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  • 1968 All Star Voting

    --Greeting CKL owners. Please cast your ballot here for our 1968 All Stars. We will be selecting 30 players. Vote for 2 at each position, plus 2 wild card selections (a third person at 2 spots). Votes will be counted as 5 points for 1st team, 3 points for 2nd team and 1 point for getting a wild card nod. Vote for 8 SP. Please list them inorder as I'll be counting 8,7,6, etc. Vote for 4 relief pitchers (4.3.2.1). You've got a week to think things over and get these in. We've got 5 more days of games(15 total so we could see some change in the best candidates) til the break and then we'll have 3 days off in both CKL and real time 3/22-24). Deadline for submitting ballots is the 23rd.

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    --There are a number of potential vote getters who are playing somewhere other than their primary real life position for their CKL team. Please keep the following in mind when casting your ballot; Lee May LF not 1B, Felipe Alou LF not CF, Pete Rose 2B not RF, Willie Horton RF not LF, Ken Harrelson LF not RF, Carl Yastrzemski RF not LF, Vic Davalillo LF not RF, Rick Mondy LF not CF, Frank Robinson LF not RF and Dick Allen RF not LF.

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    • #3
      Knights candidates

      --Willie Mays leads all CFers in OBP, SLG, HR and RBI. The Knight's elder statesman still plays a VG CF too. The Sey Hey Kid is making a bid for his third MVP:gt. Billy Williams is another MVP contender. He leads all LF in HR and SLg and the league in RBI. Dick McAuliffe leads all 2B in virtually every offensive category. Jim Fregosi is amoung the leaders in all offensive categories at SS,although he is first only in runs (and I couldn't put him ahead of Gen Alley at this point). I probably couldn;t justify voting for him but catcher Elston Howard has a line of 418/465/747 in about 100 PA.
      --The pitching is less inspiring. Sonny Seibert is 9-4 with a 2.26 ERA and should make it. Relievers Eddie Watt, Bobby Bolin and Fred Lasher could be candidates if they get hot.

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      • #4
        -There are a number of potential vote getters who are playing somewhere other than their primary real life position for their CKL team.
        Yet another good reason to obtain the Diamond Mind game! When voting for my all star selections, I simply choose the option of minimum X games played at a position, set the position I want to select as the option, and DM gives a report of all players who have started X games at the position. Then on to the next position (chosen from a drop down list of positions). So quick and easy!
        You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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        • #5
          Originally posted by leecemark View Post
          --Greeting CKL owners. Please cast your ballot here for our 1968 All Stars. We will be selecting 30 players. Vote for 2 at each position, plus 2 wild card selections (a third person at 2 spots). Votes will be counted as 5 points for 1st team, 3 points for 2nd team and 1 point for getting a wild card nod. Vote for 8 SP. Please list them inorder as I'll be counting 8,7,6, etc. Vote for 4 relief pitchers (4.3.2.1). You've got a week to think things over and get these in. We've got 5 more days of games(15 total so we could see some change in the best candidates) til the break and then we'll have 3 days off in both CKL and real time 3/22-24). Deadline for submitting ballots is the 23rd.
          Guys...unless there is a serious objection, I would like to abstain on the All Star voting...still trying to find my way to to the clubhouse and I don't think I am well-versed enough to cast an informed and well-considered ballot.


          "I want all of you rookies to line up in alphabetical order by height." Casey Stengel

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          • #6
            Legends All Star Possibilities

            Here are the Legends players that I feel are deserving of all star berths. I have not listed anyone from my roster that I don't intend to vote for.

            Bill Freehan, catcher: Other than Howard (111 PA) and Dietz (107 PA), Freehan has the highest OPS of any catcher (843), and has 366 PA. He leads all regular catchers in HR, runs, RBI, and slugging. He also has played stellar defense, throwing out 49% of stolen base attempts.

            Willie McCovey, first base: Second in AB among first basemen. Leads in HR, Runs, RBI, slugging; second in OBP.

            Hank Aaron, RF: Even with Yaz having another great season, Aaron is a bit better. He's first in OPS and runs, second in HR and RBI, first in SB, and is playing a great RF.

            Luis Tiant, SP: 12-4 record, sixth in ERA among starters, best WHIP among starters, first in strikeouts.

            Fergie Jenkins, SP: 11-6 record, seventh in ERA, 1.02 WHIP, leads league in innings pitched.
            You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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            • #7
              Guys...unless there is a serious objection, I would like to abstain on the All Star voting...still trying to find my way to to the clubhouse and I don't think I am well-versed enough to cast an informed and well-considered ballot.
              I don't have any objection, Joe. But feel free to vote anyway if you want. You can just load in the DB and go on the stats if you want. Heck, that's what the voters do in real life!
              You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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              • #8
                --There is no requirement to vote Joe. But as Lew says - being well informed is generally not a prerequistite for voting either.

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                • #9
                  Sigh... if only there was a way to sort the stats on the text reports (or the website) by position. Would make this a whole lot easier.

                  C: Jerry Grote, Bill Freehan
                  1B: Willie McCovey, Mickey Mantle
                  2B: Dick McAuliffe, Davey Johnson
                  3B: Mike Shannon, Jim Ray Hart (Ward doesn't play enough)
                  SS: Gene Alley, Jim Fregosi
                  LF: Frank Robinson, Billy Williams
                  CF: Jimmy Wynn, Willie Mays
                  RF: Hank Aaron, Carl Yastrzemski, Dick Allen, Tony Oliva

                  SP: Sam McDowell, Luis Tiant, Dean Chance, Dave McNally, Fergie Jenkins, Tom Seaver, Sonny Siebert, Bob Gibson

                  RP: Clay Carroll, Jim Perry, Ron Kline, Steve Hamilton


                  A bit tough to judge the relievers, as really the only stats available are save-based.
                  Last edited by Erik Bedard; 03-20-2008, 04:14 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by leecemark View Post
                    --There is no requirement to vote Joe. But as Lew says - being well informed is generally not a prerequistite for voting either.
                    Mark says that because they let me vote every year...
                    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                    • #11
                      --Dan, the team pitching reports are the best way to go for reviewing relievers. Or starters for that matter.

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                      • #12
                        That's what I ended up doing for most of my ballot. Just a little hard to compare without looking at the leaders in ERA or whatever for relievers.

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                        • #13
                          do I have no all stars?

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                          • #14
                            --I always put somebody from each team on my ballot. The Gamblers haven't made that easy this year though:noidea. I was leanign toward Mel Stottlemyre, but he got bombed in his last start and drove his ERA over 4. I'll probably go with Pete Ward now. He has missed half the season, but his rates are great and there aren't alot of compelling candidates at 3B.
                            --The other cellar dwellers offer better options. The Angels have two starting pitchers who could make it strictly on merit - Dave McNally and Milt Pappas, although I'll probably vote for only one of them. The Badgers have LFer Cleon Jones and SP Woody Fryman. Neither are exactly a lock, but you could vote for either even without considering their place as team token.
                            --The surprise for me maybe only having one candidate from the first place Hard Cider. Tom Haller is having a terrific season, but Freehan and maybe Grote could edge him out. Dick Allen and Norm Cash have a shot also, but neither is a sure thing.

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                            • #15
                              --Dan, a few of your outfielders are out of alignment (including 2 of your own). Wynn has been in CF all year. Alou has been in LF. Billy Williams has been playing LF for me all year.

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