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  • 1902 Season Thread

    Opening day is August 22nd!
    Use this thread to submit lineups and roster info.
    Sim results will be posted here along with stats.
    Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

  • #2
    Yikes- August 22? No rest for the weary!

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    • #3
      SP: Rube Waddell, 15.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905 (RFA)
      SP: Joe McGinnity, 10.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      SP: Bill Dinneen, 8.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      SP: Tully Sparks, 7.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 6 years, exp 1906
      SP: Bill Bernhard, 6.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      1B: Pop Dillon, 5.50M Contract, 1901 FA, 1 year, exp 1902
      2B: Tim Flood, 5.25M Contract, 1902 FA, 1 year, exp 1902
      SP: Kid Nichols, 5.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      SP: Bob Wicker, 4.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905
      SP: Addie Joss, 3.00M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, Exp 1908
      2B: Pete Childs, 2.75M Contract, 1902 FA, 1 year, Exp 1902
      SP: Jack Sutthoff, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
      SP: Ed Poole, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 2 years, exp 1902
      RF: Ducky Holmes, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      SP: Rube Vickers, 1.50M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, Exp 1908
      LF: Lefty Davis, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 2 years, exp 1902
      1B: John Ganzel, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      SS: Dave Brain, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
      C: Jack Warner, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
      C: Chief Zimmer, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 2 years, exp 1902
      1B: Charlie Carr, 0.75K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
      SS: Herman Long, 0.75K Contract, 1901 draft, 2 years, exp 1902
      C: Jack O'Connor, 0.75K Contract, 1901 draft, 2 years, exp 1902
      SP: Rube Kisinger, 0.75K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
      3B: Fred Hartman, 0.75K Contract, 1902 FA, 1 year, exp 1902
      C: Fritz Buelow, 0.50K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
      SP: Martin Glendon, 0.50K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
      OF: Harry Arndt, 0.25K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
      1B: Hal O'Hagan, 0.25K Contract, 1902 FA, 1 year, exp 1902
      RF: Pepper Clark, 0.25K Contract, 1902 FA, 1 year, exp 1902

      30 Players = 89.50M


      1. (2B) Tim Flood (Childs)
      2. (C) Jack Warner (Buelow 30%, O'Connor 20%, Zimmer 10%)
      3. (1B) Pop Dillon (O'Hagan 40%)
      4. (SS) Hermon Long (Childs)
      5. (3B) Fred Hartman (Childs)
      6. (DH) Pete Childs (Zimmer)
      7. (RF) Ducky Holmes (Clark)
      8. (LF) Harry Arndt (Clark)
      9. (CF) Lefty Davis (Clark)

      Pitching Assignments
      Rotation - 4 Man, strict

      SP1: Rube Waddell
      SP2: Bill Bernhard
      SP3: Joe McGinnity
      SP4: Bill Dinneen

      Closer: Rube Kisinger
      Long Relief: Ed Poole
      Mopup: Addie Joss


      Strategy
      Bunt For Hit: Normal
      Sacrifice Bunt: More
      Squeeze Bunt: More
      Hit and Run: Most
      Stealing: More
      Running: More
      Taking Pitches: Normal
      PH For non Pitchers: Normal
      PH For Platoon Partner: Normal
      PH In Blowouts: Normal
      Pitching Around: More
      Intentional Walk: More
      Pickoffs: Normal
      Pitching Out: More
      Using Relievers: Less
      Using Closers: Normal
      Holding Runners: More
      Infield In: Most
      Guard Lines: Normal
      My dream ballpark dimensions
      LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
      RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
      Location....San Diego

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      • #4
        You have Addie Joss pitching mop-up? I'm sure you must have some sort of master plan, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wade8813 View Post
          You have Addie Joss pitching mop-up? I'm sure you must have some sort of master plan, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is...
          the number 1 pick again next year maybe
          Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rmadachik View Post
            the number 1 pick again next year maybe
            I hope this isn't true. Knowing Garry for some time in the CKL, I don't think it is. Drafting for the future is one thing; positioning players with the intent to increase the likelihood of losing is another.
            Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dust bunnies View Post
              I hope this isn't true. Knowing Garry for some time in the CKL, I don't think it is. Drafting for the future is one thing; positioning players with the intent to increase the likelihood of losing is another.

              Yeah, I'm not suggesting that - I just think that's where we are heading
              Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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              • #8
                LIGHTHOUSE POINT BUMS

                1902 ROSTER

                Eddie Plank P 8 years $15.0 last 08
                Bobby Wallace SS 6 years $10.0 last 06
                Ed Delahanty LF/1B 3 years $8.0 last 03
                Jim Powell P 6 years $7.0 last 06
                Sam Mertes- OF/2B 5 years $6.0 last 05
                Jimmy Barrett CF 4 years $6.0 last 04
                Willie Sudhoff P 3 years $5.0 last 03
                Jimmy Callahan P/3B 5 years $4.0 last 05
                Bill Coughlin 3B 5 years $4.0 last 05
                Hobe Ferris 2B 4 years $3.0 last 04
                Ollie Pickering CF 4 years $2.0 last 04
                Win Mercer P 2 years $2.0 last 02
                Ed McFarland C 4 years $2.0 last 04
                Lou Criger C 4 years $1.0 last 04
                Frank Isbell 1B/2B/3B 3 years $1.0 last 03
                Bones Ely SS 2 years $1.0 last 02
                Jim Jackson CF 2 years $.75 last 02
                Jack Ryan C 3 years $.5 last 03
                Johnny Evers 2B 7 years $2.0 last 08
                Bunk Congalton OF $1.0
                Wish Egan $0.5
                Cy Vorhees $0.25
                Pete LePine $0.25
                Bill Popp $0.25
                Oscar Streit $0.25
                Len Swormstedt $0.25
                Jack Katoll $7.0
                Ed Kenna $0.25
                FA02 Doc Hazleton $0.25
                FA02 Dike Varney $0.25

                30 players $90.75 million

                Lineup vs Righties:
                1. J. Barrett, CF
                2. O. Pickering, RF
                3. B. Wallace, SS
                4. E. Delahanty, DH
                5. S. Mertes, LF
                6. B. Coughlin, 3B
                7. F. Isbel, 1B
                8. H. Ferris, 2B
                9. L. Criger, C

                Lineup vs Lefties:
                1. J. Barrett, CF
                2. O. Pickering, RF
                3. B. Wallace, SS
                4. E. Delahanty, 1B
                5. S. Mertes, RF
                6. B. Coughlin, 3B
                7. F. Isbel, DH
                8. H. Ferris, 2B
                9. E. McFarland, C

                Pitching

                Starting Rotation- 4 man, strict

                SP1. E. Plank
                SP2. W. Mercer
                SP3. J. Powell
                SP4. W. Sudhoff

                Relief

                Long Relief 1 C. Vorhees
                Long Relief 2 O. Streit

                Setup vs L N. Callahan

                Setup vs R N. Callahan

                Mopup E. Kenna

                Closer J. Katoll

                Bench

                C vs RHP L. Criger
                C vs LHP E. McFarland
                1B D. Hazleton
                2B J. Evers
                SS B. Ely
                3B B. Ely
                LF P. LePine
                CF J. Jackson
                RF B. Congalton

                Strategy
                Bunt For Hit: 3
                Sacrifice Bunt: 3
                Squeeze Bunt: 3
                Hit and Run: 3
                Stealing: 3
                Running: 3
                Taking Pitches: 3
                PH For non Pitchers: 3
                PH For Platoon Partner: 3
                PH In Blowouts: 3
                Pitching Around: 3
                Intentional Walk: 3
                Pickoffs: 3
                Pitching Out: 3
                Using Relievers: 3
                Using Closers: 3
                Holding Runners: 3
                Infield In: 3
                Guard Lines: 3
                Last edited by BigRon; 08-22-2012, 06:43 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wade8813 View Post
                  You have Addie Joss pitching mop-up? I'm sure you must have some sort of master plan, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is...
                  Addie Joss in the mopup role speaks to the strength of our pitching than anything else.

                  Rube Waddell: 2.05 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 178 ERA+
                  Bill Bernhard: 2.15 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, 160 ERA+
                  Joe McGinnity: 2.84 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 117 ERA+
                  Bill Dinneen: 2.93 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 121 ERA+
                  Ed Poole: 2.10 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 142 ERA+
                  Rube Kisinger: 3.12 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, 120 ERA+
                  Addie Joss: 2.77 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 124 ERA+

                  Waddell and Bernhard are a clear #1-2. A case could be made for Joss being the #3 starter ahead of McGinnity or Dinneen, however the numbers are similar and both have over 350+ more BF than Joss so I elected to use them as starters and work Joss from the bullpen at least to start the season.

                  As for his role in the bullpen, I felt that Joss could get more innings in the mopup role than in the long relief role. If he pitches well and/or either McGinnity or Dinneen struggle early on we'll likely make a switch. Ed Poole could also be in the mix for a starting spot if he pitches well in the closers role. He has less BF though so we likely won't consider using him as a starter until at least june.

                  7 quality pitchers makes for some tough decisions, still it is a nice problem to have!
                  My dream ballpark dimensions
                  LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                  RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                  Location....San Diego

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                  • #10
                    Laquey Sharks

                    Code:
                    Scoops Carey		02		16 million
                    Cy Young		01-08		15 million
                    Warren McLaughlin	02		14 million
                    Fielder Jones		01-08		10 million 
                    Freddy Parent		01-06		8 million 
                    Ginger Beaumont		01-06		7 million
                    Wid Conroy		01-06		6 million
                    Togie Pittinger		01-05		5 million
                    Emmet Hendrick		01-04		4 million
                    Jim Hughes		01-02		2 million
                    Kitty Bransfield	01-02		2 million
                    Otto Krueger		01-03		2 million
                    Harry Bemis		02+		2 million (Rookie signing)
                    Charlie Irwin		01-02		1 million
                    Frank Morrissey		01-02		1 million
                    Art Nichols		01-02		750k
                    Gus Dorner		02		750k (Rookie signing)
                    Jimmy Mathison		02+		500k (Rookie signing)
                    Wiley Dunham		02		250k
                    Peaches Graham		02		250k
                    George Prentiss		02		250k
                    Otto Williams		02		250k 
                    Fred Brown		02		250k
                    Sammy Curran		02		250k
                    Fred Klobedanz		02		250k
                    Jack Thoney		02+		250k (Rookie signing)
                    Harry Kane		02-05		250k
                    Rudy Kling		02		250k
                    Farmer Steelman		02		250k
                    Jimmy McAleer		02		250k
                    Bob Dresser		02		250k
                    					       = 98 million
                    30 players for $98 million
                    Last edited by Wade8813; 12-25-2012, 09:41 AM.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                    • #11
                      Code:
                      POSITION	SIGNED	EXPIRES	SALARY
                      			$100,000,000
                      CATCHER			
                      Roger Bresnahan	1901	1908	$15,000,000
                      Jack Slattery	1901	1903	250000
                      Jack O'Neill	1902	1908	250000
                      FIRST BASE			
                      Buck Freeman	1901	1904	$7,000,000
                      Charlie Hickman	1901	1906	8000000
                      SECOND BASE			
                      Danny Murphy	1901	1905	3000000
                      Tom Daly	1901	1903	2000000
                      Jack Dunn	1901	1903	750000
                      THIRD BASE			
                      Gene DeMontreville	1901	1902	1000000
                      Jim Delahanty	1901	1904	$1,000,000
                      Otto Krueger	1901	1903	2000000
                      SHORTSTOP			
                      George Magoon	1901	1903	2000000
                      Heinie Wagner	1902	1908	500000
                      Joe Bean	1902	1902	500000
                      LEFT FIELD			
                      Topsy Hartsel	1901	1908	10000000
                      			
                      CENTER FIELD			
                      Chick Stahl	1901	1905	$5,000,000
                      RIGHT FIELD			
                      Jesse Burkett	1901	1905	$8,000,000
                      Dusty Miller	1902	1902	8000000
                      			
                      STARTERS			
                      Al Orth	1901	1906	6000000
                      Frank Owen	1901	1905	$4,000,000
                      Jack Harper	1901	1904	2000000
                      Doc Newton	1901	1902	2000000
                      RELIEVERS			
                      Fred Glade	1902	1908	2000000
                      Libe Washburn	1902	1903	500000
                      Ike Butler	1902	1902	500000
                      Bill Carrick	1902	1902	1250000
                      Joe Yeager	1902	1903	6500000
                      Doc Adkins	1902	1902	250000
                      Harvey Cushman	1902	1902	250000
                      Ernie Ross	1902	1902	250000
                      Dave Williams	1902	1902	250000
                      LINEUP

                      LF Hartsel (Miller)
                      CF Stahl (Miller)
                      1B Hickman
                      DH Freeman (Magoon)
                      RF Burkett (Miller)
                      C Bresnahan (O'Neill 15%)
                      2B Murphy (Magoon 35%, Daly)
                      3B Krueger (Dunn)
                      SS DeMontreville (Dunn)

                      PITCHING

                      SP1 Newton
                      SP2 Orth
                      SP3 Harper
                      SP4 Carrick

                      SU: Yeager
                      CL: Yeager

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                      • #12
                        One note, the Barons will be using Watty Lee as a pitcher, not an OFer.

                        Roster
                        SP Noodles Hahn (FA 01 to 04, 15.0 Million)
                        SP Jack Taylor (FA 01 to 06, 7.0 Million)
                        SP Frank Kitson (FA 01 to 03, 3.0 Million)
                        SP Watty Lee (FA 01 to03, 2.0 Million)
                        P Carl Lundgren (02 Draft, 2.5 Million)
                        RP Jim St. Vrain (02 Draft, 1.0 Million)
                        C Johnny Kling (FA 01 to 06, 6.0 Million)
                        1B Fred Tenney (FA 01 to 03, 5.0 Million)
                        2B Heinie Peitz (FA 01 to 03, 4.0 Million)
                        SS George Davis (FA 01 to 06, 10.0 Million)
                        3B Tommy Leach (FA 01 to 03, 8.0 Million)
                        LF John Dobbs (FA 01 to 02, 2.0 Million)
                        OF Joe Kelley (FA 01 to 04, 7.0 Million)
                        IF Hughie Jennings (FA 01 to 02, 1.0 Million)
                        IF Heinie Smith (FA 01 to 03, 500K)
                        OF Davy Jones (FA 01 to 04, 2.0 Million)
                        OF Billy Lush (FA 01 to 04, 2.0 Million)
                        IF Larry Schafly (02 Draft, 500K)
                        IF Sport McAllister (FA 02 to 03, 3.75 Million)
                        OF Jack Hendrick (FA 02, 1.5 Million)
                        1B Billy Mellor (FA 02, 5.0 Million)
                        C Tacks Latimer (FA 02, 250K)
                        2B John O’Connell (FA 02, 250K)
                        1B Dad Clark (FA 02, 250K)
                        OF Jim Murray (FA 02, 250K)
                        P John Burke (FA 02, 250K)
                        P Tad Quinn (FA 02, 250K)
                        P Ed Fischer (FA 02, 250K)
                        P Pep Deininger (FA 02, 250K)
                        P Frank Forman (FA 02, 250K)

                        Lineup vs RH and LH
                        1B Tenney (Jennings)
                        SS Davis (Jennings)
                        CF Kelley (Dobbs)
                        3B Leach (Smith)
                        DH Jones (Jennings)
                        2B Peitz (Jennings)
                        C Kling (Peitz)
                        RF Lush (Hendricks)
                        LF Dobbs (Lush)

                        SP
                        Taylor
                        Hahn
                        Kitson
                        Lundgren (skip)

                        Closer and Setup: St. Vrain
                        Long and Mopup: Lee


                        Strategy
                        Bunt For Hit: Normal
                        Sacrifice Bunt: Less
                        Squeeze Bunt: Less
                        Hit and Run: Less
                        Stealing: Least (Davis More)
                        Running: Normal
                        Taking Pitches: Normal
                        PH For non Pitchers: Normal
                        PH For Platoon Partner: Normal
                        PH In Blowouts: Normal
                        Pitching Around: Normal
                        Intentional Walk: Normal
                        Pickoffs: Normal
                        Pitching Out: Normal
                        Using Relievers: Less
                        Using Closers: More
                        Holding Runners: Normal
                        Infield In: Normal
                        Guard Lines: Normal
                        "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
                        - Sammy Sosa

                        "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
                        - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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                        • #13
                          Opening day is today correct?
                          My dream ballpark dimensions
                          LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                          RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                          Location....San Diego

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                          • #14
                            yup - sure is
                            Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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                            • #15
                              Play Ball!!!

                              The 1902 season is undeer way, and Jamestown & New Orleans start things off in grand fashion as both teams post league best 8-2 records. They open the season with 2 game leads over the next best teams. Seattle gets clobbered with the injurry bug right off the bat losing 3 players for a combined 52 days
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                              Last edited by rmadachik; 08-22-2012, 02:18 PM.
                              Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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