1903 Free Agency Thread

[rmadachik]

Free Agency bidding begins at 9:01PM EST on Wednesday December 12th.

Looks like a lot of money is going to be spent on some very marginal players.

Taking bets on how big a salary Patsy Flaherty draws. My bet is 25M

[jaybird_1981]

Can we get an updated league file sent out today please.

[scubadan]

Tigers roster after the draft and prior to the start of free agency:

Detroit Tigers		1903	 After Draft 			
				 Contract 		
 Pos 	 Name 	 Acquired 	 Salary 	 Begin 		 End 
C	Bill Bergen	Draft	 $750,000 	1901	-	1903
C	Deacon McGuire	Draft	 $2,000,000 	1901	-	1904
C	Frank Roth	Draft	 $500,000 	1903	-	1905
1B	Frank Chance	Draft	 $10,000,000 	1901	-	1906
1B	Roy Brashear	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1902	-	1903
2B	Claude Ritchey	Draft	 $6,000,000 	1901	-	1906
3B	Lave Cross	Draft	 $5,000,000 	1901	-	1904
SS	Bill Friel	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1903
SS	Bill Dahlen	Draft	 $8,000,000 	1901	-	1905
SS	John Gochnauer	Draft	 $500,000 	1901	-	1903
OF	Fred Clarke	Draft	 $15,000,000 	1901	-	1907
OF	Jimmy Slagle	Draft	 $4,000,000 	1901	-	1904
OF	Kip Selbach	Draft	 $3,000,000 	1901	-	1904
P 	[SIZE=1]Deacon Phillippe[/SIZE]	Draft	 $10,000,000 	1901	-	1907
P 	Harry Howell	Draft	 $4,000,000 	1901	-	1905
P	Bill Duggleby	Draft	 $3,000,000 	1901	-	1905
P	Chick Fraser	Draft	 $2,000,000 	1901	-	1905
P	Ed Murphy	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1903
P	Happy Townsend	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1901	-	1904
P	Oscar Jones	Draft	 $1,500,000 	1903	-	1905
P	Barney Wolfe	Draft	 $1,000,000 	1903	-	1906
P	Charlie Smith	Draft	 $500,000 	1902	-	1908
P	Alex Pearson	Draft	 $250,000 	1902	-	1903
P	Jack Doscher	Draft	 $250,000 	1903	-	1908
Players		            24	 $81,250,000 			
						
	Draft Picks Traded To	Year	 Round 			
	None					
						
	Draft Picks Traded From	Year	 Round 			
	Spiders	1905	 1

[Sockeye]

Anaheim Angels roster

SP: Rube Waddell, 15.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905 (RFA)
SP: Joe McGinnity, 10.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
SP: Bill Dinneen, 8.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
SP: Tully Sparks, 7.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 6 years, exp 1906
SP: Bill Bernhard, 6.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
SP: Kid Nichols, 5.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
SP: Bob Wicker, 4.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 5 years, exp 1905
SP: Addie Joss, 3.00M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
SP: Mordecai Brown, 3.00M Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years. exp 1909
RF: Ducky Holmes, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
2B: George Magoon, 2.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
SP: Rube Vickers, 1.50M Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
SP: Jack Pfiester, 1.50M Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years, exp 1909
1B: John Ganzel, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
SS: Dave Brain, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 4 years, exp 1904
C: Jack Warner, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
3B: Jimmy Burke, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
C: Fred Jacklitsch, 1.00M Contract, 1901 draft/trade, 3 years, exp 1903
1B: Charlie Carr, 0.75K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
SP: Rube Kisinger, 0.75K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
SP: Kaiser Wilhelm, 0.75K Contract, 1903 draft, 7 years, exp 1909
C: Fritz Buelow, 0.50K Contract, 1901 draft, 3 years, exp 1903
SP: Martin Glendon, 0.50K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
SP: Jesse Stovall, 0.50K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908
OF: Harry Arndt, 0.25K Contract, 1902 draft, 7 years, exp 1908

25 Players = 77.00M

[leecemark]

Seattle Dragons
1) RF Sam Crawford (1901-08) 15.0
2) 3B Jimmy Collins (1901-05) 10.0, player-manager
3) SP Jesse Tannehill (1901-05) 8.0
4) 2B Jimmy Williams (1901-06) 7.0
5) SS Kid Elberfeld (1901-06) 6.0
6) SP Ned Garvin (1901-1904) 6.0
7) SP Ed Siever (1901-1903) 5.0
8) SP Clark Griffith (1901-1905) 4.0
9) LF John Anderson (1901-1905) 4.0
10) OF Duff Cooley (1901-1905) 2.0
11) SP Jock Menefee (1901-1903) 2.0
12) C Duke Farrell (1901-1903) 2.0
13) 1B Candy LaChance (1901-1904) 1.0
14) 2B Shad Barry (1901-1903) 1.0
15) Brickyard Kennedy (1901-1903) .75
16) Aleck Smith (1901-1903) .50
17) Jimmy Sebring(1902-1905) ,75
18) Jimmy Morrissey (1902-03) .25
19) John Malarkey (1902-03) 9.0
20) C Ossee Schrecongest (1901-05) $4.0
21) IF Charlie Babb (1903D), 1.0
22) OF Bil Keister (1903T) 5.0
23) C Fred Abbott (1902D) .50
24) P Grant Thatcher (1902D) .25



24 players for 94.75

--I don't expect to be much of a player in this auction. Maybe crappy, overpaid signing and 5 minimum wage roster fillers. Thankfully my roster is already pretty well set.

[dust bunnies]

Kalamazoo Kumquats 1903 Roster (amended 12/13/2012)

George Barclay draft 02 $0.25
Jake Beckley FA 01-04 $6.00
Honus Wagner FA 01-08 $15.00
Mike Donlin FA 01-05 $7.00
Red Dooin draft 02 $0.50
Patsy Dougherty draft 02 $2.50
Jack Doyle FA 01-03 $1.00
Kid Gleason FA 01-04 $2.00
Jack Sutthoff FA 01-03 $2.00
Billy Lauder FA 01-03 $0.75
Bobby Lowe FA 01-03 $0.75
Pat Moran FA 01-03 $3.00
Jack O'Brien FA 01-03 $1.00
Cy Seymour FA 01-05 $8.00
Harry Steinfeldt FA 01-03 $5.00
George Moriarity draft 03 $0.50
Hunter Hill draft 03 $0.25
Fred Carisch draft 03 $0.25
Mal Eason FA 01-03 $1.00
Sam Leever FA 01-08 $15.00
George Mullin draft 02 $3.00
Casey Patten FA 01-05 $2.00
Bill Phillips FA 01-03 $2.00
Bob Rhodes draft 02 $1.50
Doc White FA 01-08 $10.00
Gene Wright FA 01-03 $0.50
Cy Falkenberg draft 03 $1.00
Fred Burchell draft 03 $0.25

28 players at $92.00

[scubadan]

Is a player who is inactive in 1903 but who had playing time prior to 1903 eligible to be bid on as a free agent? This question always comes up in various leagues and I didn't see an answer in our rules.

[catcher24]

Is a player who is inactive in 1903 but who had playing time prior to 1903 eligible to be bid on as a free agent? This question always comes up in various leagues and I didn't see an answer in our rules.

Dan, I believe that Rich said last year when the same issue came up that you could NOT bid on a player that did not play in a given season. Naturally if you already own the rights to a player that didn't play in a given season you can carry him on the roster, but I'm pretty sure Rich said you can't bid on any player that's a free agent but doesn't actually appear in the upcoming season. If that's not right I'm sure Rich will correct me.

[catcher24]

Express Roster and Cap Space

Nick Altrock, P 14.5M 1902 FA Five years 02-06 (via trade)
Andy Coakley, P 2.5M 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
Ernie Courtney*, Utl 500K 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
Monte Cross, SS 1M 1901 Draft Three years 01-03 (via trade)
Red Donahue, P 7M Draft Three years 1901-1903
Patsy Donovan*, OF 3M Draft Three years 1901-1903
Danny Green*, OF 6M Draft Four years 1901-1904
Tom Hughes, P 2M Draft Five years 1901-1905
Joe Martin, Inf 250K 1903 Rookie 03-09
Roy Patterson, P 4M Draft Five years 1901-1905
Ambrose Puttmann, P 500K 1903 Rookie 03-09
Jimmy Sheckard*, OF 10M Draft Five years 1901-1905 RFA eligible
Jake Stahl, 1B 2M 1903 Rookie 03-09
Tom Walker, P 1000 1902 Rookie 1902-1908
Jake Weimer*, P 2500 1903 Rookie 02-09
Vic Willis, P 8M Draft Six years 1901-1906
Harry Wolverton*, 3B 2M Draft Four years 1901-1904

17 Players 66.75M

[catcher24]

35 man rosters going into the season, 130% playing time in 1903. Is that correct?

Also, did we decide to reduce the number of PAs/BFs from 100 to a smaller number in order to have a guy in the lineup from 1901-1903? Seems like we did, but I might be thinking of CKL during the 1981 strike season.

[leecemark]

--As far as I recall you can not have a guy with less than 100 serving as anything but an injury replacment, although they will be active to jump in for in-sim injuries. I don't remember the roster increase from 30-35 either. Hope that is a max not a requirement, because there really don't seem to be enough players to support that roster size.

[rmadachik]

due to the limited number of available players the minimum roster requirement is 30. owners are required to have enough plate appearances and innings to cover the season though.

[Sockeye]

Taking bets on how big a salary Patsy Flaherty draws. My bet is 25M

He sure would make a nice mopup guy for our 1904 staff! :o

[buppers]

INMATES ROSTER

# Player Contract 1903
1 Ames, Red 1903-R01-07 2.000
2 Casey, Doc 1901-R12-04 2.000
3 Clark, Boileryard 1901-R10-03 2.000
4 Davis, Harry 1901-R04-06 7.000
5 Deering, John 1903-R04-01 0.250
6 Donovan, Bill 1901-R03-05 8.000
7 Evans, Roy 1902-FA-02 5.500
8 Gessler, Doc 1903-R01-07 2.500
9 Hemphill, Charlie 1901-R11-03 2.000
10 Hess, Otto 1902-R01-07 2.500
11 Hulswitt, Rudy 1902-FA-04 5.000
12 Lajoie, Nap 1901-R01-08 15.000
13 McCormick, Barry 1901-R19-03 0.750
14 McFarland, Chappie1902-R03-05 0.500
15 McFarland, Herm 1901-R08-03 3.000
16 Moran, Charles 1903-R03-03 0.500
17 O'Neill, Mike 1901-R09-04 2.000
18 Phelps, Ed 1902-R02-05 1.000
19 Piatt, Wiley 1901-R13-03 1.000
20 Reidy, Bill 1901-R15-03 1.000
21 Ryan, Jimmy 1902-FA-02 15.000
22 Smoot, Homer 1902-R01-05 2.500
23 Strang, Sammy 1901-R06-03 5.000
24 Tannehill, Lee 1903-R02-07 0.750
25 Thomas, Roy 1901-R02-06 10.000
26 Weaver, Art 1902-FA-02 0.250
TOTAL 97.000

[catcher24]

owners are required to have enough plate appearances and innings to cover the season though.

What figures are you using Rich? I won't have any problem with innings, but I can see some serious issues with PAs, especially at a couple of positions I need to fill. What happens if I don't get sufficient PAs at a particular position? I'm not trying to be difficult, but I can see a real issue for me at one position. I don't think it will even be possible to get enough PAs there.