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  • 1979-80 Offseason Thread

    --Welcome to the 20th season of CKL baseball! This is the timeline for offseason activities leading up to the 1980 season;

    Trades may be made effective immediately

    Friday, February 10 (9PM EST): non-tender and HTD bids deadline. Please get your preliminary roster and salaries posted by this date also.
    Monday, February 13 (9PM EST): deadline for topping HTD Bids
    Monday, February 13 (9:01 PM EST): Rookie draft begins
    Friday, February 24 (9 PM EST): Rookie draft ends
    Friday, February 24 (9:01 PM EST): free agent bidding begins
    Monday, February 27 (8PM EST): first bid list posted
    Monday, February 27 (9PM EST): 250K bid phase begins
    Tuesday, February 28 (8PM EST): first phase signings announced
    Tuesday, February 28 (9PM EST): 500K bid phase begins
    Wednesday, February 29 (8 PM EST): second phase signings announced
    Wednesday, February 29 (9PM EST): 1M bid phase begins
    Friday, March 02 (8PM EST): fourth phase signings anounced
    Friday, March 02 (9PM EST): live bidding on any free agents still active
    Friday, March 02 (10PM EST): free signing period for any team under 40
    Saturday, March 03 (9PM EST): cut down deadline to 40 for any team over
    Monday, March 05 (midnight EST): all teams must be at 40 or take cap penalty for vacant roster spaces
    Thursday, March 08 (midnight EST): deadline for submitting Opening Day profile
    Saturday, March 10: Opening Day
    Last edited by leecemark; 02-03-2012, 04:21 PM.

  • #2
    1980 Rookie Draft

    1st Round
    1) Gold Sox
    2) Legends
    3) Boys
    4) Badgers
    5) Blues
    6) Iron
    7) Dust Bunnies from Angels
    8) Hard Cider
    9) Beavers
    10) Gamblers
    11) Skipjacks
    12) Badgers from Thunder
    13) Jaxx
    14) Corsairs
    15) Knights
    16) Angels from Dust Bunnies

    2nd Round
    17) Gold Sox
    18) Badgers
    19) Boys (formerly Spikes)
    20) Hard Cider
    21) Iron
    22) Angels
    23) Blues
    24) Legends from Beavers
    25) Legends
    26) Gamblers
    27) Hard Cider from Skipjacks
    28) Jaxx from Thunder
    29) Jaxx
    30) Gamblers from Corsairs
    31) Knights
    32) Dust Bunnies

    3rd Round
    33) Gold Sox
    34) Badgers
    35) Boys (formerly Spikes)
    36) Hard Cider
    37) Hard Cider from Iron
    38) Dust Bunnies from Angels
    39) Blues
    40) Beavers
    41) Legends
    42) Gamblers
    43) Skipjacks
    44) Angels from Thunder
    45) Jaxx
    46) Corsairs
    47) Knights
    48) Hard Cider from Dust Bunnies

    4th Round
    49) Gold Sox
    50) Dust Bunnies from Badgers
    51) Skipjacks from Boys (formerly Spikes)
    52) Hard Cider
    53) Iron
    54) Dust Bunnies from Angels
    55) Dust Bunnies from Blues
    56) Beavers
    57) Blues from Legends
    58) Gamblers
    59) Skipjacks
    60) Thunder
    61) Jaxx
    62) Gold Sox from Corsairs
    63) Iron from Knights
    64 Gamblers from Dust Bunnies

    Supplemental Round
    65) Dust Bunnies from Hard Cider
    Last edited by leecemark; 02-05-2012, 09:35 PM.

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    • #3
      Hometown Discount Bids

      Corsairs HTD bids
      Fred Lynn: 1yr/15.0 (18.0 to top)
      Bill Madlock: 4yr/9.0 (11.0 to top)
      Bill Russell: 3yr/1.5 (2.0 to top)
      Ed Ott: 1yr/1.5 (2.0 to top)
      Knights HTD bid
      Art Howe: 2yr/2.0 (2.5 to top)
      Badgers HTD bid
      Greg Luzink: 4yr/8.0 (9.75 to top)
      Beavers HTD bid
      Bill Castro: 1yr/2.5 (3.0 to top)
      Gamblers HTD bids
      Dan Spillner: 3yr/1.25M (1,50 to top)
      Vern Ruhle: 2yr/6.50 (7.75 to top)
      Gold Sox
      Miguel Dilone: 1yr/5.25 (6.50 to top)
      Legends HTD
      Jim Sundberg: 2yr/6.75 (8.25 to top)
      Lamar Johnson: 1yr/4.0 (5.0 to top)
      Alan Bannister: 3yr/1,50 (2.0 to top)
      Jaxx HTD
      Tippy Martinez: 4yr/6.0 (7.25 to top)
      Last edited by leecemark; 02-03-2012, 03:57 PM.

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      • #4
        Before the Rookie draft begins, I urge you all to look at the TIDP for at least 1980 to be sure that your records agree with the data posted. Please let me know of any discrepancies so that we can get a corrected report for Mark to use as he posts the draft order. Thanks.

        Jack
        Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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        • #5
          FA bidding

          Mark,

          Looking at the off season schedule, I don't believe we have a CFA bid range of .75M. Aren't they .25M, .50M and 1.0M increments?

          Jack
          Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dust bunnies
            The Dust Bunnies trade Dan Schatzeder to the Angels.
            The Angels trade Tim Corcoran and Ron Pruitt to the Dust Bunnies.
            Garry, please confirm.

            Jack
            We confirm this trade!
            My dream ballpark dimensions
            LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
            RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
            Location....San Diego

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            • #7
              Thanks to everyone who welcomed me aboard. I'm looking forward to this league. It looks challenging but that's what will make it fun. I do have a few questions regarding roster moves and the rules in general:

              1. I assume every player whose contract period ended in 79 is eligible for free agency. Players originally drafted by my team qualify for the HTD in the upcoming FA process. Is that right?
              2. Can a player's new contract offer be lower than the last contract that is expiring?
              3. In the FA process, if a FA (non-HTD) is offered a contract of $3M for 3 years by one team and $2.5M for 4 years by a second team, which offer is higher? What if they are both for $3M for 3 years and 4 years?
              4. Can my team be moved and, if so, is there a limit on my stadium choice?
              5. Do the Spikes have a franchise player from the 70's? If not, is it too late to name one now? I see that Rickey Henderson was drafted in '79. The end of his 4th season would be 1982 and I think this is when he would be eligible to be named a franchise player. Would he qualify as a franchise player for the 70's (when he was drafted) or the 80's (when he is eligible)?
              6. I think I have the '79 roster of the Spikes figured out. I can post what I have now if anyone wants to review it to see if it looks right.

              Thanks for having me. I looking forward to getting this franchise turned around.

              Dan
              Dan
              CKL - Maloy Boys
              P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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              • #8
                Please review this for accuracy and to confirm that the information is what you are looking for. I am a little uncertain about the draft picks traded to or from the Spikes. This info is based on what I could find from going through the various threads. Once we believe it is all here, I'll post it to the Roster thread.

                Maloy Boys Roster 1980 Pre-Season

                Pos Name Acquired Salary Contract Begin Contract End HTD/Franchise
                C Butch Wynegar Draft $1,500,000 1976 - 1981
                1B Bill Buckner FA $1,500,000 1978 - 1980
                1B Enos Cabell FA $750,000 1979 - 1980 HTD
                2B Rob Picciolo Draft $250,000 1977 - 1982
                3B Buddy Bell FA $15,000,000 1978 - 1982 HTD
                SS Bert Campaneris FA $250,000 1978 - 1980
                SS Johnnie LeMaster Draft $250,000 1975 - 1980
                SS Dickie Thon Draft $1,500,000 1979 - 1984
                OF Rickey Henderson Draft $3,000,000 1979 - 1984
                OF Steve Henderson Draft $1,500,000 1977 - 1982
                OF Hal McRae FA $3,500,000 1978 - 1980
                OF Dwight Evans FA $10,750,000 1978 - 1982
                OF Larry Harlow Draft $250,000 1975 - 1980
                P Don Aase Draft $750,000 1977 - 1982
                P Bert Blyleven FA $18,000,000 1976 - 1980 HTD
                P Chris Knapp Draft $250,000 1975 - 1980
                P Steve McCatty Draft $750,000 1977 - 1982
                P Larry McWilliams Draft $1,500,000 1978 - 1983
                P Paul Mitchell FA $750,000 1978 - 1980
                P Frank Tanana FA $4,000,000 1979 - 1981 HTD
                P Dave Righetti Draft $2,500,000 1979 - 1984
                P Bob Babcock Draft $250,000 1979 - 1984
                P Bill Caudill Draft $1,000,000 1979 - 1984
                P Rob Dressler Draft $250,000 1975 - 1980
                P George Frazier Draft $750,000 1978 - 1983
                P Don Hood FA $4,000,000 1979 - 1980 HTD
                P Randy Moffitt FA $250,000 1979 - 1981 HTD
                P Pete Ladd Draft $500,000 1979 - 1984

                Players under contract 28 $75,500,000

                Retired Players
                C Mike Colbern
                P Jim Hunter
                P Doc Ellis

                HTD Eligible Free Agents
                2B Junior Kennedy
                OF Elliott Maddox
                P Bob Forsch

                Free Agents
                C Marc Hill
                C Buck Martinez
                3B Ted Cox
                P Mark Lee

                Non-Tenders
                none

                Draft Picks Traded To Year Round
                Skipjacks 1980 4th
                Hard Ciders 1981 3rd
                Sockeyes 1981 4th
                Hard Ciders 1982 3rd

                Draft Picks Traded From Year Round
                none?
                Last edited by scubadan; 01-30-2012, 08:46 AM.
                Dan
                CKL - Maloy Boys
                P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by scubadan
                  I would like my team to be moved to Comerica Park and I would like to change the team name to the Maloy Boys.
                  Dan,

                  I don't think Comerica Park existed in 1980. So I don't think you can use it. I may be wrong.

                  I have a complete list (Hope it's accurate) of Spikes roster. I'll check it against what you posted. I had assumed you had been given a roster. I could have sent you my file to save you a bunch of work.

                  Jack

                  Jack
                  Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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                  • #10
                    Dan,

                    Going through your listing, I noticed one misunderstanding. HTD are only available to rookies who you initially signed asa rookie. Therefore, any FA is not eligible. Buddy Bell, for example, was not signed by the Spikes as a rookie in 1978. He was a FA from 1978-1982. Bell was a rookie in 1972. Therefore Buddy Bell is not eligible for a HTD Discount. He will be on your roster at the current salary until the end of the 1982 season. Cabell and several others are incorrectly listed as well. In summary, only rookies the Spikes signed in 1974 are eligible for an HTD discount for the 1980 season.

                    Jack
                    Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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                    • #11
                      Dan,

                      Except for your HTD misunderstandings mentioned above, your roster posting is the same as mine. Excellent job getting set up Jack
                      Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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                      • #12
                        Sorry, I misunderstood. I'll play in Metropolitan Stadium.
                        Dan
                        CKL - Maloy Boys
                        P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dust bunnies View Post
                          Dan,

                          Going through your listing, I noticed one misunderstanding. HTD are only available to rookies who you initially signed asa rookie. Therefore, any FA is not eligible. Buddy Bell, for example, was not signed by the Spikes as a rookie in 1978. He was a FA from 1978-1982. Bell was a rookie in 1972. Therefore Buddy Bell is not eligible for a HTD Discount. He will be on your roster at the current salary until the end of the 1982 season. Cabell and several others are incorrectly listed as well. In summary, only rookies the Spikes signed in 1974 are eligible for an HTD discount for the 1980 season.

                          Jack
                          That's not exactly correct, Jack. IF the Spikes had originally drafted Bell in 1972, and then resigned him via a HTD contract, he would be eligible for another HTD contract. That's how the Legends have resigned Fergie Jenkins twice at a discount. Since Bell was originally signed by the Urracas (now the Blues) he is not eligible for the HTD. That rule however actually WILL affect Bert Blyleven after 1980. He was originally signed by the Brawlers as a rookie in 1970, was resigned via HTD from 76 to 80, and will be HTD eligible again after this season because he was in fact an original Spikes/Brawlers/Boys rookie. Hope that is as clear as mud....
                          You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dust bunnies View Post
                            Dan,

                            Going through your listing, I noticed one misunderstanding. HTD are only available to rookies who you initially signed asa rookie. Therefore, any FA is not eligible. Buddy Bell, for example, was not signed by the Spikes as a rookie in 1978. He was a FA from 1978-1982. Bell was a rookie in 1972. Therefore Buddy Bell is not eligible for a HTD Discount. He will be on your roster at the current salary until the end of the 1982 season. Cabell and several others are incorrectly listed as well. In summary, only rookies the Spikes signed in 1974 are eligible for an HTD discount for the 1980 season.

                            Jack
                            Jack,

                            Cabell and Moffitt were both rookies drafted by the Spikes in 1972. Hood and Tanana were both rookies drafted by the Spikes in 1973. I believe all of these players were signed as free agents under the HTD rule by the Spikes. Wouldn't they qualify still for the HTD discount when their HTD FA contract expires?

                            Blyleven was signed in 1970 as a rookie by the Brawlers (who no longer exist). If the Brawlers became the Spikes and Blyleven was signed as a HTD FA, would he still qualify as a HTD FA again when his contract expires?

                            Bell was signed as a FA from Urracas (whoever they are now) and I agree he would not qualify for the HTD when his contract expires.

                            Dan
                            Dan
                            CKL - Maloy Boys
                            P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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                            • #15
                              Legends Roster Moves

                              The Legends make the following roster moves:

                              Free Agents
                              Alan Bannister (HTD eligible)
                              Kurt Bevacqua
                              Jack Billingham
                              Tom Buskey
                              Lamar Johnson (HTD eligible)
                              Skip Lockwood
                              Milt May
                              Tim McCarver
                              John Milner
                              bobby Murcer
                              Bob Stinson
                              Jim Sundberg (HTD eligible)
                              Terry Whitfield

                              Non-Tendered
                              Dave Frost

                              Retired
                              Teddy Martinez

                              Current Roster (25 Players @ 67.5M)

                              STARTERS
                              C: #Alan Ashby 2.75M 1979 HTDFA 79-81
                              1B: Jason Thompson* 2.5M 1976 Rookie 76-81
                              2B: Ken Oberkfell* 1M 1977 Rookie 77-82
                              3B: Paul Molitor 3M 1978 Rookie 78-83
                              SS: #Ozzie Smith 2M 1978 Rookie 78-83
                              LF: Terry Puhl* 2M 1977 Rookie 77-82
                              CF:Ken Griffey* 8M 1979 HTDFA 79-83
                              RF: Dan Ford 2.5M 1975 Rookie 75-80
                              DH:Wayne Nordhagen 1M 1976 Rookie 76-81
                              BENCH
                              OF: Elliott Maddox 250K 1979 FA 2 Years 79-80
                              OF: Barry Bonnell 250K 1977 Rookie 77-82

                              STARTING PITCHERS
                              SP: Jack Morris 2.5M 1977 Rookie 77-82
                              SP: Fergie Jenkins 8M 1979 HTDFA 79-83
                              SP: Jim Clancy 750K 1977 Rookie 77-82
                              SP: Burt Hooton 16.5M 1977 FA (HTD) 5 years 77-81
                              SP: Rick Langford 1.5M 1976 Rookie 76-81
                              BULLPEN
                              P: Reggie Cleveland 500K 1979 FA 2 Years 79-80
                              P: Victor Cruz 750K 1978 Rookie 78-83
                              P: Jeff Reardon 2M 1979 Rookie 79-84
                              P: Elias Sosa 6M 1978 HTDFA 3 Years 78-80
                              P: Jerry Garvin 500K 1977 Rookie 77-82 (via trade with Dust Bunnies)

                              MINOR LEAGUES

                              SP: *Bob Knepper 1.5M 1976 Rookie 76-81 (via trade)
                              P: Rick Rhoden 750K 1979 FA 2 Years 79-80
                              P: Tom Tellmann 750K 1979 Rookie 79-84 (Trade)
                              P: Sandy Wihtol 250K 1979 Rookie 79-84
                              You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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