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  • #16
    The Thunder

    Rotation:
    SP Moose Haas (76 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    SP Tom Griffin (81, FA 3.0 Million)
    SP Tommy Boggs (76 Draft, 500K)
    SP Rick Rhoden (FA 81 to 84, 5.5 Million)
    SP Steve Mura (78 Draft, 250K)

    Bullpen:
    RP Al Holland (77 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    RP Donnie Moore (FA 81 to 83, 2.25 Million)
    RP Aurelio Lopez (80 to 81 FA, 2.0 Million)
    RP Larry Andersen (FA 81 to 82, 3.5 Million)
    RP Brian Allard (FA 80 to 81, 250K)

    Starting Lineup:
    C Ron Hassey (78 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    1B Pete Rose (FA 81, 1.25 Million)
    2B Willie Randolph (FA 81 to 84, 6.0 Million)
    SS Tim Foli (FA 81, 500K)
    3B Enos Cabell (FA 81 to 83, 1.25 Million)
    LF Al Woods (FA 81, 250K)
    CF Fred Lynn (FA 81, 3.0 Million)
    RF
    DH Jack Clark (FA 81 to 85, 13.0 Million)

    Bench:
    C
    IF
    IF Bert Campaneris (FA 81, 500K)
    OF John Lowenstein (FA 79 to 81 4.0 Million)
    OF Denny Walling (FA 81 to 83, 500K)
    OF Al Bumbry (FA 81, 1.25)

    Farmhands:
    RP Bob James (78 Draft, 250K)
    SP Juan Berenguer (78 Draft, 500K)
    RP Joe Beckwith (79 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    IF Wayne Krenechi (79 Draft, 500K)
    C Bob Kearney (79 Draft, 250K)
    CF Brett Butler (81 Draft, 1.5 Million)
    SP Bud Black (81 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    SP Atlee Hammeker (81 Draft, 1.0 Million)
    RP Tom Gorman (81 Draft, 500K)
    SS Frank Taveras (81 FA, 250K)
    P Pat Zachary (FA 81 to 83, 500K)
    David Palmer (Draft, 1.0 Million)

    59.5 Million for 33

    Free Agents
    Phil Niekro
    Dennis Eckersley
    Willie Randolph (HTD)
    Roy Smalley
    Ben Oglivie
    Jack Clark (HTD)
    Cliff Johnson
    Bud Harrelson
    Johnny Grubb
    Larry Hisle
    Denny Walling
    Luis Tiant
    Donnie Moore (HTD)
    Larry Andersen (HTD)

    Non Tendered
    Paul Moskau
    Pat Underwood
    Last edited by Windy City Fan; 07-13-2012, 07:00 PM.
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
    - Sammy Sosa

    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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    • #17
      Tyrants

      Rotation:
      SP Gaylord Perry (FA 81 to 82, 1.25 Million)
      SP
      SP Dan Schatzeder (FA 81 to 83, 500K)
      SP Rick Sutcliffe (FA 80 to 82, 5.75 Million)
      SP Jackson Todd (FA to 81, 250K)

      Bullpen:
      RP Neil Allen (79 Draft, 750K)
      RP Shane Rawley (78 Draft, 1.0 Million)
      RP Dave Stewart (78 Draft, 250K)
      RP Willie Hernandez (77 Draft, 1.0 Million)
      RP Doug Bair (76 Draft 500K)

      Lineup:
      C Terry Kennedy (78 Draft, 2.5 Million)
      1B Bruce Bochte (FA 81 to 82, 2.0 Million)
      2B Frank White (FA to 81, 2.5 Million)
      SS Robin Yount (Franchise Player 12.0 Million)
      3B Butch Hobson (FA 81, 500K)
      LF Oscar Gamble (FA 80 to 82, 6.5 Million)
      CF Kirk Gibson (79 Draft, 2.5 Million)
      RF Sixto Lezcano (FA 80 to 82, 10.0 Million)
      DH Andre Thornton (FA 80 to 82, 5.0 Million)

      Bench
      C Alex Trevino (78 Draft, 250K)
      IF Duane Kuiper (FA 80 to 82, 250K)
      IF Davey Lopes (FA 81 to 83, 6.25 Million)
      OF Larry Herndon (FA to 81, 2.0 Million)
      OF Lou Pinnella (FA 81 to 82, 2.0 Million)
      OF Joel Youngblood (76 Draft, 1.0 Million)

      FARM
      SP Manny Sarmiento (FA 80 to 82, 3.25 Million)
      RP Dale Murray (FA 80 to 82, 2.0 Million)
      OF Jerry Hairston (FA 81 to 83, 500K)
      1B Dennis Werth (79 Draft, 250K)
      RP George Frazier (79 Draft, 750K)
      CF Lloyd Moseby (80 Draft, 2.5 Million)
      IF Vance Law (80 Draft, 1.0 Million)
      1B Ken Phelps (80 Draft, 500K)
      SP Ken Schrom (80 Draft, 250K)
      SP Mike Boddicker (80 Draft, 1.5 Million)
      2B Ryne Sandberg (81 Draft, 3.0 Million)
      SP Alejandro Pena (81 Draft 2.0 Million)
      C Bob Brenly (81 Draft, 1.0 Million)
      RP Ted Power (81 Draft, 750K)
      SS Scott Fletcher (81 Draft, 500K)
      RP Dave Rucker (81 Draft, 250K)
      OF Jim Norris (77 Draft, 500K)
      OF Hal McRae (FA 81 to 82, 5.75)

      92.75 for 42 players

      Free Agents
      Rick Waits
      Tom Hausman
      Dave Heaverlo
      John Wockenfuss
      Willie Montanez
      Larry Parrish
      Pete Rose
      Doug Flynn
      Ken Reitz
      Bobby Murcer
      Brian Asselstine

      Non Tendered
      Rick Matula
      Last edited by Windy City Fan; 07-13-2012, 08:04 PM.
      "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
      - Sammy Sosa

      "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
      - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

      Comment


      • #18
        Legends drops/roster

        Free Agents

        Todd Cruz
        Miguel Dilone
        John Flinn
        Dan Ford (HTD Eligible)
        Lamar Johnson
        Pete Mackanin
        Jerry Martin
        Eddie Solomon
        Harry Spilman

        Retired

        Jim Lentine
        Elliott Maddox
        Kim Seaman
        John Tamargo

        STARTERS
        C: #Alan Ashby 2.75M 1979 HTDFA 79-81
        1B: Jason Thompson* 2.5M 1976 Rookie 76-81
        2B: Ken Oberkfell* 1M 1977 Rookie 77-82
        3B: Wayne Nordhagen 1M 1976 Rookie 76-81
        SS: #Ozzie Smith 2M 1978 Rookie 78-83
        LF: Paul Molitor 3M 1978 Rookie 78-83
        CF: Terry Puhl* 2M 1977 Rookie 77-82
        RF: Ken Griffey* 8M 1979 HTDFA 79-83
        DH: Dave Kingman 3M 1980 FA 2 Years 80-81
        BENCH
        C: Charlie Moore 1.75M 1980 FA 2 Years 80-81
        OF: Barry Bonnell 250K 1977 Rookie 77-82

        STARTING PITCHERS
        SP: Jack Morris 2.5M 1977 Rookie 77-82
        SP: Fergie Jenkins 8M 1979 HTDFA 79-83
        SP: *Fernando Valenzuela 3M 1980 Rookie 80-85
        SP: Burt Hooton 16.5M 1977 FA (HTD) 5 years 77-81
        SP: *Bob Knepper 1.5M 1976 Rookie 76-81 (via trade)
        BULLPEN
        P: Jim Clancy 750K 1977 Rookie 77-82
        P: Victor Cruz 750K 1978 Rookie 78-83
        P: Jeff Reardon 2M 1979 Rookie 79-84
        P: Jerry Garvin 500K 1977 Rookie 77-82 (via trade with Dust Bunnies)
        P: Silvio Martinez 250K 1980 FA 2 Years 80-81

        MINOR LEAGUES
        C: Ozzie Virgil 500K 1980 Rookie 80-85
        C: Jim Essian 250K 1980 FA 3 Years 80-82
        P: *Terry Forster 250K 1980 FA 3 Years 80-82
        P: Tom Tellmann 750K 1979 Rookie 79-84 (Trade)
        P: Sandy Wihtol 250K 1979 Rookie 79-84

        TOTAL SALARY = 65M for 26 Players
        You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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        • #19
          Lumberjaxx Drops/Roster

          Free Agents

          Jim Anderson
          Stan Bahnsen
          Randy Bass
          Bruce Bochte
          Rick Cerone
          Dave Collins (HTD Eligible)
          John Milner
          Jamie Quirk
          Bill Robinson
          Dick Tidrow
          Tom Underwood
          Jerry White

          Non-Tendered

          Mike Willis

          ROSTER

          Starters
          C: Bruce Benedict 500K 1978 Rookie 78-83
          1B: Chris Chambliss* 2.25M 1980 FA 3 Yrs 80-82
          2B: Tony Bernazard# 1.5M 1979 Rookie 79-84
          3B: Wayne Gross* 750K 1976 Rookie 76-81
          SS: Alan Trammell 3M 1977 Rookie 77-82
          LF: George Hendrick 10M 1977 FA 5 Years 77-81 (via trade)
          CF: Claudell Washington* 2.25M 1980 FA 2 Yrs 80-81
          RF: Dave Winfield 15M 1979 HTDFA 79-83
          DH: Steve Garvey 3M 1980 FA 2 Yrs 80-81

          Reserves
          C: Ron Hodges* 250K 1980 FA 3 Yrs 80-82
          1B: Rick Monday* 1.5M 1979 FA 3 years 79-81
          2B: Julio Cruz# 500K 1977 Rookie 77-82
          Inf: *Broderick Perkins 250K 1978 Rookie 78-83
          Inf: Tim Raines# 3M 1979 Rookie 79-84
          OF: Heity Cruz 250K 1979 FA 3 years 79-81

          Pitchers
          SP: Milt Wilcox 5M 1978 FA 4 Years 78-81
          SP: Bob Welch 2.5M 1978 Rookie 78-83
          SP: Jerry Reuss* 9.5M 1978 FA 5 Years 78-82
          SP: Joe Price* 2M 1980 Rookie 80-85
          SP: Jesse Jefferson 250K 1980 FA 2 Yrs. 80-81
          SP: Jerry Koosman* 2.75M 1980 FA 3 Yrs 80-82
          RP: John Verhoeven 250K 1976 Rookie 76-81
          RP: John Butcher 750K 1980 Rookie 80-85
          RP: Tippy Martinez* 6M HTDFA 4 Yrs 80-83
          RP: Bruce Sutter 3M 1976 Rookie 76-81
          RP: Jeff Jones 250K 1980 Rookie 80-85

          Minor Leagues

          OF: Gary Ward 1M 1979 Rookie 79-84
          P: Mike Armstrong 750K 1980 Rookie 80-85

          28 Players 78M
          You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

          Comment


          • #20
            Trade!

            The Thunder have dealt Ron Cey to the Legends in exchange for the Knights 83 2nd round pick. Lew please confirm.
            "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
            - Sammy Sosa

            "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
            - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by leecemark View Post
              IF Garth Iorg (.25, FA80-82)
              1B Kieth Hernandez (15.0, FA80-81)
              OF Jim Rice (10.0, FA80-83)
              IF Jerry Royster (.25, FA80-82)
              3B Bill Madlock (9.0 FA80-83HTD)
              SS Bucky Dent (.50, FA79-81)
              C Carlton Fisk (5.0, FA 79-82)
              SP Brian Kingman (.50, 79 draft, trade)
              RP Danny Darwin (1.5, FA78, trade)
              OF: Steve Kemp (2.5, draft 77)
              IF: Jim Gantner 1.0, 1976 draft)
              OF: Gary Roenicke (1.0, 1976 draft)
              RP: Larry Bradford (.25, 77 draft)
              SP: Matt Keough (1.0, draft 77)
              SP: Roger Ericson (.75, 78 draft)
              SP Bill Gullickson (2.0, 79 draft)
              RP Dickie Noles(50, 79 draft)
              SP: Jon Matlack (8.50, FA 77-81)
              RP Bob Owchinko (.25, FA80-81)
              RP Bill Campbell (2.25, FA80-81)
              SP Juan Eichelberger (.25, FA79-81)
              SS: Alfredo Griffin (.25, 1976 draft)
              C Rich Gedman (1.50, 80 draft)
              RP Fred Breining (.50, 80 draft)
              RP Luis Aponte (.50, 80 draft)
              OF Tito Landrum (.25FA80-82)


              24 players for 59.00

              Free agents?
              My dream ballpark dimensions
              LF: 400 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
              RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
              Location....San Diego

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Windy City Fan View Post
                Trade!

                The Thunder have dealt Ron Cey to the Legends in exchange for the Knights 83 2nd round pick. Lew please confirm.
                The Legends confirm this trade. The price was fairly high, but with Paul Molitor moving to the outfield for this season we needed a decent third baseman in order to compete. I unfortunately hadn't had time to review free agents to see who might be available at third and wanted to lock someone good up for the year.
                You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                • #23
                  Lew, my preliminary look at the FA market indicates it should be a thin year at 3B. Schmidt, Brett, Bell, Evans, Nettles, DeCinces, and Lansford are all signed and not likely to be moved. Harrah just got traded (and he's more valuable at SS), so Cey was probably your best bet.

                  The Thunder firesale continues! All of the following players are on the block!
                  Leon Roberts (5.25 through 81, 126 OPS+ and a EX glove in LF or RF, or AV in CF)
                  Billy Sample (500K on a rookie deal through 83, 119 OPS+ with a VG glove in LF or RF, or FR in CF, has useful seasons in 82 and 83 as well)
                  Bill Stein (250K through 81, 135 OPS+ in 126 PA. Rated to play 1B, 2B, 3B)
                  Mike Hargrove (12.0 141 OPS+ at first base, .424 OBP)
                  Rick Langford (1.5 through 81, 115 ERA+ makes a good mid rotation starter on a contender)
                  Len Barker (1.0 through 81, 94 ERA+, but good WHIP (1.279) and K/BB (2.75))
                  Aurelio Rodriguez (2.0 through 31, 104 ERA+ as a durable reliever)

                  Reggie Smith is also on the table, he's useless this season but puts up a nice season in 82 if you're gunning for that season. Gary Lavelle is a lefty reliever with a subpar season this year, but bounce back next year. I'd even listen to offers on Al Holland and Dwayne Murphy, but they have multiple productive seasons so offers would have to be substantial. We're looking for draft picks, players that will contribute in 83 and beyond, or to upgrade our current stockpile of draft picks.
                  Last edited by Windy City Fan; 06-08-2012, 10:02 PM.
                  "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                  - Sammy Sosa

                  "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                  - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    The Tyrants are also selling off a few assets:

                    SP Dennis Martinez (3.0 with a 110 ERA+)
                    2B Frank White (2.5 through this season, 92 OPS+, AV/67 glove)
                    OF Larry Hendon (111 OPS+, rated to play all 3 OF spots, 2.0 through this season)
                    and the grand daddy of them all ...
                    SP Dennis Lamp, a 148 ERA+ for only 2.0 on a rookie deal. Bidding starts at a first round pick. Also will consider young pitchers who can deliver similar years in 82 or beyond. Lamp is an ace and potential Cy Young candidate this year. He's definately the kind of guy who could put a team over the top and at a minimal cost to the salary cap.
                    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                    - Sammy Sosa

                    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
                      Gamblers Rooster 1981




                      Draft Picks Traded/Received

                      Traded

                      To Angels Gamblers 1981 3rd
                      To Angels Gamblers 1981 4th
                      To Thunder Gamblers 1982 2nd
                      Received
                      From Angels 1981 2nd
                      From Thunder Thunder 1982 3rd
                      Can you tell us how you aquired this pick? I don't have any record of having traded it and it isn't listed on the transaction thread as having been traded.
                      My dream ballpark dimensions
                      LF: 400 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                      RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                      Location....San Diego

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                      • #26
                        Garry - i thought we made this deal in the whitson/sorensen trade. i went off the emails we sent on it
                        Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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                        • #27
                          Post 200 in the 1979-80 Offseason Thread . . . the deal involved the dust bunnies pick that the Angels had acquired. I will correct my records.
                          Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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                          • #28
                            I've started working on updating the individual team web pages. I would appreciate everyone posting their batter and pitcher of the year so I can include them.

                            I updated the overall team records as well. The Knights become the first (and so far only) team to top the 2000 win mark! That's one heck of a record, Mark, averaging over 100 wins per season for 20 years!:supe::applaud: The Knight total entering the 1981 season is 2051, so you've actually averaged more than 102 per season. Incredible job! Closest to the Knights is still the Hard Cider, who came up just short, finishing with 1985 wins. The Legends are within reach, but would need a great season in 1981, as we need 101 wins to reach 2000. The Skipjacks are a couple years away, with 1814.
                            You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                            • #29
                              The Thunder selections are easy. Pitcher is Eck and player is Oglivie. For the Tyrants Yount and closer Neil Allen as our pitcher of the year selection.
                              "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                              - Sammy Sosa

                              "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                              - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
                                Post 200 in the 1979-80 Offseason Thread . . . the deal involved the dust bunnies pick that the Angels had acquired. I will correct my records.
                                Ahh that makes sense now. Thanks for solving the mystery for me.
                                My dream ballpark dimensions
                                LF: 400 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                                RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                                Location....San Diego

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