Robby Alomar - HOFer?

[hudsonharden]

Since Roberto Alomar is arguably the best second baseman in the American League (with the possible exception of Bret Boone), is he already a proven HOFer?

[Captain Cold Nose]

Supporters of Alomar need to follow what happens with Ryne Sandberg in the voting. Sandberg got about 50% of the vote in his first year on the ballot this year. While many here believe Sandberg should have gotten in on the first ballot, he did score a solid amount for his first year, and should get in within a couple seasons, certainly before the Ripken/Gwynn/McGwire super ticket of 2007.

As Sandberg's voting goes, so will go Alomar's. If, that is, he were to retire this year. 3000 hits will get him in on the first ballot.

[TrueDodgerFan]

Re: Robby Alomar - HOFer?

Originally posted by hudsonharden
Since Roberto Alomar is arguably the best second baseman in the American League (with the possible exception of Bret Boone), is he already a proven HOFer?

Not sure I'd agree with him being the best now... seems like there's a guy with the Yankees who's pretty good too. But, Alomar definitely was the dominant 2nd baseman in the 90's. I'd like to think he'd be a shoe in based on his past achievements.

[Baseball Guru]

IMO he is but as CCN points out, not a first ballot HOF if he were to end his career this season....

His #'s are comparable to Sandberg...

That said, he isnt gong to retire this season and if he averaged 150 hits the next 2 seasons after this one is finished he will get to 3000 hits so he will be a 1st ballot with 3000+ hits....

Ok, actually after reading my post and CCN's, I guess it would have been easier to just say: "What he said"

Ok, I agree with CCN's post

[J W]

In my book he's in without hesitation, but, as noted second baseman have been having trouble on the ballot lately. I expect him to get 3000 hits, and I think he's got an outside shot at 3500 depending on how long he wants to play the game.

I'm interested in finding out how he ranked year-by-year as a second baseman. Right now I don't expect him to be that high, but I'd bet at least seven years he was the best second baseman in his league.

[hudsonharden]

Re: Re: Robby Alomar - HOFer?

Originally posted by TrueDodgerFan
Not sure I'd agree with him being the best now... seems like there's a guy with the Yankees who's pretty good too. But, Alomar definitely was the dominant 2nd baseman in the 90's. I'd like to think he'd be a shoe in based on his past achievements.

Soriano hasn't played long enough to establish himself as the best at his position.

[tearforamariner]

Re: Re: Re: Robby Alomar - HOFer?

Originally posted by hudsonharden
Soriano hasn't played long enough to establish himself as the best at his position.

His stats don't stand up as it is. He might be the second best in the game today, after Boone.

[Zito75]

I've always looked at Alomar as great player, not an oustanding player. I'll always remember him spitting on Hirshbeck. I don't think he lead the league in enough offensice categories to get in. I don't see any MVPs or rings. Then again, Ozzie Smith is in the HOF because of his defense. I say no to Alomar. That's my 2 cents.

[Chadwick]

Originally posted by Zito75
I don't see any....rings.

Are you kidding?

Roberto Alomar has, not just one, but two World Championship rings from the 1992-93 Blue Jays teams he led to the Series. Not only did he bat .347 in those two series, but he also won the MVP Award for his performance in the '92 ALCS. He was, unquestionably, the best player on those teams.

[Eddie Collins]

he should definitely make it

[Cougar]

He will be in. Maybe first ballot, maybe 2nd or 3rd, but no longer.

[The Commissioner]

If he retired today, he has already proven that he is a Hall of Famer. His fielding prowess combined with a career .300 BA pretty much guarantees him a spot. Add his base stealing totals, his 1000+ BB, and his 1100 +RBI to that the fact that he is on the verge of having 1500 runs scored, 4000 total bases, and could potentially collect 3000 hits and I can't see how he can not be enshrined.

[tonypug]

Roberto Alomar

Four years ago it appeared Roberto Alomar was headed for The Hall Of Fame. What are his chances now that his play has deteriated so fast. Will the voters be able to focus on the number of good years he had or will his recent play over shadow that.Also does he have to reach 3,000 hits to get in?

[julusnc]

Roberto Alomar is in the decline phase of his career and will probably never have another all-star calibur year.

Alomar will be remembered as a premier second baseman of his generation.A switch hitter, great baserunner, a .300 hitter with little power, and a player that spit in the face of a umpire.

Alomar is a Hall of Fame second baseman but his fast decline phase and spitting incident has driven his stock down and it will take about 3-5 years after being eligible.

[DoubleX]

Alomar will get in. He was such a good all-around secondbasemen for so long that I think it would be hard to pass on him. However, I remember people feeling the same way about Ryne Sandberg in his prime, but when the time came for election he was so far removed from his best years (due to the comeback) that it hindered his election for a few years. I think Alomar's well-publicized decline could hamper his candidacy for the first few years. But he'll get in, the bigger question will be what hat he'll be wearing, given that he's never spent more than 5 seasons anywhere. The Blue Jays seem like the best choice, but who knows.