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    Baseball Fever Hall of Fame (BBFHoF) - Rules and Guidelines

    Statement of Purpose
    The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame (BBFHoF) was established to honor the greatest players and contributors in baseball history. We seek to match our wits against those of the National Hall of Fame in Cooperstown by comparing and contrasting our selections to their own. Our electors vote monthly until we get closer to matching the number of inductees in Cooperstown.

    Voter Qualifications
    Voters must be members of Baseball Fever in good standing and must consent to adhere to the rules laid out within this document, including the commitment to give reasonable time and thought to their ballots. All prospective participants should read these rules and guidelines before joining the discussion or casting a ballot!

    Types and Frequency of Elections
    We hold separate monthly elections for former players and contributors. Ballots are accepted through the 25th of each month. Results are posted after the 25th and a new election thread will be posted by the 1st of every month.

    Candidate Eligibility
    Major, Negro, and Japanese League players retired before 2005 are eligible for election on the Players’ Ballot. To be eligible for the Contributors’ Ballot, an individual must be retired, or be past his 60th birthday. Induction in either category excludes an individual from further consideration in the other.

    Assembling a Ballot
    Voters may submit either ballot or both. All ballots should be cast in the active Election thread. Candidates should be listed in alphabetical order. Voters are asked to list the 25 players and/or 15 contributors most worthy of election.

    Player candidates are to be considered for their performance as a player and its impact on their team’s record. Contributor candidates are to be considered for the quality and impact of their contributions to their team/s, league/s and the Game in general.

    Voters are instructed to vote for a full ballot in any election in which they choose to participate until the BBF Hall of Fame reaches 90% of the capacity of the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. Ballots with fewer than 25 (or 15) candidates submitted before that time will, at my discretion, be discounted.

    All ballots following the above guidelines will be tabulated at the end of the month. Candidates receiving support on at least 75% of the ballots will be inducted into the BBFHoF.

    If a voter wishes to pledge support for an unspecified negro or japanese league player, the voter may insert the following line into his ballot (in lieu of a specific player): "leading non-MLB player". This may further be designated as either "leading negro leaguer" or "leading japanese leaguer", in accordance with the wishes of the voter. When ballots are tallied, any such vote - and there can be more than one per ballot - will be alloted to the leading vote-getter among candidates of that type and distributed, per instructions, by Chancellor when the results are tallied. This rule was added in recognition that there are some well-intentioned, but less knowledgeable negro/japanese league enthusiasts who still wish to participate but don't necessarily have the time to do so.

    We encourage voters to explain both the omission of any candidates who received two-thirds of the vote in the previous election, and the choice of a candidate who has not yet received a vote. These are suggestions – they are designed solely to facilitate critical thinking on the part of the electorate – and are best carried out in the Discussion forum.

    BBFHoF Threads
    Three BBFHoF threads remain “stickied” at all times.

    The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame thread contains assorted lists of candidate, election, inductee and voter data. This is updated by Chancellor upon the conclusion of each election.

    The BBFHoF: Discussion thread is a general purpose thread for the discussion of anything related to the BBFHoF. This is the place for questions, petitions, debate and discussion. We are proud to announce that, with over 50,000 views and nearly 3,000 posts, it is one of the longest running threads on Baseball Fever.

    The BBFHoF Monthly Election thread is where to post your ballot (and only your ballot.) This thread is replenished each month for each new election.

    Existing Members of the BBFHoF
    The 155 players and 42 contributors who comprise the Baseball Fever Hall of Fame:

    Pitchers
    Pete Alexander, Bert Blyleven, Mordecai Brown, Steve Carlton, John Clarkson, Dennis Eckersley, Bob Feller, Whitey Ford, Pud Galvin, Bob Gibson, Goose Gossage, Lefty Grove, Carl Hubbell, Ferguson Jenkins, Walter Johnson, Masaichi Kaneda, Tim Keefe, Sandy Koufax, Juan Marichal, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Hal Newhouser, Kid Nichols, Phil Niekro, Satchel Paige, Jim Palmer, Gaylord Perry, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Robin Roberts, Joe Rogan, Amos Rusie, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Warren Spahn, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh, Hoyt Wilhelm, Joe Williams, Cy Young

    Catchers
    Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Gary Carter, Mickey Cochrane, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing, Carlton Fisk, Josh Gibson, Gabby Hartnett, Biz Mackey, Louis Santop, Ted Simmons

    First Basemen
    Dick Allen, Cap Anson, Dan Brouthers, Roger Connor, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Hank Greenberg, Buck Leonard, Willie McCovey, Mark McGwire, Johnny Mize, Eddie Murray, Sadaharu Oh, George Sisler, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry

    Second Basemen
    Roberto Alomar, Rod Carew, Eddie Collins, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer, Rogers Hornsby, Nap Lajoie, Joe Morgan, Jackie Robinson, Ryne Sandberg

    Third Basemen
    Frank Baker, Wade Boggs, George Brett, Jimmy Collins, Ray Dandridge, Harmon Killebrew, Eddie Mathews, Paul Molitor, Brooks Robinson, Ron Santo, Mike Schmidt, Pie Traynor

    Shortstops
    Luke Appling, Ernie Banks, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Barry Larkin, Pop Lloyd, Cal Ripken Jr., Ozzie Smith, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner, Willie Wells, Robin Yount

    Left Fielders
    Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke, Ed Delahanty, Goose Goslin, Rickey Henderson, Monte Irvin, Joe Jackson, Ralph Kiner, Joe Medwick, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial, Jim O'Rourke, Tim Raines, Al Simmons, Willie Stargell, Zach Wheat, Billy Williams, Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski

    Center Fielders
    Richie Ashburn, Cool Papa Bell, Oscar Charleston, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Larry Doby, Billy Hamilton, Paul Hines, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Duke Snider, Tris Speaker, Turkey Stearnes

    Right Fielders
    Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sam Crawford, Martin Dihigo, Tony Gwynn, Harry Heilmann, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, Willie Keeler, King Kelly, Mel Ott, Frank Robinson, Pete Rose, Babe Ruth, Sam Thompson, Christobal Torriente, Paul Waner, Dave Winfield

    Managers
    Walter Alston, Sparky Anderson, Bobby Cox, Leo Durocher, Ned Hanlon, Whitey Herzog, Miller Huggins, Tony LaRussa, Tommy Lasorda, Al Lopez, Connie Mack, Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Bill McKechnie, Frank Selee, Billy Southworth, Casey Stengel, Joe Torre, Earl Weaver, Dick Williams

    Executives
    Ed Barrow, William Hulbert, Ban Johnson, Cum Posey, Branch Rickey, Albert Spalding, Bill Veeck

    Pioneers
    Doc Adams, Sy Berger, Alexander Cartwright, Henry Chadwick, Charles Conlon, Rube Foster, Marvin Miller, John Montgomery Ward, Harry Wright

    Broadcasters
    Mel Allen, Red Barber

    Writers
    Bill James, Francis Richter, J.G. Taylor Spink

    Umpires
    Bill Klem

    Contact
    Please direct all questions, comments, suggestions or bribes to Chancellor via Private Message. Many questions can also be answered by reading these rules and/or asking our many knowledgeable voters in the Discussion thread.
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

  • #2
    Players' Ballot
    Lou Boudreau
    Ken Boyer
    Lou Brock
    Ray Brown
    Stan Coveleski
    Will Clark
    Andre Dawson
    Dizzy Dean
    Bobby Grich
    Isao Harimoto
    Billy Herman
    Bob Lemon

    Ted Lyons
    Sherry Magee
    Edgar Martinez
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Katsuya Nomura
    Kirby Puckett
    Dick Redding
    Pee Wee Reese
    Enos Slaughter
    Alan Trammell
    Mickey Welch
    Deacon White
    Jud Wilson

    Contributors' Ballot
    Frank Chance
    Charlie Comiskey
    Jack Dunn
    John B. Foster
    Bob Howsam
    Dave Johnson

    Tetsuharu Kawakami
    Kenesaw M. Landis
    Larry MacPhail
    Walter O’Malley
    Billy Martin
    John Schuerholz
    George Steinbrenner
    George Weiss
    J.L. Wilkinson
    Last edited by Chadwick; 01-26-2006, 05:06 AM.
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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    • #3
      My January ballot

      key:
      red=Japanese League
      blue=Negro Leagues
      green=19th century

      My ballot had all the inductees this month but Collins (Ashburn, Hines, Larkin, Wheat, Ted Simmons, and Waddell among the players, and Richter, Herzog, LaRussa, and Dick Williams on the contributor side). I've decided to put in Haray Caray as my new Media category contributor, and to add executives Larry MacPhail and Shoriki and Lefty O'Doul as a pioneer.

      On the player side, I've decided to make my Tony Mullane spot a reliever/pre 60 foot 6 inch rule pitcher spot instead, but leave Mullane there at least this month. My catcher to replace Ted Simmons will be Bill Freehan. Larkin had been a third shortstop and I haven't had a nominal first baseman for some time. I've decided to put Hiromitsu Ochiai in that spot, though he's a 1B/3B guy. I had three outfielders elected, but I was carrying one extra and one fewer pitcher. I've decided to replace them with two outfielders and, because we elected a pitcher in Waddell, two pitchers. The two outfielders I'll go with are Harry Stovey and Dave Parker, and the two pitchers Cannonball Dick Redding and Burleigh Grimes

      Contributors:


      1. Ed Bolden (Negro Leagues owner/commissioner)
      2. Harry Caray
      3. Frank Chance
      4. Vic Harris
      5. Hughie Jennings
      6. Dr. Jobe
      7. Tetsuharu Kawakami (managed the Yomiuri Giants to nine consecutive Japan Series wins, 11 Japan Series wins in 11 tries, never under .500 in 14 seasons managed)
      8. Kennesaw Mountain Landis
      9. Larry MacPhail
      10. Shigeru Mizuhara (Japan)
      11. Lefty O'Doul
      12. Matsutaro Shoriki (Japan)
      13. C. I. Taylor
      14. Kazuto Tsuruoka (managed 23 years in Japan, most wins by a manager in Japan, 11 pennants, 2 before Japan Series began, won 2 Japan Series titles, .500 or better 21 times)
      15. J. L. Wilkerson


      Players

      1. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
      2. Lou Brock. of
      3. Ray Brown p
      4. Bill Freehan, c
      5. Joe Gordon, 2b
      6. Burleigh Grimes, p
      7. Isao Harimoto, of (Japan)
      8. Billy Herman 2b
      9. Kazuhisa Inao p (Japan)
      10. Sherry Magee, of
      11. Tony Mullane, p
      12. Shigeo Nagashima 3b (Japan)
      13. Katsuya Nomura c (Japan)
      14. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
      15. Dave Parker, of
      16. Cannonball Dick Redding
      17. Pee Wee Reese ss
      18. Red Ruffing p
      19. Enos Slaughter, OF
      20. Victor Starffin p (Japan)
      21. Harry Stovey, of
      22. Alan Trammell, ss
      23. Deacon White, 3b
      24. Jud Wilson IF
      25. Early Wynn. p

      Jim Albright
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

      Comment


      • #4
        Players' Ballot

        Lou Boudreau
        Lou Brock
        Ray Brown
        Jim Bunning
        Stan Coveleski
        Andre Dawson
        Leon Day
        Dizzy Dean
        Don Drysdale
        Burleigh Grimes
        Chick Hafey
        Billy Herman
        Judy Johnson
        Bob Lemon
        Ted Lyons
        Sherry Magee
        Edgar Martinez
        Bill Mazeroski
        Katsuya Nomura
        Dick Redding
        Red Ruffing
        Enos Slaughter
        Hilton Smith
        Alan Trammell
        Wally Yonamine

        Contributors' Ballot

        Al Barlick
        Harry Caray
        Frank Chance
        Happy Chandler
        Charlie Comiskey
        Jocko Conlan
        Tom Connally
        John B. Foster
        Doug Harvey
        Bowie Kuhn
        Larry MacPhail
        Walter O’Malley
        Billy Martin
        C.I. Taylor
        J.L. Wilkinson
        Last edited by egautographs; 12-26-2005, 08:15 PM.

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        • #5
          shouldn't this thread be made "sticky"?

          Jim Albright
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

          Comment


          • #6
            shouldn't this thread be made "sticky"?
            Done. Sorry 'bout that.
            "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
            "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
            "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
            "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

            Comment


            • #7
              Earl Averill
              Albert Belle
              Lou Boudreau
              Lou Brock
              Stan Coveleski
              Kiki Cuyler
              Andre Dawson
              Leon Day
              Dizzy Dean
              Rollie Fingers
              Willie Foster
              Judy Johnson
              Addie Joss
              Chuck Klein
              Bob Lemon
              Sherry Magee
              Heinie Manush
              Katsuya Nomura
              Kirby Puckett
              Sam Rice
              Edd Roush
              Hilton Smith
              Victor Starffin
              Bruce Sutter
              Mickey Welch





              Non-Players

              Happy Chandler
              Frank Chance
              Jocko Conlan
              Tom Connolly
              Billy Evans
              Clark Griffith
              Ernie Harwell
              Cal Hubbard
              Kenesaw Mountain Landis
              Ring Lardner
              Larry MacPhail
              Buck O'Neill
              Grantland Rice
              Red Smith
              J.L. Wilkinson
              Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
              Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
              Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
              Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
              Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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              • #8
                JAN : I'm adding Tony Mullane, Lefty Gomez, Frank Chance, and Charles Comiskey

                Ross Barnes
                Albert Belle
                Tommy Bond
                Lou Brock
                Ray Brown
                Pete Browning
                Orlando Cepeda
                Andre Dawson
                Hugh Duffy
                Lefty Gomez
                Judy Johnson
                Chuck Klein
                Edgar Martinez
                Bobby Mathews
                Jim McCormick
                Fred McGriff
                Tony Mullane
                Katsuya Nomura
                Jim Rice
                Sam Rice
                Harry Stovey
                Don Sutton
                Mickey Welch
                Hack Wilson
                Early Wynn
                -------------------
                Buck Canel
                Harry Caray
                Frank Chance
                Charles Comiskey
                Tom Connolly
                Ford Frick
                Hugh Fullerton
                Ted Giannoulas
                Ernie Harwell
                Kenesaw Mountain Landis
                Larry MacPhail
                A.G. Mills
                Walter O'Malley
                George Steinbrenner
                George Wright

                Comment


                • #9
                  January 2006 ballot

                  Earl Averill
                  Lou Boudreau
                  Lou Brock
                  Ray Brown
                  Jim Bunning
                  Max Carey
                  Stan Coveleski
                  Andre Dawson
                  Wes Ferrell
                  Rollie Fingers
                  Willie Foster
                  Elmer Flick
                  Bobby Grich
                  Billy Herman
                  Sherry Magee
                  Shigeo Nagashima
                  Katsuya Nomura
                  Kirby Puckett
                  Pee Wee Reese
                  Enos Slaughter
                  Alan Trammell
                  Bobby Wallace
                  Deacon White
                  Jud Wilson
                  George Wright

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Players' Ballot

                    Earl Averill
                    Jake Beckley
                    Albert Belle
                    Lou Brock
                    Pete Browning
                    Ray Brown
                    Stan Coveleski
                    Andre Dawson
                    Dizzy Dean
                    Rollie Fingers
                    Willie Foster
                    Billy Herman
                    Addie Joss
                    Chuck Klein
                    Sherry Magee
                    Carl Mays
                    Don Newcombe
                    Katsuya Nomura
                    Dave Parker
                    Pee Wee Reese
                    Jim Rice
                    Bruce Sutter
                    Alan Trammell
                    Mickey Welch
                    Deacon White

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Player
                      1. Ross Barnes (2nd time)
                      2. Jake Beckley (8th time)
                      3. Lou Brock (5th time)
                      4. Ray Brown (1st time)
                      5. Pete Browning (8th time)
                      6. Hugh Duffy (2nd time)
                      7. Nellie Fox (5th time)
                      8. Stan Hack (5th time)
                      9. Billy Herman (6th time)
                      10. Addie Joss (1st time)
                      11. Chuck Klein (10th time)
                      12. Bob Lemon (8th time)
                      13. Sherry Magee (1st time)
                      14. Heinie Manush (3rd time)
                      15. Don Mattingly (12th time)
                      16. Bid McPhee (2nd time)
                      17. Kirby Puckett (12th time)
                      18. Sam Rice (10th time)
                      19. Joe Sewell (11th time)
                      20. Don Sutton (1st time)
                      21. Mickey Welch (9th time)
                      22. Deacon White (2nd time)
                      23. Jud Wilson (1st time)
                      24. George Wright (2nd time)
                      25. Hack Wilson (5th time)

                      non player
                      1. Frank Chance (8th time)
                      2. Jack Dunn (3rd time)
                      3. Charlie Grimm (6th time)
                      4. Vic Harris (7th time)
                      5. Hughie Jennings (6th time)
                      6. Billy Martin (8th time)
                      7. Larry MacPhail (1st time)
                      8. Johnny Pesky (1st time)
                      9. Lou Piniella (5th time)
                      10. Red Schoendienst (8th time)
                      Last edited by yest; 01-16-2006, 10:10 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Bold denotes that I am inflexible about candidate and Hall worthiness.

                        Luis Aparicio
                        Earl Averill
                        Jake Beckley
                        Albert Belle
                        Lou Brock
                        Williard Brown (No, I didn't mean Ray Brown)
                        Lou Boudreau
                        Jim (horrible senator) Bunning
                        Kiki Cuyler
                        Andre Dawson
                        Dizzy Dean
                        Bobby Doerr
                        Don Drysdale
                        Bill Foster
                        Burleigh Grimes
                        Billy Herman
                        Bob Lemon
                        Sherry Magee
                        Heinie Manush
                        Kirby Puckett
                        Dick Redding
                        Sam Rice
                        Edd Roush
                        Red Ruffing
                        Hilton Smith



                        Non-Players

                        Harry Carry
                        Frank Chance
                        Charles Comisky
                        Gus Greenlee
                        Ernie Harwell
                        Vic Harris
                        Hughie Jennings
                        Jude Kennisaw Landis
                        Larry Macphail
                        Walter O Malley
                        Billy Martin
                        Danny Murtaugh
                        Buck O' Neill
                        Grantland Rice
                        Red Shoendienst

                        Edit: Sorry for the idiotic mistakes. Added Grimes and Drysdale as players and added Danny Murtaugh as a contributor.
                        Last edited by pretorius; 12-29-2005, 09:45 PM.
                        "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"

                        Gen. Patton

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          PLAYERS

                          Lou Boudreau
                          Ken Boyer
                          Lou Brock
                          Pete Browning
                          Andre Dawson
                          Dizzy Dean
                          Bobby Doerr
                          Willie Foster
                          Bill Freehan
                          Joe Gordon
                          Bobby Grich
                          Judy Johnson
                          Addie Joss
                          Chuck Klein
                          Sherry Magee
                          Edgar Martinez
                          Don Mattingly
                          Shigeo Nagashima
                          Katsuya Nomura
                          Kirby Puckett
                          Harry Stovey
                          Bruce Sutter
                          Alan Trammell
                          Deacon White
                          Jud Wilson

                          CONTRIBUTORS

                          Harry Caray
                          Frank Chance
                          Charles Comiskey
                          Jacques Doucet: He was for 33 years, from 1972 to 2004, the legendary French radio play-by-play voice for the Montreal Expos. Over his career, Doucet described more than 5,500 Major League Baseball games … He’s the most important icon in association with the Expos. He also did a tremendous and essential job while taking part in the translation of an American baseball game to a different language and culture. He generated passions, dreams, emotions, love for baseball for every French-Canadian-baseball-and-Expos-fans.
                          He is Mel Allen, he is Red Barber for us.

                          Curt Flood
                          John B. Foster
                          Clark Griffith
                          Judge Landis
                          Larry MacPhail
                          Billy Martin
                          Lefty O’Doul
                          Walter O’Malley
                          Buck O'Neill
                          C.I. Taylor
                          J.L. Wilkinson

                          :gt
                          Nos Amours! ... 1969-2004

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pretorius
                            Joe McGinnity
                            Sam Thompson

                            Billy Southworth
                            I think these guys are in, pretorius.
                            Last edited by dgarza; 12-29-2005, 07:31 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dgarza
                              I think these guys are in, pretorius.
                              Everyone, save Harwell.
                              Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
                              Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                              Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                              Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                              Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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