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    Albright BBF HOF voting guide for February 2006

    key:
    blue=Negro Leagues
    red=Japanese leagues
    green=19th century
    orange=not even in my queue
    italics= not on my ballot for this month

    Received 50% or more of the vote last month:
    Players: Andre Dawson (70), , Kirby Puckett (70), Ray Brown (67), Deacon White (67), Stan Coveleski (52), Dizzy Dean (67), Lou Boudreau (59), Billy Herman (59), Willie Foster (52), Bobby Grich (52), Jud Wilson (52)

    Contributors: Kennesaw Landis (76), Ernie Harwell (59), Griffith (55), J. L. Wilkinson (59), Walter O'Malley (68), Charlie Commiskey (64), C. I. Taylor (55), Jack Dunn (50), Billy Martin (50), Buck O'Neill (50)

    Categories below this will have 1) all players with 50% or more of the votes last month (percentages from last month will follow their names in parentheses), 2) all players on my ballot, and 3) if there are no players in the category with over 50% of the vote last month, the leading vote getter in the category will be listed with his percentage of the vote last month in parentheses, so long as he received at least five (5) votes.

    Negro League Pitcher Ray Brown (67), Cannonball Dick Redding (37), Willie Foster (52)

    Negro League Hitters Jud Wilson (52)

    19th century pitcher Tony Mullane, Mickey Welch (48)

    19th century hitter: Deacon White (67),

    Japanese pitcher: Kazuhisa Inao (22), Victor Starffin (22), Akira Bessho

    Japanese hitter: Shigeo Nagashima (37), Isao Harimoto, Hiromitsu Ochiai

    My ballot by position plus leading vote getters
    Catcher: Bill Freehan (33)
    First Base: Hiromitsu Ochiai, Jake Beckley (22)
    Second Base: Billy Herman (59), Bobby Grich (52), Joe Gordon (22)
    Third Base: Deacon White (67), Shigeo Nagashima (37), Jud Wilson (52),
    Shortstop: Pee Wee Reese (48), Lou Boudreau (59)
    Outfield: Isao Harimoto, Enos Slaughter (48), Kirby Puckett (70), Andre Dawson (70), Harry Stovey, Dave Parker (26)
    Starting Pitcher: Ray Brown (67) , Kazuhisa Inao (22), Victor Starffin (22), Early Wynn (33), Akira Bessho, Burleigh Grimes (22), Cannonball Dick Redding (37), Willie Foster (52), Stan Coveleski (52), Dizzy Dean (67)
    Relief pitcher Bruce Sutter (37), Rollie Fingers (37)

    Contributors
    Managers: Hughie Jennings (42), Tetsuharu Kawakami (25), C. I. Taylor (25), Kazuto Tsuruoka, Shigeru Mizuhara, Billy Martin
    Executives: Kennesaw Mountain Landis (67), Ed Bolden (21), J. L. Wilkerson (50), Matsutaro Shoriki, Clark Griffith (63), Walter O'Malley
    Pioneers: Dr. Jobe, Lefty O'Doul
    Media: Ernie Harwell (58), Harry Caray


    Plugs for first time player candidates will appear in the discussion thread, and I will create a thread which will provide the plugs for all the holdovers on my ballot not covered in the discussion thread this month.

    Jim Albright
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  • #2
    Here's a set of links to the new players on my ballot

    Dizzy Dean: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=216

    Lou Boudreau: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=223

    Willie Foster: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=53

    Bobby Grich: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=203

    Jim Albright
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

    Comment


    • #3
      Negro Leaguers

      Pitchers

      Willie Foster: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=53

      Cannonball Dick Redding: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=52

      Position player

      Jud Wilson: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=51
      Last edited by jalbright; 03-04-2006, 02:13 PM.
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

      Comment


      • #4
        19th century players

        Pitcher: Mickey Welch is not even in my queue

        Position players:

        George Wright:

        Harry Stovey: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=210
        Last edited by jalbright; 03-04-2006, 02:00 PM.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

        Comment


        • #5
          Japanese Players

          Pitchers

          Kazuhisa Inao: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=178

          Victor Starffin: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=179

          Akira Bessho: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=189


          Position Players

          Shigeo Nagashima: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=183

          Isao Harimoto: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=184

          Hiromitsu Ochiai: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=190
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

          Comment


          • #6
            Position players other than outfielders


            Catcher

            Bill Freehan: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=213

            First Base

            Jake Beckley, who's not even in my queue

            Hiromitsu Ochiai: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=190


            Second Base

            Bobby Grich http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=203

            Joe Gordon: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=202


            Third Base:

            Jud Wilson: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=51

            Shigeo Nagashima: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=183

            Stan Hack: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=222


            Shortstop

            Lou Boudreau: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=223

            Pee Wee Reese: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=114

            George Wright: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=98
            Last edited by jalbright; 03-04-2006, 02:15 PM.
            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

            Comment


            • #7
              Outfielders and Pitchers

              Outfielders

              Kirby Puckett is in my queue but not on my ballot

              Isao Harimoto: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=184

              Enos Slaughter: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=148

              Harry Stovey: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=210

              Dave Parker: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=196

              Pitchers:

              Cannonball Dick Redding: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=52

              Willie Foster: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=53

              Dizzy Dean: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=216

              Kazuhisa Inao: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=178

              Victor Starffin: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=179

              Early Wynn: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=144

              Red Ruffing: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=186

              Akira Bessho: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=189

              Burleigh Grimes: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=214

              Rollie Fingers:

              Stan Coveleski:
              Last edited by jalbright; 03-04-2006, 02:02 PM.
              Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
              Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
              A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

              Comment


              • #8
                posts on Contributors:

                Ed Bolden: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=25

                C. I. Taylor http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=24

                J. L. Wilkinson http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...3&postcount=26

                Lefty O'Doul http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=212

                Matsutaro Shoriki http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.p...&postcount=212
                Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Other contributors
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                  Pioneer
                  Dr. Jobe His invention of the Tommy John surgery has saved countless pitching careers, including, of course, Tommy John's.
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                  Media
                  Harry Caray Though his status as a Chicago baseball mainstay is important, lots of announcers have that qualification and I'm not voting for them. What sets Harry apart in my mind is his role in popularizing the use of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" for the seventh inning stretch. Put the two together, and I think he qualifies.

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                  Japanese managers
                  Success points are a Bill James creation. The numbers given are not discounted in any way, and are from a system I modeled on James' system, but isn't identical to it.

                  Kazuto Tsuruoka Manager's Success Points: 70
                  He is Japan's winningest manager, with 1807 regular season victories to his credit as well as a .609 winning percentage. His teams were over .500 in 21 of the 23 seasons he managed, and he won 11 pennants. In those 11 pennants was a stretch of 4 pennants in five years and another stretch of 4 pennants in six years.

                  Tetsuharu Kawakami Manager's Success Points: 60
                  He managed fourteen seasons for the Yomiuri Giants and was over .500 each season. He won 11 pennants and won the Japan Series every time. Nine of those pennants were consecutive, the fabled "V-9" Giant club.

                  Shigeru Mizuhara Manager's Success Points: 62
                  He won eight pennants in nine years from 1951 to 1959 for the Yomiuri Giants. He also won four Japan Series in the period 1951 to 1955 and won a pennant for the Flyers.
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                  Major League managers
                  The major league managers I think I'd put in, together with their Manager's success points (as calculated by Bill James this time) and any comments I have:

                  Billy Martin 29 points .His behavior was poor, and he wore out his welcome quickly no matter where he went. But if you wanted to win right now, there was nobody better while he was around managing.


                  James has written it usually takes 30 success points to get a manager in. However, there are two who are close and also are in the HOF as players. I don't endorse them as players, but I think the combination of playing career and managerial success makes them deserving.

                  Hughie Jennings 24 points. An excellent shortstop, albeit in a short career. I can't go for him just as a player, but when you combine the roles, I can.
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                  Major League executive

                  Kennesaw Mountain Landis He certainly could have done better in terms of dealing with the color line. But he did work hard to repair the damage to baseball's credibility from the Black Sox scandal, and he was undeniably successful there.

                  Walter O'Malley The man who took the majors to the West Coast, hired Walter Alston, and a few other things.

                  Jim Albright
                  Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                  Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                  A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                  Comment

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