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  • Just checked web site. Great work. BUT... please correct city name. It is ASYLUM with one "S". Not ASSylum. Thanks.
    Ed
    There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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    • Got it Ed ... all fixed
      Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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      • Heck, I liked Rich's spelling better....
        You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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        • Originally posted by catcher24 View Post
          Heck, I liked Rich's spelling better....
          Still listed as ASSylum on draft pages.
          There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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          • Originally posted by buppers View Post
            Still listed as ASSylum on draft pages.
            I was an English major .... my mind is not made to spell asylum that way lol
            Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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            • Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
              I was an English major .... my mind is not made to spell asylum that way lol
              Hey, I don't mind changing it to ASSylum Inmates BUTT....It will require me posting a new team Logo
              There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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              • How does this program rate people defensively?

                In other words, does it count Jeter as a good fielder or a bad one?
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                • --Defensive ratings are strictly by the numbers, not reputation. You see some well regarded fielders with surprisingly low rating and vice versa. Also some guys who got a bad rep by making lots of errors will actually have good range (others will have bad range, but make few errors). And there will be swings in range from year to year, so don't expect the gold glover you draft this year to neccessarily achor your defense going forward.
                  --Actually the above is true for seasons actually programmed by DMB. These early seasons are home brews by assorted gamers and may be based more on reputation? They have also been edited by Rich for our league so he would be better able to answer the question on reputation vs defensive stats.

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                  • I know a lot (most?) of the home brew seasons rate a high percentage of players as average, unless there is good evidence that rating should be adjusted one way or another. It also depends to an extent on how much time and effort a guy was willing to devote to digging up those fielding stats. I know Scott spent hours doing it because he told me how he went about assigning his fielding ratings, but Scott was a Diamond Mind anomaly, and I doubt there are a dozen guys in the world who devote the amount of time and effort that he did to DM.
                    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                    • lew is right ... in these early homebrew seasons most players do have an average rating. One of the big adjustments I made to the era settings is I have normalized the error rate. There will still be more errors in the first 20 years but not at such an extreme rate. I am going to take lew up on his offer to creat a list of player fielding ratings for a 4 to 5 year period for those owners who are interested.
                      Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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                      • Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
                        Rookie pay structure will be as follows:
                        1-4: 3M
                        5-8: 2.5M
                        9-12: 2M
                        13-16: 1.5M
                        17-24: 1M
                        25-32: 750K
                        3rd round: 500K
                        4th round: 250K
                        There will only be 4 rounds
                        Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
                        1901 Season Redraft Rules

                        All players from the year 1901 will be re-drafted. Player salaries and contract length for this initial draft will be automatic depending on what round they are taken.

                        Round 1 - 15M
                        Round 2 - 10M
                        Round 3 - 8M
                        Round 4 - 7M
                        Round 5 - 6M
                        Round 6 - 5M
                        Round 7 - 4M
                        Round 8 - 3M
                        Round 9-12 - 2M
                        Round 13-17 - 1M
                        Round 18-21 - 750K
                        Round 22-25 - 500K
                        Round 26-30 - 250K

                        Contract lengths will be as follows

                        Round 1-2 - up to 8 years
                        Round 3-5 - up to 6 years
                        Round 6-10 - up to 5 years
                        Round 11-15 - up to 4 years
                        Round 16-30 - up to 3 years

                        For the first draft you will need to choose contract lengths at the time your pick is made.
                        I like the format of the rookie draft better, where the first several picks are differentiated in value. But I think that at least the top picks of the rookie draft should be more like the 1901 redraft, with significantly higher salaries. The #1 rookie each year is almost certainly going to be worth at least $10 mil, and possibly up to $20-25 million. Paying $21 million over 7 years for $175 million in value is absurdly unfair
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                        • Rich, with only 12 teams in the league, you should probably adjust the rookie pay structure. 25-32 will be most of the third round.

                          Also, I like the way the CKL does rookie pay. It's more realistic that way (real life rookies get paid far below market value), and also makes rebuilding easier simply by adding cap space. Also, it increases the value of draft picks, leading to more player movement and thus more league activity.

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                          • Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
                            Rich, with only 12 teams in the league, you should probably adjust the rookie pay structure. 25-32 will be most of the third round.
                            I agree with Eric. The rookie pay schedules for P2PKL and CKL are the same. However, P2PKL is a 12 team league, and the CKL is a 16 team league.

                            Jack
                            Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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                            • Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
                              Rich, with only 12 teams in the league, you should probably adjust the rookie pay structure. 25-32 will be most of the third round.
                              I agree with Eric. The rookie pay schedules for P2PKL and CKL are the same. However, P2PKL is a 12 team league, and the CKL is a 16 team league.

                              Jack
                              Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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                              • Originally posted by Erik Bedard View Post
                                Rich, with only 12 teams in the league, you should probably adjust the rookie pay structure. 25-32 will be most of the third round.

                                Also, I like the way the CKL does rookie pay. It's more realistic that way (real life rookies get paid far below market value), and also makes rebuilding easier simply by adding cap space. Also, it increases the value of draft picks, leading to more player movement and thus more league activity.
                                I purpose the following

                                1-4: 3M
                                5-8: 2.5M
                                9-12: 2M
                                13-16: 1.5M
                                17-20: 1M
                                21-24: 750K
                                3rd round: 500K
                                4th round: 250K
                                My dream ballpark dimensions
                                LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                                RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                                Location....San Diego

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