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  • If Pedro retired today

    166-67

    .712 Winning %- 3rd all time

    3 Cy Young Awards

    2nd in Cy Young voting 2 other times

    AL Triple Crown in 1999

    ML-AS MVP

    6 All Star Games

    2.58 ERA(1st among active pitchers)

    2426 SO in 13 Seasons

    In 2000 his Era was 3.23 runs lower than the league average!

    His career era is 1.92 runs less than the league average during that time!!!

    6 ERA Titles

    Led League in Wins, Shutouts, and Complete Games once each.

    Led League in SO 3 times, came in second 3 more times

    Has the 3rd best (BB + H)/9IP ratio of all time.

    Second to only Randy Johnson in Strikeouts/9IP all time.

    Has the best Adjusted ERA of any player ever.

    Led the league in WP% 3 times.



    Wow, typing all this up, I just realized he may be the most effective picther of his generation. A generation that includes Maddux, Johnson, Clemens, and Glavine.
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  • #2
    He'd definetly be a first ballot HOFer if he retired today. He is the best pitcher of this generation.

    1. Pedro
    2. Maddux
    3. Rogah

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    • #3
      Dizzy Dean and Sandy Koufax are the standards for short-career pitchers. Pedro ranks above Dean because of a longer tenure of success. Without starting a Pedro vs. Koufax argument, Martinez has done enough.
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      • #4
        Yes, he's been crazy good. He merits 1st ballot induction.

        Some of his petulant behavior could hurt him with some voters, but I think he'd overcome that.

        He's already a HOF caliber pitcher; the rest of his career will just determine how far inside the inner circle he'll go.

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        • #5
          Well Capt., I nearly encited a riot when I compared Pedro to Sandy ... but I stand by it when I say they merit comparison, even though I conclude that Martinez falls short (because of too many 5-6 inning games, and lack of championship success).

          He gets my first ballot vote.
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          • #6
            One of the greatest "peak" performance pitchers in history!

            The only thing going against him are a few games lost to injuries during his best seasons. No matter, though...Pedro has already done plenty to merit enshrinement.

            Anything from this point on is gravy.
            "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
            "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
            "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
            "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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            • #7
              i hope he can Get 200 wins and 3,000 K's, just so he isn't considered a "short career HOfer"
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              • #8

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                All-Time Winning Percentage (minimum 100 wins)


                     
                Player        Years     PCT.  W/L
                 
                1. Spud Chandler  1937
                -47  .717  109-43 

                2. Pedro Martinez  1992
                -?  .712  166-67 
                 
                3. Whitey Ford     1950
                -67  .690  236-106 

                4. Dave Fultz      1884
                -94  .690  149-67 

                5. Don Gullett     1970
                -78  .686  109-50 


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                • #9
                  Black Ink: Pitching - 55 (22) (Average HOFer ~ 40)
                  Gray Ink: Pitching - 215 (30) (Average HOFer ~ 185)
                  HOF Standards: Pitching - 60.0 (16) (Average HOFer ~ 50)
                  HOF Monitor: Pitching - 189.5 (24) (Likely HOFer > 100)
                  Overall Rank in parentheses.

                  Now that he's won 200, this should cinch his first ballot selection if he blows out his arm tomorrow.

                  Pedro is the one pitcher who has a chance to be considered the greatest pitcher of all time, although he'd have to show more durability to do so.
                  "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

                  NL President Ford Frick, 1947

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                  • #10
                    If he retired today he would be a first ballot hall of famer. He has a wicked low era in a time of offense and when pitchers usaully get the short end of the stick. Pedro also has a very high winning percentage with 3 Cy Youngs. He probably has some more years left he is only 34. So he probably will get 3000 K's and rack up some more of his career totals. So he is deffiantly a first ballot HOFer.
                    go sox.

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                    • #11
                      Yep...Pedro is a 1st ballot slap-in-the-face obvious HOF inductee right here and right now.

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                      • #12
                        if Clemens retired today, would he be a first-ballot HOFer?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blackout805
                          if Clemens retired today, would he be a first-ballot HOFer?

                          I think everyone knows Clemens needs a few more years to solidify his position. That is why he is coming back this year. I mean he only has 7 Cy Young awards. That is close but not quite enough to get him in on the first ballot. He does have 20 winning seasons but also 2 years he had a losing record. Six 20 win years is alot but Spahn had 13. He only has 7 ERA titles. He doesn't even have 5000 strikeouts.

                          Really Roger needs a couple of more years to get in first ballot. If he retired today he might get into the Hall though.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cup2006sensrule
                            I think everyone knows Clemens needs a few more years to solidify his position. That is why he is coming back this year. I mean he only has 7 Cy Young awards. That is close but not quite enough to get him in on the first ballot. He does have 20 winning seasons but also 2 years he had a losing record. Six 20 win years is alot but Spahn had 13. He only has 7 ERA titles. He doesn't even have 5000 strikeouts.

                            Really Roger needs a couple of more years to get in first ballot. If he retired today he might get into the Hall though.
                            You're joking, right?
                            "I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right to play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."

                            NL President Ford Frick, 1947

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
                              Black Ink: Pitching - 55 (22) (Average HOFer ~ 40)
                              Gray Ink: Pitching - 215 (30) (Average HOFer ~ 185)
                              HOF Standards: Pitching - 60.0 (16) (Average HOFer ~ 50)
                              HOF Monitor: Pitching - 189.5 (24) (Likely HOFer > 100)
                              Overall Rank in parentheses.

                              Now that he's won 200, this should cinch his first ballot selection if he blows out his arm tomorrow.

                              Pedro is the one pitcher who has a chance to be considered the greatest pitcher of all time, although he'd have to show more durability to do so.
                              Not to mention that he won a championship in 2004, which is a bonus at worst and matters a great deal to some voters.

                              As someone else pointed out, he'll almost certainly get 3000 K's too, this season or at worst next. Just gravy at this point.

                              Originally posted by Fuzzy Bear
                              You're joking, right?
                              I think it's safe to say he was.

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