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  • 1903 Free Agency Thread

    Free Agency bidding begins at 9:01PM EST on Wednesday December 12th.

    Looks like a lot of money is going to be spent on some very marginal players.

    Taking bets on how big a salary Patsy Flaherty draws. My bet is 25M
    Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

  • #2
    Can we get an updated league file sent out today please.

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    • #3
      Tigers roster after the draft and prior to the start of free agency:

      Code:
      Detroit Tigers		1903	 After Draft 			
      				 Contract 		
       Pos 	 Name 	 Acquired 	 Salary 	 Begin 		 End 
      C	Bill Bergen	Draft	 $750,000 	1901	-	1903
      C	Deacon McGuire	Draft	 $2,000,000 	1901	-	1904
      C	Frank Roth	Draft	 $500,000 	1903	-	1905
      1B	Frank Chance	Draft	 $10,000,000 	1901	-	1906
      1B	Roy Brashear	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1902	-	1903
      2B	Claude Ritchey	Draft	 $6,000,000 	1901	-	1906
      3B	Lave Cross	Draft	 $5,000,000 	1901	-	1904
      SS	Bill Friel	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1903
      SS	Bill Dahlen	Draft	 $8,000,000 	1901	-	1905
      SS	John Gochnauer	Draft	 $500,000 	1901	-	1903
      OF	Fred Clarke	Draft	 $15,000,000 	1901	-	1907
      OF	Jimmy Slagle	Draft	 $4,000,000 	1901	-	1904
      OF	Kip Selbach	Draft	 $3,000,000 	1901	-	1904
      P 	Deacon Phillippe	Draft	 $10,000,000 	1901	-	1907
      P 	Harry Howell	Draft	 $4,000,000 	1901	-	1905
      P	Bill Duggleby	Draft	 $3,000,000 	1901	-	1905
      P	Chick Fraser	Draft	 $2,000,000 	1901	-	1905
      P	Ed Murphy	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1903
      P	Happy Townsend	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1904
      P	Oscar Jones	Draft	 $1,500,000 	1903	-	1905
      P	Barney Wolfe	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1903	-	1906
      P	Charlie Smith	Draft	 $500,000 	1902	-	1908
      P	Alex Pearson	Draft	 $250,000 	1902	-	1903
      P	Jack Doscher	Draft	 $250,000 	1903	-	1908
      Players		            24	 $81,250,000 			
      						
      	Draft Picks Traded To	Year	 Round 			
      	None					
      						
      	Draft Picks Traded From	Year	 Round 			
      	Spiders	1905	 1
      Last edited by scubadan; 12-12-2012, 06:01 AM.
      Dan
      CKL - Maloy Boys
      P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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      • #4
        Anaheim Angels roster

        SP: Rube Waddell, 15.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905 (RFA)
        SP: Joe McGinnity, 10.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        SP: Bill Dinneen, 8.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        SP: Tully Sparks, 7.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 6 years, exp 1906
        SP: Bill Bernhard, 6.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        SP: Kid Nichols, 5.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        SP: Bob Wicker, 4.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905
        SP: Addie Joss, 3.00M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
        SP: Mordecai Brown, 3.00M Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years. exp 1909
        RF: Ducky Holmes, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        2B: George Magoon, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
        SP: Rube Vickers, 1.50M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
        SP: Jack Pfiester, 1.50M Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years, exp 1909
        1B: John Ganzel, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        SS: Dave Brain, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
        C: Jack Warner, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
        3B: Jimmy Burke, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
        C: Fred Jacklitsch, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
        1B: Charlie Carr, 0.75K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
        SP: Rube Kisinger, 0.75K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
        SP: Kaiser Wilhelm, 0.75K Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years, exp 1909
        C: Fritz Buelow, 0.50K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
        SP: Martin Glendon, 0.50K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
        SP: Jesse Stovall, 0.50K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
        OF: Harry Arndt, 0.25K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908

        25 Players = 77.00M
        Last edited by Sockeye; 12-13-2012, 10:22 AM.
        My dream ballpark dimensions
        LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
        RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
        Location....San Diego

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        • #5
          Seattle Dragons
          1) RF Sam Crawford (1901-08) 15.0
          2) 3B Jimmy Collins (1901-05) 10.0, player-manager
          3) SP Jesse Tannehill (1901-05) 8.0
          4) 2B Jimmy Williams (1901-06) 7.0
          5) SS Kid Elberfeld (1901-06) 6.0
          6) SP Ned Garvin (1901-1904) 6.0
          7) SP Ed Siever (1901-1903) 5.0
          8) SP Clark Griffith (1901-1905) 4.0
          9) LF John Anderson (1901-1905) 4.0
          10) OF Duff Cooley (1901-1905) 2.0
          11) SP Jock Menefee (1901-1903) 2.0
          12) C Duke Farrell (1901-1903) 2.0
          13) 1B Candy LaChance (1901-1904) 1.0
          14) 2B Shad Barry (1901-1903) 1.0
          15) Brickyard Kennedy (1901-1903) .75
          16) Aleck Smith (1901-1903) .50
          17) Jimmy Sebring(1902-1905) ,75
          18) Jimmy Morrissey (1902-03) .25
          19) John Malarkey (1902-03) 9.0
          20) C Ossee Schrecongest (1901-05) $4.0
          21) IF Charlie Babb (1903D), 1.0
          22) OF Bil Keister (1903T) 5.0
          23) C Fred Abbott (1902D) .50
          24) P Grant Thatcher (1902D) .25



          24 players for 94.75

          --I don't expect to be much of a player in this auction. Maybe crappy, overpaid signing and 5 minimum wage roster fillers. Thankfully my roster is already pretty well set.

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          • #6
            Kalamazoo Kumquats 1903 Roster (amended 12/13/2012)

            George Barclay draft 02 $0.25
            Jake Beckley FA 01-04 $6.00
            Honus Wagner FA 01-08 $15.00
            Mike Donlin FA 01-05 $7.00
            Red Dooin draft 02 $0.50
            Patsy Dougherty draft 02 $2.50
            Jack Doyle FA 01-03 $1.00
            Kid Gleason FA 01-04 $2.00
            Jack Sutthoff FA 01-03 $2.00
            Billy Lauder FA 01-03 $0.75
            Bobby Lowe FA 01-03 $0.75
            Pat Moran FA 01-03 $3.00
            Jack O'Brien FA 01-03 $1.00
            Cy Seymour FA 01-05 $8.00
            Harry Steinfeldt FA 01-03 $5.00
            George Moriarity draft 03 $0.50
            Hunter Hill draft 03 $0.25
            Fred Carisch draft 03 $0.25
            Mal Eason FA 01-03 $1.00
            Sam Leever FA 01-08 $15.00
            George Mullin draft 02 $3.00
            Casey Patten FA 01-05 $2.00
            Bill Phillips FA 01-03 $2.00
            Bob Rhodes draft 02 $1.50
            Doc White FA 01-08 $10.00
            Gene Wright FA 01-03 $0.50
            Cy Falkenberg draft 03 $1.00
            Fred Burchell draft 03 $0.25

            28 players at $92.00
            Last edited by dust bunnies; 12-13-2012, 10:07 AM.
            Illegitimi Non Carborundum

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            • #7
              Is a player who is inactive in 1903 but who had playing time prior to 1903 eligible to be bid on as a free agent? This question always comes up in various leagues and I didn't see an answer in our rules.
              Dan
              CKL - Maloy Boys
              P2PKL - Detroit Tigers

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scubadan View Post
                Is a player who is inactive in 1903 but who had playing time prior to 1903 eligible to be bid on as a free agent? This question always comes up in various leagues and I didn't see an answer in our rules.
                Dan, I believe that Rich said last year when the same issue came up that you could NOT bid on a player that did not play in a given season. Naturally if you already own the rights to a player that didn't play in a given season you can carry him on the roster, but I'm pretty sure Rich said you can't bid on any player that's a free agent but doesn't actually appear in the upcoming season. If that's not right I'm sure Rich will correct me.
                You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                • #9
                  Express Roster and Cap Space

                  Nick Altrock, P 14.5M 1902 FA Five years 02-06 (via trade)
                  Andy Coakley, P 2.5M 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
                  Ernie Courtney*, Utl 500K 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
                  Monte Cross, SS 1M 1901 Draft Three years 01-03 (via trade)
                  Red Donahue, P 7M Draft Three years 1901-1903
                  Patsy Donovan*, OF 3M Draft Three years 1901-1903
                  Danny Green*, OF 6M Draft Four years 1901-1904
                  Tom Hughes, P 2M Draft Five years 1901-1905
                  Joe Martin, Inf 250K 1903 Rookie 03-09
                  Roy Patterson, P 4M Draft Five years 1901-1905
                  Ambrose Puttmann, P 500K 1903 Rookie 03-09
                  Jimmy Sheckard*, OF 10M Draft Five years 1901-1905 RFA eligible
                  Jake Stahl, 1B 2M 1903 Rookie 03-09
                  Tom Walker, P 1000 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
                  Jake Weimer*, P 2500 1903 Rookie 02-09
                  Vic Willis, P 8M Draft Six years 1901-1906
                  Harry Wolverton*, 3B 2M Draft Four years 1901-1904

                  17 Players 66.75M
                  Last edited by catcher24; 12-12-2012, 09:16 AM.
                  You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                  • #10
                    35 man rosters going into the season, 130% playing time in 1903. Is that correct?

                    Also, did we decide to reduce the number of PAs/BFs from 100 to a smaller number in order to have a guy in the lineup from 1901-1903? Seems like we did, but I might be thinking of CKL during the 1981 strike season.
                    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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                    • #11
                      --As far as I recall you can not have a guy with less than 100 serving as anything but an injury replacment, although they will be active to jump in for in-sim injuries. I don't remember the roster increase from 30-35 either. Hope that is a max not a requirement, because there really don't seem to be enough players to support that roster size.

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                      • #12
                        due to the limited number of available players the minimum roster requirement is 30. owners are required to have enough plate appearances and innings to cover the season though.
                        Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rmadachik View Post

                          Taking bets on how big a salary Patsy Flaherty draws. My bet is 25M
                          He sure would make a nice mopup guy for our 1904 staff! :o
                          My dream ballpark dimensions
                          LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
                          RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
                          Location....San Diego

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                          • #14
                            INMATES ROSTER

                            # Player Contract 1903
                            1 Ames, Red 1903-R01-07 2.000
                            2 Casey, Doc 1901-R12-04 2.000
                            3 Clark, Boileryard 1901-R10-03 2.000
                            4 Davis, Harry 1901-R04-06 7.000
                            5 Deering, John 1903-R04-01 0.250
                            6 Donovan, Bill 1901-R03-05 8.000
                            7 Evans, Roy 1902-FA-02 5.500
                            8 Gessler, Doc 1903-R01-07 2.500
                            9 Hemphill, Charlie 1901-R11-03 2.000
                            10 Hess, Otto 1902-R01-07 2.500
                            11 Hulswitt, Rudy 1902-FA-04 5.000
                            12 Lajoie, Nap 1901-R01-08 15.000
                            13 McCormick, Barry 1901-R19-03 0.750
                            14 McFarland, Chappie1902-R03-05 0.500
                            15 McFarland, Herm 1901-R08-03 3.000
                            16 Moran, Charles 1903-R03-03 0.500
                            17 O'Neill, Mike 1901-R09-04 2.000
                            18 Phelps, Ed 1902-R02-05 1.000
                            19 Piatt, Wiley 1901-R13-03 1.000
                            20 Reidy, Bill 1901-R15-03 1.000
                            21 Ryan, Jimmy 1902-FA-02 15.000
                            22 Smoot, Homer 1902-R01-05 2.500
                            23 Strang, Sammy 1901-R06-03 5.000
                            24 Tannehill, Lee 1903-R02-07 0.750
                            25 Thomas, Roy 1901-R02-06 10.000
                            26 Weaver, Art 1902-FA-02 0.250
                            TOTAL 97.000
                            There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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                            • #15
                              owners are required to have enough plate appearances and innings to cover the season though.
                              What figures are you using Rich? I won't have any problem with innings, but I can see some serious issues with PAs, especially at a couple of positions I need to fill. What happens if I don't get sufficient PAs at a particular position? I'm not trying to be difficult, but I can see a real issue for me at one position. I don't think it will even be possible to get enough PAs there.
                              Last edited by catcher24; 12-12-2012, 12:45 PM.
                              You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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