 117 OPS+
3B 1948 Bob Elliott
677 PA, .283/.423/.474, 23 HR, 6 SB, 143 OPS+
SS 1948 Alvin Dark
581 PA, .322/.353/.433, 3 HR, 113 OPS+
LF 1948 Jeff Heath*
420 PA, .319/.404/.582, 20 HR, 165 OPS+
CF 1948 Stan Musial*
698 PA, .376/.450/.702, 39 HR, 7 SB, 200 OPS+
RF 1948 Tommy Holmes*
638 PA, .325/.375/.439, 6 HR, 121 OPS+

Bench

C 1948 Bill Salkeld*
250 PA, .242/.378/.414, 8 HR, 115 OPS+
1B 1948 Earl Torgeson*
533 PA, .253/.372/.397, 10 HR, 109 OPS+
2B 1948 Eddie Stanky
313 PA, .320/.455/.417, 2 HR, 138 OPS+
IF 1949 Connie Ryan
234 PA, .250/.319/.409, 6 HR, 98 OPS+
CF 1948 Jim Russell#
375 PA, .264/.361/.410, 9 HR, 109 OPS+
OF 1948 Mike McCormick
384 PA, .303/.363/.417, 1 HR, 111 OPS+
COF/3B 1948 Danny Litwhiler
430 PA, .275/.367/.456, 14 HR, 124 OPS+

* - denotes LH batter/pitcher
# - denotes switch-hitter

[John Shoemaker]

I will have very limited computer access from Saturday December 1 thru Thursday December 6. I will try to get to a computer sometime during these days but if I can't just vote without me - don't wait for me.

[ian2813]

1948 Boston Braves - Initial Roster

P 1948 Johnny Sain
P 1948 Warren Spahn*
P 1948 Bill Voiselle
P 1948 Vern Bickford
P 1948 Red Barrett
P 1948 Bobby Hogue
P 1948 Nels Potter
P 1948 Clyde Shoun*
P 1948 Ernie White*
P 1948 Johnny Antonelli*
C 1948 Phil Masi
1B 1948 Earl Torgeson*
2B 1948 Eddie Stanky
3B 1948 Bob Elliott
SS 1948 Al Dark
LF 1948 Jeff Heath*
CF 1948 Jim Russell#
RF 1948 Tommy Holmes*
C 1948 Bill Salkeld*
IF 1948 Frank McCormick
IF 1948 Connie Ryan
IF 1948 Sibby Sisti
OF 1948 Mike McCormick
OF 1948 Clint Conatser
OF 1948 Danny Litwhiler

[9RoyHobbsRF]

1965 Giants

Player Changes (subject to deadline day change)

1. 1965 Sandy Koufax added replaces Ken Henderson on roster

2. 1965 Hank Aaron added replaces Harvey Kuenn on roster

3. 1965 Billy Williams added replaces Matty Alou on roster

4. 1965 Ron Santo added replaces Tito Fuentes on roster

5. 1965 Pete Rose added replaces Hal Lanier on roster

6. 1965 Maury Wills added replaces Dick Schofield on roster

7. (A) Gaylord Perry will be upgraded to his 1966 season

7. (B) Orlando Cepeda will be upgraded to his 1964 season

[9RoyHobbsRF]

1965 San Francisco Giants Initial Roster

Juan Marichal
Bob Shaw
Gaylord Perry
Jack Sanford
Ron Herbel
Bobby Bolin
Masanori Murakami
Frank Linzy
Bill Henry

Tom Haller
Jack Hiatt

Willie McCovey
Orlando Cepeda
Hal Lanier
Dick Schofield
Jim Ray Hart
Jim Davenport
Tito Fuentes

Len Gabrielson
Willie Mays
Jesus Alou
Matty Alou
Cap Peterson
Harvey Kuenn
Ken Henderson

[BigRon]

1953 Brooklyn Dodgers- Modified Roster

The 1953 Dodgers were one of the best offensive teams of all times, combining high averages, outstanding power, and good baserunning. They were also a standout defensive team. Their only flaw was their pitching staff. They had lost ace Don Newcombe to the Korean War draft; Preacher Roe was fading; Joe Black struggled due to an arm injury after a brilliant rookie season. Collectively, their pitching was no better than average.

I'll see what I can do to make this brilliant but flawed team even better.

1. Robin Roberts replaces Ralph Branca.
2. Warren Spahn replaces Russ Meyer.
3. Stan Musial replaces Dick Williams.
4. Eddie Mathews replaces Bobby Morgan.
5. Hoyt Wilhelm replaces Jim Hughes.
6. Lew Burdette replaces Ben Wade.
1/2. Preacher Roe 1952 replaces Preacher Roe 1953.
1/2. Joe Black 1952 replaces Joe Black 1953.

I've added enormously to what was already among the best offensive lineups of all time with the addition of Musial in LF and Mathews at 3B. Jackie Robinson returns to 2B, where he was still excellent defensively. The lineup boasts a super-impressive collection of high BAs, high OBPs, high SAs, and home run firepower. The bench gets a big boost, with Cox, previous starter at 3B and SS, and Gilliam, 1953 ROY, at 2B, where he will start at least 30 games, spelling Robinson.

The pitching staff gets a massive upgrade. Spahn and Roberts, the 2 best pitchers in the NL in 1953, anchor the starting rotation. Joe Black 1952 replaces 1953 Black. Black was one of the very best pitchers in the NL in '52- the best, on a rate stat basis. Wilhelm joins the staff as another ace short man to go along with Black and Labine- all 3 are capable of going multiple innings. Lew Burdette is an effective swingman, doing spot start duty with Roe 1952 version, as well as long/middle relief.

1953 Brooklyn Dodgers- Final roster

C Roy Campanella BR 312/395/611 41 HR 154 OPS+ 6.8 WAR
1B Gil Hodges BR 302/393/550 31 HR 139 OPS+ 4.2 WAR
2B Jackie Robinson BR 329/425/502 12 HR 137 OPS+ 6.7 WAR
SS Pee Wee Reese BR 271/374/420 7 HR 104 OPS+ 4.9 WAR
3B Eddie Mathews BL 302/406/627 47* HR 171* OPS+ 8.0 WAR
LF Stan Musial BL 337/437*/609 30 HR 167 OPS+ 7.5 WAR
CF Duke Snider BL 336/419/627* 42 HR 165 OPS+ 9.1* WAR
RF Carl Furillo BR 344*/393/580 21 HR 146 OPS+ 4.5 WAR

C Rube Walker
1B Wayne Belardi 239/311/481 11 HR 101 OPS+
2B Jim Gilliam 278/383/415 6 HR 105 OPS+ 21 SB 3.8 WAR
3B/SS Billy Cox Billy Cox 291/363/443 10 HR 106 OPS+
LF George Shuba 254/326/426 5 HR 92 OPS+
CF/RF Don Thompson

P Warren Spahn TL 23*-7 2.10* ERA 265.2 IP 1.058* WHIP 188 ERA+ 8.5 PWAR
P Robin Roberts TR 23*-16 2.75 346.2* IP 1.111 WHIP 153 ERA+ 9.4* PWAR
P Carl Erskine TR 20-6 3.54 246.2 IP 1.249 WHIP 121 ERA+ 3.9 PWAR
P Lew Burdette TR 15-5 3.24 175.0 IP 1.331 WHIP 122 ERA+ 3.2 PWAR
P Preacher Roe TL 11-2 3.12 158.2 IP 1.273 WHIP 118 ERA+ 2.6 PWAR
P Billy Loes TR 13-8 4.54 162.2 IP 1.340 WHIP 95 ERA+ 0.2 PWAR
P Johnny Podres TL 9-4 4.23 115 IP 1.652 WHIP 102 ERA+ 0.3 PWAR
P Bob Milliken TR 8-4 117 IP 128 ERA+ 1.156 WHIP
P Clem Labine TR 11-6 2.77 110.1 IP 1.106 WHIP 155 ERA+ 2.6 PWAR
P Hoyt Wilhelm TR 68G 6-8 3.14 145 IP 1.467 WHIP 143 ERA+ 15 SV 3.4 PWAR
P Joe Black 1952 TR 15-4 2.15 142.1 IP 1.005 WHIP 171 ERA+ 4.3 PWAR

Here's how my team stacks up offensively in the NL in 1953:
Position player WAR: 1-2-3-4-5-9
BA: 1-3-4-8-10
OBP: 1-2-3-4-8-10
SA: 1-2-3-4-5-7Tie
OPS: 1-2-3-4-5-8-10
TB: 1-2-3-8Tie
2B: 1-3Tie-3Tie-8Tie
HR: 1-2-3-6-7Tie
OPS+: 1-2-3-4-5-8-9

Pitching WAR: 1-2-7-9-10, plus Joe Black 1952 would be #1 with 12 more IP
ERA: 1-2-7-10, plus Black 1952 would be #1 with 12 more IP
WHIP: 1-2-5, plus Black 1952 would be #1 with 12 more IP
SO: 1-2-5
CG: 1-2-5

Typical Lineup vs RHP
1. 2B Jackie Robinson BR 329/425/502 12 HR 137 OPS+ 6.7 WAR
2. LF Stan Musial BL 337/437*/609 30 HR 167 OPS+ 7.5 WAR
3. CF Duke Snider BL 336/419/627* 42 HR 165 OPS+ 9.1* WAR
4. C Roy Campanella BR 312/395/611 41 HR 154 OPS+ 6.8 WAR
5. 3B Eddie Mathews BL 302/406/627 47* HR 171* OPS+ 8.0 WAR
6. RF Carl Furillo BR 344*/393/580 21 HR 146 OPS+ 4.5 WAR
7. 1B Gil Hodges BR 302/393/550 31 HR 139 OPS+ 4.2 WAR
8. SS Pee Wee Reese BR 271/374/420 7 HR 104 OPS+ 4.9 WAR

Typical Lineup vs LHP
1. SS Pee Wee Reese BR 271/374/420 7 HR 104 OPS+ 4.9 WAR
2. 2B Jackie Robinson BR 329/425/502 12 HR 137 OPS+ 6.7 WAR
3. LF Stan Musial BL 337/437*/609 30 HR 167 OPS+ 7.5 WAR
4. C Roy Campanella BR 312/395/611 41 HR 154 OPS+ 6.8 WAR
5. 3B Eddie Mathews BL 302/406/627 47* HR 171* OPS+ 8.0 WAR
6. RF Carl Furillo BR 344*/393/580 21 HR 146 OPS+ 4.5 WAR
7. 1B Gil Hodges BR 302/393/550 31 HR 139 OPS+ 4.2 WAR
8. CF Duke Snider BL 336/419/627* 42 HR 165 OPS+ 9.1* WAR

Pitching Lineup
SP Warren Spahn TL 23*-7 2.10* ERA 265.2 IP 1.058* WHIP 188 ERA+ 8.5 PWAR
SP Robin Roberts TR 23*-16 2.75 346.2* IP 1.111 WHIP 153 ERA+ 9.4* PWAR
SP Carl Erskine TR 20-6 3.54 246.2 IP 1.249 WHIP 121 ERA+ 3.9 PWAR
Start/Long Relief Lew Burdette TR 15-5 3.24 175.0 IP 1.331 WHIP 122 ERA+ 3.2 PWAR
Start/Long Relief Preacher Roe 1952 TL 11-2 3.12 158.2 IP 1.273 WHIP 118 ERA+ 2.6 PWAR
Middle Relief/Spot Start Billy Loes TR 13-8 4.54 162.2 IP 1.340 WHIP 95 ERA+ 0.2 PWAR
Middle Relief Johnny Podres TL 9-4 4.23 115 IP 1.652 WHIP 102 ERA+ 0.3 PWAR
Middle Relief Bob Milliken TR 8-4 117 IP 1.156 WHIP 128 ERA+
Short Relief Clem Labine TR 11-6 2.77 110.1 IP 1.106 WHIP 155 ERA+ 2.6 PWAR
Short Relief Hoyt Wilhelm TR 68G 6-8 3.14 145 IP 1.467 WHIP 143 ERA+ 15 SV 3.4 PWAR
Short Relief Joe Black 1952 TR 15-4 2.15 142.1 IP 1.005 WHIP 171 ERA+ 4.3 PWAR

[ian2813]

The 1959 White Sox' roster is finalized.

[Wade8813]

My AL roster is finalized, however I still have to input stats and notes for my team. These are the changes I'm making

Drop Joe Dugan -----------> for Jimmy Dykes
Drop Johnny Grabowski ----> for Mickey Cochrane
Drop Cedric Durst ---------> for Harry Heilmann
Drop Joe Giard ------------> for Ted Lyons
Drop Ray Morehart -------> for Charlie Gehringer
Drop Walter Beall ---------> for Tommy Thomas

Herb Pennock --------> Herb Pennock 1928
George Pipgras -------> George Pipgras 1928

[BigRon]

1953 Brooklyn Dodgers- Initial Roster

C Roy Campanella
1B Gil Hodges
2B Jim Gilliam
SS Pee Wee Reese
3B Billy Cox
LF Jackie Robinson
CF Duke Snider
RF Carl Furillo

C Rube Walker
1B Wayne Belardi
IF Bobby Morgan
OF George Shuba
OF Don Thompson
OF Dick Williams

P Carl Erskine
P Russ Meyer
P Billy Loes
P Preacher Roe
P Johnny Podres
P Jim Hughes
P Bob Milliken
P Clem Labine
P Ben Wade
P Joe Black
P Ralph Branca

[Wade8813]

1958 Braves - Preliminary Roster

C Del Crandall
1B Frank Torre
2B Red Schoendienst
SS Johnny Logan
3B Eddie Mathews
LF Wes Covington
OF Hank Aaron
CF Bill Bruton

(C) Del Rice
(1B/LF) Joe Adcock
(2B) Mel Roach
(2, S, OF) Felix Mantilla
(LF) Andy Pafko
(SS) Joe Koppe

SP Warren Spahn
SP Lew Burdette
SP Bob Rush
SP Carl Willey
SP Juan Pizarro
SP Joey Jay
SP Bob Buhl

RP Humberto Robinson
RP Don McMahon
RP Bob Trowbridge
RP Gene Conley