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  • #91
    --I don't see 2 CF - or even one on the board who came close to a first round grade from me. Moseby I had as a 1st rounder and he did go high. Wilson I had as a 2nd rounder and he is also gone. I have one other Cf rated as a low 2nd rounder thats left on the board, but I still have a pick in the 2nd and he isn't going to be it. The other CF is either somebody who Garry has rated ALOT higher than me or somebody I'm not thinking of a a CF - and still rated way higher than me. There is nobody left I thought of as 1st round material or even close to it.

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    • #92
      --The Knight select 3B Luis Salazar. We still have a fair number of players on our draft board and will make the same offer here we did at the end of the 2nd. If you'd prefer a future 3rd than making your selection in the early 3rd of this one the Knights are ready to deal.

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      • #93
        Salazar was next on my list also. Badgers will take SS - Rafael Ramirez. On a side note, Badgers are looking to move either Larry Bowa or Bucky Dent. Both signed through 1981. Bowa at 1.000, Dent at .500. Especially for you, Gamblers

        1980 stats - Bowa - 577 PA, 622 OPS, FR/70 at SS
        1981 stats - Bowa - 391 PA, 670 OPS, FR/70 at SS
        1980 stats - Dent - 553 PA, 681 OPS, VG/51 at SS
        1981 stats - Dent - 258 PA, 679 OPS, AV/84 at SS

        PM if interested.
        Ed
        There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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        • #94
          Really wanted Ramirez. With him gone, I'll just take the best player available, Mike Davis. There's one more guy I really want and I'll trade a future 3rd for the next pick in this draft for as long as he's available.

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          • #95
            good pick on davis. rameriz i totally missed on my scouting reports. somebody always seems to slip thru the cracks, although rr wouldn't have fit my needs anyway.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
              Really wanted Ramirez. With him gone, I'll just take the best player available, Mike Davis. There's one more guy I really want and I'll trade a future 3rd for the next pick in this draft for as long as he's available.
              Had him #11 on our draftboard. Good season in '83 and an excellent season in '85. Also useful in '84. He played more games in RF but also spent a fair amount of time in CF.
              My dream ballpark dimensions
              LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
              RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
              Location....San Diego

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Sockeye View Post
                Had him #11 on our draftboard. Good season in '83 and an excellent season in '85. Also useful in '84. He played more games in RF but also spent a fair amount of time in CF.
                Ah, there's the difference. I don't believe I have EVER rated anyone in my first round group (could be mistaken on that) when their first really useful season is the fourth under team control, especially when the only really good season is the sixth. Davis would have been at most a very low second or a third round choice for me. Simply too many things can happen in those intervening seasons. I would rate someone as a low first or high second if their useful seasons came on the front end of team control. But for me to rate a guy as a first rounder, he has to have 4+ useful seasons, and preferably some really standout years as well. Again, though, that's what makes it interesting - seeing how different guys value different things.

                Salazar would have been my pick for the Jaxx the last time if he had provided more than one really good season, and I nearly took him anyway, but since there was a pitcher left with four useful seasons I decided on the pitcher. Ramirez I had on my board but didn't really fit a need, since the Jaxx have Trammell and the Legends have Ozzie.
                Last edited by catcher24; 02-19-2012, 07:37 AM.
                You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                • #98
                  Badgers next pick is available !!! Can combine with spare SS and/or spare SP. I have till 8:49 tonight but would like to not hold draft up too long. Bowa, Dent, Barker, LaCoss, Shirley, Robinson and Heaverlo are all available. Looking for draft picks in '81-'82 and inprovement on current roster. Can include other players in the deal if you can upgrade me at their position.

                  Ed
                  There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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                  • #99
                    In my grading sytem;
                    A+ = franchise quality player or GREAT player for most of team control
                    --there were no A+ in this draft
                    A = starter for most of team control with at least a couple All Star seasons or an MVP/CYA quality season
                    --Valenzuala was my only A this year
                    A- = some combination of solid starter for most of team control, several All Star quality seasons or an MVP/CYA caliber season
                    --Durham, Baines and Pena graded out here this year
                    --that is the cut off line for happy to draft in the first half of first round, although obviously I would have had to be content with a little less this year
                    B+ = solid starter for most of team control or a couple All Star level seasons or an MVP/CYA season in the first half of their team control
                    --these are the guys I'd be happy with in the 2nd half of the 1st and delighted with in the 2nd. I had a dozen of these this year. The top level talent was lacking, but I really like the depth at the 2nd tier.
                    B = solid 2nd rounder; I had close to a dozen more of these.
                    B- = willing to reach into 2nd to fill a need or happy to grab in the 3rd
                    C+ = still willing t reach into late 2nd if they REALLY fill a need and still happy to have in 3rd.
                    C = acceptable 3rd round and happy to get in 4th
                    C- = acceptable in 3rd as they have several usefull or one good season
                    D+ = contributes enough that I'm happy to draft in 4th
                    D = contributor in at least one season, but probably no starting quality seasons. Will take in 4th if thats the best left.
                    D- = if they are best available and I have roster spots to burn then ok, but I am not really expecting to ever use them

                    my ratings for my picks this year
                    Gedman B+
                    Boddicker B+
                    Berenyi B-
                    Lefebvre B
                    Salazar B
                    --so I'm pretty happy with what I've got and still hope to add another B- or C+ for each team - of you guys are generous enough to let me trade up or have one of those slip to the end of the 3rd

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                    • with basically the same grading scale as Mark, I had Durham as an A, Baines as an A-, and Pena as a B+. for my three picks so far:

                      Durham A
                      Lea B+
                      Davis B

                      I had Durham #1 on my board, Lea #10, and Davis #15. Ramirez was #30 but I would have taken him over Davis because he would have filled a huge need. I still have four guys rated B-, one of whom fills a need and who I'd trade for, the other three I'll just have to hope drop. All my C+ guys are gone save one, though, as are several Cs.

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                      • You guys do far more with grading than I do. I basically look at (1) how many full or at least platoon level seasons does the player have under team control; (2) how many seasons are good (based on OPS+ for batters/ERA+ and WHIP for pitchers), very good, great or off the charts (extra bonus for one of these!) (3) team need; (4) possibility of the player being a FP or a good HTD candidate. If tow guys are pretty similar in other respects, then I'll take the better fielder. When my pick comes I then look at who is left and decide. Not nearly as scientific as you guys, but it seems to work for me. Or maybe not, since I haven't won a league title in a long time now.
                        You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                        • --We were very close on Durham and Lea who I had 2 and 11. Davis I had as a B- though. I only number through whereever I pick in the first so that was 15 guys this year. After that I readjust based on need. Of my top 15 only one slipped out of the first and not very far. I had Luis Leal #15 and he went #19.

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                          • Originally posted by catcher24 View Post
                            You guys do far more with grading than I do. I basically look at (1) how many full or at least platoon level seasons does the player have under team control; (2) how many seasons are good (based on OPS+ for batters/ERA+ and WHIP for pitchers), very good, great or off the charts (extra bonus for one of these!) (3) team need; (4) possibility of the player being a FP or a good HTD candidate. If tow guys are pretty similar in other respects, then I'll take the better fielder. When my pick comes I then look at who is left and decide. Not nearly as scientific as you guys, but it seems to work for me. Or maybe not, since I haven't won a league title in a long time now.
                            --My drought is alot longer than yours . I maange to put a good team on the field every year, but like Billy Beane my #### apparently doesn't work in the playoffs. Hope it doesn't stop working in the regular season like his has . Of course, I don't have to worry about my division rivals outspending me 2-1 or more like the A's.

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                            • Lea went with the first pick in the second round (to me).

                              The only guys I had ranked as first-round picks who dropped were Lea (#10, went #17), Perez (#11, went #22), Scioscia (#14, went #18), and Davis (#15, went #33). I managed to get two of them so that was great.

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                              • The upcoming Hard Cider pick is available for a future 3rd if anyone is interested let me know.

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