Do you think closers belong in the HOF?

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Maybe this has been discussed before, but I can't remember and I can't find anything about it. But I was wondering how you all think about closers to be inducted into the HOF.

IMO they should be inducted to the HOF because they are a substantial part of the game nowadays.

[digglahhh]

I think its okay to include them, but be selective, very selective.

[Larry Bigbie]

Well,

if they are deserving sure. I think you'd be crazy to say Rivera dosen't belong in the HOF. Relievers to, like Goose Goosage he's deserving.

[Naliamegod]

Yes, though I'm a bit tougher on them.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

I find it odd that the HoF should exclude certain players based on what they do on the field. That makes no sense.

[Blackout]

only the best, such as the man in my signature (and i dont mean 2pac)

[KCGHOST]

The idea of a closer getting in the HoF is not repugnant to me. What upsets me is someone getting in who doesn't pitch any real amount of innings. I'd like to see a reliefer at least hurl 1500 quality innings.

[ElHalo]

The idea of a closer getting in the HoF is not repugnant to me. What upsets me is someone getting in who doesn't pitch any real amount of innings. I'd like to see a reliefer at least hurl 1500 quality innings.

Mo's not going to get anywhere near that many innings. Can you honestly tell me you don't think he's Hall worthy?

[RuthMayBond]

The idea of a closer getting in the HoF is not repugnant to me. What upsets me is someone getting in who doesn't pitch any real amount of innings. I'd like to see a reliefer at least hurl 1500 quality innings.

You're gonna have about four relievers at most in the Hall?

[jrbdmb]

Based on current HOF Monitor stats, Rivera is the only closer who should be considered a shoo-in for the HOF (152). Lee Smith is a too-close-to-call (136), Gossage (126) and Trevor Hoffman (119) are probably in the close-but-no-cigar camp.

Which seems about right to me - Rivera and Smith in, Gossage borderline.

[RuthMayBond]

Based on current HOF Monitor stats, Rivera is the only closer who should be considered a shoo-in for the HOF (152). Lee Smith is a too-close-to-call (136), Gossage (126) and Trevor Hoffman (119) are probably in the close-but-no-cigar camp.

Which seems about right to me - Rivera and Smith in, Gossage borderline.

If a likely HOFer is 100, what's wrong with 126? Monitor seems to underrate Wilhelm, what about Franco and Fingers?

[SABR Matt]

Not Franco...average reliever put in non-average situations...John Franco is not a hallf of famer.

Wilhelm is though...and few seem to recognize just how good he was.

[RuthMayBond]

Not Franco...average reliever put in non-average situations...John Franco is not a hallf of famer.

Wilhelm is though...and few seem to recognize just how good he was.

I was referring to going by Hall of Fame Monitor. Hoffman doesn't have that many IP under his belt and he might not look that great if he goes into a major downturn.

[ElHalo]

Not Franco...average reliever put in non-average situations...John Franco is not a hallf of famer.

Wilhelm is though...and few seem to recognize just how good he was.

Yes, Wilhelm was a fantastic reliever. That you have him ranked behind Billy Wagner I find somewhat baffling.

[hudsonharden]

Yes. They should have the same standrads as every other player.