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  • Ben Grimm
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    Originally posted by 9RoyHobbsRF View Post
    well he hasn't even submitted his INITIAL roster which was due a week ago
    I'm tired of WCF. This is the 2nd draft I've been in with him and both times he finish.

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    Originally posted by Wade8813 View Post
    It's fine either way, but we could just give WCF until the deadline tomorrow to catch up on everything. That's the deadline that really matters

    As far as vote VS sim, we could do both...
    well he hasn't even submitted his INITIAL roster which was due a week ago

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  • John Shoemaker
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    Both my 1975 Oakland Athletics and my 1972 Los Angeles Dodgers are finalized.

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  • ian2813
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    Do we actually have a simulator available? If we do, then I'd definitely like to use it. I think it'd be cool to see how the computer judges our teams.

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  • Wade8813
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    It's fine either way, but we could just give WCF until the deadline tomorrow to catch up on everything. That's the deadline that really matters

    As far as vote VS sim, we could do both...

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    1964 Twins roster finalized and complete

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    Guys looks like we have 7 submitted "rough draft" final rosters

    With a deadline of tomorrow for finalizing these

    Windy City Fan has defaulted on several deadlines already with no posts in recent days so I am going to declare him and his teams "OUT" of both leagues (sorry, no offense but we need to move on)

    I will ask for FINAL changes (if any) by tomorrow at 3 PM eastern time (Monday Nov 26) for the remaining 7 AL teams

    Are we going to vote or run a sim?

    please respond with a new post on this thread that your team is finalized and when we have seven we can begin the vote/SIM
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 11-25-2012, 08:32 PM.

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  • ian2813
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    1959 Chicago White Sox - Final Roster

    Changes:

    Upgraded Billy Pierce to 1958 version
    Upgraded Billy Goodman to 1958 version
    Replaced Barry Latman with Camilo Pascual (1959 Washington Senators)
    Replaced Ray Moore with Hoyt Wilhelm (1959 Baltimore Orioles)
    Replaced Jim Rivera with Al Kaline (1959 Detroit Tigers)
    Replaced Johnny Callison with Tito Francona (1959 Cleveland Indians)
    Replaced Ken McBride with Frank Baumann (1960 Chicago White Sox)
    Replaced Ted Kluszewski with Roy Sievers (1960 Chicago White Sox)

    Pitchers

    1959 Camilo Pascual
    17-10 W-L, 2.64 ERA, 238.2 IP, 149 ERA+, 2.6 BB/9, 7.0 K/9, 0.4 HR/9
    1959 Hoyt Wilhelm
    15-11 W-L, 2.19 ERA, 226 IP, 173 ERA+, 3.1 BB/9, 5.5 K/9, 0.5 HR/9
    1959 Bob Shaw
    18-6 W-L, 2.59 ERA, 230.2 IP, 141 ERA+, 2.1 BB/9, 3.5 K/9, 0.6 HR/9
    1959 Early Wynn
    22-10 W-L, 3.17 ERA, 255.2 IP, 120 ERA+, 4.2 BB/9, 6.3 K/9, 0.7 HR/9
    1958 Billy Pierce*
    17-11 W-L, 2.68 ERA, 245 IP, 137 ERA+, 2.4 BB/9, 5.3 K/9, 1.2 HR/9
    1959 Dick Donovan
    9-10 W-L, 3.66 ERA, 179.2 IP, 104 ERA+, 2.9 BB/9, 3.6 K/9, 0.8 HR/9
    1960 Frank Baumann*
    13-6 W-L, 2.67 ERA, 185.1 IP, 144 ERA+, 3 SV, 2.6 BB/9, 3.4 K/9, 0.5 HR/9
    1959 Rudy Arias*
    2-0 W-L, 4.09 ERA, 44 IP, 93 ERA+, 2 SV, 4.1 BB/9, 5.7 K/9, 1.4 HR/9
    1959 Gerry Staley
    8-5 W-L, 2.24 ERA, 116.1 IP, 169 ERA+, 14 SV, 1.9 BB/9, 4.2 K/9, 0.4 HR/9
    1959 Turk Lown
    9-2 W-L, 2.89 ERA, 93.1 IP, 131 ERA+, 15 SV, 4.1 BB/9, 6.1 K/9, 1.2 HR/9

    Main Lineup

    C 1959 Sherm Lollar
    576 PA, .265/.345/.451, 22 HR, 118 OPS+
    1B 1960 Roy Sievers
    525 PA, .295/.396/.534, 28 HR, 150 OPS+
    2B 1959 Nellie Fox*
    717 PA, .306/.380/.389, 2 HR, 113 OPS+
    3B 1958 Billy Goodman*
    471 PA, .299/.355/.358, 0 HR, 98 OPS+
    SS 1959 Luis Aparicio
    686 PA, .257/.316/.332, 6 HR, 56 SB, 79 OPS+
    LF 1959 Tito Francona*
    443 PA, .363/.414/.566, 20 HR, 171 OPS+
    CF 1959 Jim Landis
    623 PA, .272/.370/.379, 5 HR, 20 SB, 108 OPS+
    RF 1959 Al Kaline
    594 PA, .327/.410/.530, 27 HR, 10 SB, 151 OPS+

    Bench

    C 1959 John Romano
    153 PA, .294/.407/.468, 5 HR, 141 OPS+
    1B 1959 Earl Torgeson*
    344 PA, .220/.359/.357, 9 HR, 7 SB, 99 OPS+
    3B/OF 1959 Bubba Phillips
    415 PA, .264/.319/.380, 5 HR, 92 OPS+
    COF 1959 Jim McAnany
    231 PA, .276/.339/.348, 0 HR, 90 OPS+
    3B/SS 1959 Sammy Esposito
    81 PA, .167/.282/.227, 1 HR, 43 OPS+
    OF 1959 Al Smith
    529 PA, .237/.311/.396, 17 HR, 7 SB, 94 OPS+
    COF/1B 1959 Harry Simpson*
    97 PA, .202/.258/.382, 3 HR, 74 OPS+


    * - denotes LH batter/pitcher
    Last edited by ian2813; 11-27-2012, 04:54 AM.

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  • John Shoemaker
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    1972 Los Angeles Dodgers – Final Roster

    Transactions

    ADDED Hank Aaron (1972 Atlanta Braves) to replace Steve Yeager
    ADDED Steve Carlton (1972 Philadelphia Phillies) to replace Bill Singer
    ADDED Willie McCovey (1972 San Francisco Giants) to replace Duke Sims
    ADDED Johnny Bench (1972 Cincinnati Reds) to replace Willie Crawford
    ADDED Willie Mays (1972 New York Mets) to replace Billy Grabarkewitz
    ADDED Billy Williams (1972 Chicago Cubs) to replace Jim Lefebvre
    ADDED Mike Schmidt (1972 Philadelphia Phillies) to replace Maurey Wills

    Roster of Position Players

    Hank Aaron -----BA-.265 HR-34 RBI-77 BATS-RIGHT – 1B - RF
    Johnny Bench---BA-.270 HR-40 RBI-125 BATS-RIGHT – C – RF – 1B – 3B
    Bill Buckner----- BA-.319 HR-5 RBI-37 BATS-LEFT – RF – 1B – LF
    Chris Cannizzaro-BA-.240 HR-2 RBI-18 BATS-RIGHT – C
    Willie Davis----- BA-289 HR-19 RBI-79 BATS-LEFT – CF
    Steve Garvey---BA-.269 HR-9 RBI-30 BATS-RIGHT – 3B – 1B
    Lee Lacy------- BA-.259 HR-0 RBI-12 BATS-RIGHT – 2B
    Willie Mays------BA-.250 HR-8 RBI-22 BATS-RIGHT – CF – 1B
    Willie McCovey--BA-.213 HR-14 RBI-35 BATS-LEFT – 1B
    Manny Mota---- BA-.323 HR-5 RBI-48 BATS-RIGHT – LF
    Wes Parker------BA-.279 HR-4 RBI-59 BATS-BOTH – 1B – CF – RF
    Frank Robinson- BA-.251 HR-19 RBI-59 BATS-RIGHT – RF – LF
    Bill Russell------ BA-.272 HR-4 RBI-34 BATS-RIGHT – SS – RF
    Mike Schmidt----BA-.206 HR-1 RBI-3 BATS-RIGHT – 3B
    Bobby Valentine-BA-.274 HR-3 RBI-32 BATS-RIGHT – 2B – 3B – SS – CF
    Billy Williams-----BA-.333 HR-37 RBI-122 BATS-LEFT – LF – 1B

    Roster of Pitchers

    Jim Brewer----W/L 8-7 ERA-1.26 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-LEFT
    Steve Carlton-W/L 27-10 ERA-1.97 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-LEFT
    Al Downing----W/L 9-9 ERA-.2.98 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-RIGHT
    Tommy John---W/L 11-5 ERA-2.89 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-RIGHT
    Pete Mikkelsen-W/L 5-5 ERA-4.06 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Claude Osteen-W/L 20-11 ERA-2.64 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-LEFT
    Pete Richert---W/L 2-3 ERA-2.25 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-LEFT
    Mike Strahler--W/L 1-2 ERA-3.26 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Don Sutton----W/L 19-9 ERA-2.08 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT

    Starting Lineup against left handed starting pitcher

    Willie Davis – CF
    Bobby Valentine – 2B
    Johnny Bench – C
    Billy Williams – LF
    Hank Aaron – 1B
    Frank Robinson – RF
    Bill Russell – SS
    Steve Garvey – 3B
    (pitchers spot)

    Starting Lineup against right handed starting pitcher

    Willie Davis – CF
    Bill Buckner – RF
    Johnny Bench – C
    Billy Williams – LF
    Hank Aaron – 1B
    Bill Russell – SS
    Bobby Valentine – 2B
    Steve Garvey – 3B
    (pitchers spot)

    Starting Pitching Rotation

    SP-Steve Carlton
    SP-Don Sutton
    SP-Claude Osteen
    SP-Tommy John

    Bullpen

    RP-Al Downing
    RP-Pete Mikkelsen
    RP-Pete Richert
    RP-Mike Strahler
    CL-Jim Brewer
    Last edited by John Shoemaker; 11-26-2012, 08:34 AM.

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    initial roster ideas 1965 Giants (even though my initial roster isn't submittted - not due until next week)

    1. upgrade 1965 Cepeda to 1964 Cepeda
    2. upgrade 1965 Gayord Perry to 1966 Gaylord Perry
    3. Add 1965 Koufax, Aaron, Billy Williams, Santo, and either Maury Wills or Leo Cardenas as SS and either Joe Morgan or Pete Rose as 2B
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 11-22-2012, 10:15 AM.

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  • Ben Grimm
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    Got it. Just read the Dick Allen rule. My bad - sorry Johnny Shoes.

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  • 9RoyHobbsRF
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    Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think these two moves are allowed since neither was on the A's '75 roster. Hobbs will need to double-check as I simply may have misread the rules.
    these are both allowed and equal one full move EACH

    you can add ANY player from the same team the year prior or year after see original rules

    C) you can add any other player from the same team as your stock team the year before or year after.
    EXAMPLE: You have the 1971 White Sox but want to add 1972 Dick Allen who was not on the 1971 White Sox but was on the 1972 WHite Sox, you can add him but this counts as a full "one player" move.

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  • Ben Grimm
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    Originally posted by John Shoemaker View Post
    1975 Oakland Athletics – Final Roster
    ADDED Catfish Hunter (1974 Oakland Athletics) to replace Jim Perry
    ADDED Willie McCovey (1976 Oakland Athletics) to replace Larry Haney
    I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think these two moves are allowed since neither was on the A's '75 roster. Hobbs will need to double-check as I simply may have misread the rules.

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  • chicagowhitesox1173
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    1931 Philadelphia Athletic Final Roster
    ************************************************
    ADDED-Babe Ruth 1931 NewYork Yankees to replace Lou Finney
    ADDED-Lou Gehrig 1931 NewYork Yankees to replace Jimmy Moore
    ADDED-Joe Cronin 1931 Washington Senators to replace Joe Boley
    ADDED-Earl Averil 1931 Cleveland Indians to replace Eric McNair
    ADDED-Wes Ferrell 1931 Cleveland Indians to replace Sol Carter
    ADDED-Lefty Gomez 1931 NewYork Yankees to replace Jim Peterson
    CHANGED Jimmy Foxx to 1932 season
    CHANGED Jimmy Dykes to 1930 season

    Starting Positions
    C1. Mickey Cochrane (L)
    17hr 89rbi 349avg 423obp 149ops+ 5.2war
    1B. Lou Gehrig (L)
    46hr 184rbi 341avg 446obp 194ops+ 8.6war
    2B. Max Bishop (L)
    5hr 37rbi 294avg 426obp 113ops+ 5.7war
    SS. Joe Cronin (R)
    12hr 126rbi 306avg 391obp 127ops+6.4war
    3B. Jimmy Foxx (R)
    58hr 169rbi 364avg 469obp 207ops+ 10.2war
    LF. Al Simmons (R)
    22hr 128rbi 390avg 444obp 175ops+ 7.2war
    CF. Earl Averil (L)
    32hr 143rbi 333avg 404obp 150ops+ 5.7war
    RF. Babe Ruth (L)
    46hr 163rbi 373avg 495obp 218ops+ 10.0war

    Bench
    1.) Mule Haas (L) CF
    8hr 56rbi 323avg 366obp 114ops+
    2.) Bing Miller (R) RF
    8hr 77rbi 281avg 338obp 109ops+
    3.) Jimmy Dykes (R) 3B
    6hr 73rbi 301avg 414obp 109ops+
    4.) Doc Cramer (L) LF, CF
    2hr 20rbi 260avg 301obp 64ops+
    5.) Dib Williams (R) SS, 2B
    6hr 40rbi 269avg 313obp 78ops+
    6.) Phil Todt (L) 1B
    5hr 44rbi 244avg 273obp 73ops+
    7.) Johnnie Heving (R) C2.
    1hr 12rbi 239avg 277obp 55ops+
    8.) Wes Ferrell (R) PH
    9hr 30rbi 319avg 373obp 152ops+

    Starting Staff
    Lefty Grove (L)
    31-4w/l 2.06era 217era+ 9.5war
    Lefty Gomez (L)
    21-9w/l 2.67era 150era+ 5.3war
    Rube Walberg (L)
    20-12w/l 3.74era 120era+ 5.1war
    Wes Ferrell (R)
    22-12w/l 3.75era 123era+ 5.7war
    Goerge Earnshaw (R)
    21-7w/l 3.67era 122era+ 4.4war

    Bullpen
    1.) Roy Mahaffey (R)
    15-4w/l 4.21era 106era+
    2.) Waite Hoyt (R)
    10-5w/l 4.22era 106era+
    3.) Eddie Rommel (R)
    7-5w/l 2.97era 151era+
    4.) Bill Shores (R)
    0-3w/l 5.06era 90era+
    5.) Lew Krause (R)
    1-0w/l 4.09era 113era+

    1925 Pittsburgh Pirates Final Roster
    ************************************************
    ADDED-Rogers Hornsby 1925 St. Louis Cardinals to replace Roy Spencer
    ADDED-Paul Waner 1926 Pittsburgh Pirates to replace Fresco Thompson
    ADDED-Jack Fournier 1925 Brooklyn Dodgers to replace Al Niehaus
    ADDED-Eppa Rixey 1925 Cincinnati Reds to replace Don Songer
    ADDED-Dolph Luque 1925 Cincinnati Reds to replace Bud Culloton
    CHANGED-Ray Kremer to 1926 Season
    CHANGED-Emil Yde to 1924 Season
    CHANGED-Babe Adams to 1924 Season
    CHANGED-Earl Smith to 1926 Season

    Starting Positions
    C1. Earl Smith (L)
    2hr 46rbi 346avg 407obp 124ops+ 2.4war
    1B. Jack Fournier (L)
    22hr 130rbi 350avg 446obp 160ops+ 5.4war
    2B. Rogers Hornsby (R)
    39hr 143rbi 403avg 489obp 210ops+ 10.1war
    SS. Glenn Wright (R)
    18hr 121rbi 308avg 341obp 102ops+ 4.0war
    3B. Pie Traynor (R)
    6hr 106rbi 320avg 377obp 108ops+ 3.5war
    LF. Max Carey (B)
    5hr 44rbi 343avg 418obp 126ops+ 4.2war
    CF. Kiki Cuyler (R)
    18hr 102rbi 357avg 423obp 152ops+ 6.6war
    RF. Paul Waner (L)
    8hr 79rbi 336avg 413obp 148ops+ 5.1war

    Bench
    1.) Goerge Grantham (L) 1B
    8hr 52rbi 326avg 413obp 125ops+
    2.) Eddie Moore (R) 2B, 3B, LF, RF
    6hr 77rbi 298avg 383obp 98ops+
    3.) Clyde Barnett (R) LF, RF
    4hr 114rbi 325avg 391obp 109ops+
    4.) Stuffy McInnis (R) 1B
    0hr 24rbi 368avg 437obp 129ops+
    5.) Johnny Rawlings (R) 2B, SS
    2hr 13rbi 282avg 336obp 83ops+
    6.) Carson Bigbee (L) LF, CF, RF
    0hr 8rbi 238avg 278obp 43ops+
    7.) Johnny Gooch (B) C2
    0hr 30rbi 298avg 357obp 82ops+

    Starting Staff
    SP1. Eppa Rixey (L)
    21-11w/l 2.88era 142era+ 6.0war
    SP2. Ray Kremer (R)
    20-6w/l 2.61era 150era+ 5.8war
    SP3. Dolph Luque (R)
    16-18w/l 2.63era 156era+ 5.9war
    SP4. Emil Yde (L)
    16-3w/l 2.83era 136era+ 3.2war
    SP5. Lee Meadows (R)
    19-10w/l 3.67era 121era+ 3.6war

    Bullpen
    1.) Vic Aldridge (R)
    15-7w/l 3.63era 123era+
    2.) Johnny Morrison (R)
    17-14w/l 3.88era 115era+
    3.) Babe Adams (R)
    3-1w/l 1.13era 341era+
    4.) Tom Sheehan (R)
    1-1w/l 2.67era 167era+
    5.) Red Oldham (L)
    3-2w/l 3.91era 114era+
    Last edited by chicagowhitesox1173; 11-23-2012, 02:45 PM.

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  • John Shoemaker
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    1975 Oakland Athletics – Final Roster

    Transactions

    ADDED Hank Aaron (1975 Milwaukee Brewers) to replace Jim Holt
    ADDED Catfish Hunter (1974 Oakland Athletics) to replace Sonny Siebert
    ADDED Harmon Killebrew (1975 Kansas City Royals) to replace Tommy Harper
    ADDED Jim Palmer (1975 Baltimore Orioles) to replace Glenn Abbott
    ADDED Frank Robinson (1975 Cleveland Indians) to replace Angel Mangual
    ADDED Fred Lynn (1975 Boston Red Sox) to replace Jim Perry
    ADDED Willie McCovey (1976 Oakland Athletics) to replace Larry Haney

    Roster of Position Players

    Hank Aaron --------BA-.234 HR-12 RBI-60 BATS-RIGHT – LF
    Sal Bando ---------BA-.230 HR-15 RBI-78 BATS-RIGHT – 3B
    Bert Campaneris----BA-.265 HR-4 RBI-46 BATS-RIGHT – SS
    Ray Fosse--------- BA-.140 HR-0 RBI-12 BATS-RIGHT – C
    Phil Garner---------BA-246 HR-6 RBI-54 BATS-RIGHT – 2B
    Reggie Jackson---- BA-.253 HR-36 RBI-104 BATS-LEFT – RF
    Harmon Killebrew---BA-.199 HR-14 RBI-44 BATS-RIGHT – 1B
    Fred Lynn----------BA-.331 HR-21 RBI-105 BATS-LEFT – CF
    Ted Martinez-------BA-.172 HR-0 RBI-3 BATS-RIGHT – SS – 2B – 3B
    Willie McCovey-----BA-.208 HR-0 RBI-0 BATS-LEFT – PH
    Bill North-----------BA-.273 HR-1 RBI-43 BATS-BOTH – CF – LF
    Frank Robinson-----BA-.237 HR-9 RBI-24 BATS-RIGHT – PH
    Joe Rudi------------BA-.278 HR-21 RBI-75 BATS-RIGHT – 1B – LF
    Gene Tenace------ BA-.255 HR-29 RBI-87 BATS-RIGHT – C – 1B
    Claudell Washington-BA-.308 HR-10 RBI-77 BATS-LEFT – LF – CF – RF
    Billy Williams--------BA-.244 HR-23 RBI-81 BATS-LEFT – 1B

    Roster of Pitchers

    Vida Blue-----W/L 22-11 ERA-3.01 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-BOTH
    Stan Bahnsen-W/L 10-13 ERA-4.36 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Dick Bosman--W/L 11-6 ERA-.3.63 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Rollie Fingers--W/L 10-6 ERA-2.98 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Ken Holtzman-W/L 18-14 ERA-3.14 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-RIGHT
    Catfish Hunter-W/L 25-12 ERA-2.49 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Paul Lindblad--W/L 9-1 ERA-2.72 PITCHES-LEFT BATS-LEFT
    Jim Palmer---- W/L 23-11 ERA-2.09 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-RIGHT
    Jim Todd------W/L 8-3 ERA-2.29 PITCHES-RIGHT BATS-LEFT

    Starting Lineup against left handed starting pitcher

    Claudell Washington - LF
    Joe Rudi – 1B
    Fred Lynn – CF
    Reggie Jackson – RF
    Gene Tenace – C
    Sal Bando – 3B
    Phil Garner – 2B
    Bert Campaneris – SS
    (pitchers spot)

    Starting Lineup against right handed starting pitcher

    Claudell Washington – LF
    Fred Lynn – CF
    Gene Tenace – C
    Reggie Jackson – RF
    Sal Bando – 3B
    Billy Williams – 1B
    Phil Garner – 2B
    Bert Campaneris – SS
    (pitchers spot)

    Starting Pitching Rotation

    SP-Catfish Hunter
    SP-Jim Palmer
    SP-Vida Blue
    SP-Ken Holtzman

    Bullpen

    RP-Stan Bahnsen
    RP-Dick Bosman
    RP-Paul Linblad
    RP-Jim Todd
    CL-Rollie Fingers
    Last edited by John Shoemaker; 11-26-2012, 08:32 AM.

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