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  • Yes/ No/ Maybe Hall of Fame, 2015 election

    Welcome to the Yes/No/Maybe Ballot Hall of Fame! In this project, candidates are listed and you can vote for them for this Hall (yes), against allowing them in this Hall (no) or that maybe they belong and maybe they don't (maybe). For Japanese players and Negro Leaguers, you may also use maybe votes as a means of abstaining.


    The rules are as follows:

    1) Player eligibility is the earliest of three years:
    a) Last year played plus five;
    b) Year of death plus two; or
    c) First full season of age 40 or later in which he did not play.

    2) Contributor eligibility is the earliest of two years:
    a) Age 65 year; or
    b) Year of death plus two.

    3) Any year in which there is no new eligible contributor will have no contributor election.

    4) Any year without any new eligible contributors or players will be skipped. If there is a new contributor but no new players, both elections will be held.


    5) Write in votes are not allowed. If there is someone you wish to vote for who is not listed, you may inquire when he becomes eligible and/or nominate him for consideration.

    6) If there is a candidate you would vote to include in the Hall who is not on the list, you are free to nominate him. If I agree he should be added, he will be. If I do not, and at least one other voter is willing to vote for your nominee, he will be added. If not, he will not.

    7) For Negro League and Japanese players, if you wish to abstain, vote maybe. If any player is eliminated by virtue of a voters refusal to do anything but vote no an all players from one or both of those groups, he will be reinstated if the voter’s vote had been maybe instead. Any voter determined to have voted in that fashion will only have the maybe or yes options for candidates from that group. Abstentions will be treated as maybe votes.

    8) I will list the players by the year they first appeared on the ballot to assist cut and paste votes. I must request you follow that format in your vote to make my tabulation of the votes easier. There are four possible votes: Yes, which may be signified by the word or just Y in upper or lower case; No, which may also be signified by the word or just N in upper or lower case; Maybe, which may be signified by the word or MM in upper or lower case to distinguish it from No votes; and Abstain, which may be signified by the word or A in upper or lower case.


    9) Candidates will be inducted with the greater of six votes or at least 75% of the vote. The number of votes is determined by the number of yes votes plus one half the maybe votes for any candidate who has already been on at least two ballots. Candidates who receive at least 50% no votes will be removed from the ballot. The number of no votes is determined by the number of no votes plus one half the maybe votes for any candidate who has already been on at least two ballots. After the fifth year on the ballot, the percentage of yes votes needed to stay on the ballot will rise by 3% each election until the 13th year, on the ballot, when the required percentage of yes votes will be 74%. If a player continually remains between 74 and 75% yes votes, he will remain on the ballot.

    10) When voting for a player, we're only considering his playing career. As with the Hall, voters may consider the character issue. If he's a pioneer, he'll appear at age 65 or year of death +2 on the contributor list.

    11) If a player is listed on both ballots, you may vote for him in one, both or neither. If a candidate is elected on both ballots, he will be listed as a player. Once a player is elected, he will no longer appear on any ballots.

    12) One other thing to keep in mind: sometimes, contributors had major accomplishments after age 65. Please only credit such candidates with accomplishments as of the year you’re voting in. In 1945, for example, you should not credit Branch Rickey with his move to integrate the game when he hadn’t even signed Jackie Robinson yet.

    13) Votes may be changed up until the voting is closed. I do request that you PM me telling me about the change or make a new post in the thread to make sure I do not miss it. If this is not followed, I will attempt to take remedial action, but I will not revoke a declaration someone is elected because someone changed their vote to a less favorable position on a candidate without following this rule.

    14) If a candidate is voted out, there will be a mechanism to renew his eligibility. The candidate needs to wait at least five elections before being reinstated the first time, ten the second, fifteen the third and so forth (the greater of how many years he was credited with being on the ballot the last time or five years plus five years per each previous reinstatements). When the waiting period is over, the greater of three voters in the previous election or one-third the voters in the previous election must indicate they are all willing to a) vote for him in the next election, and b) subject him to the risk of a longer mandatory wait if he gets eliminated from the ballot again. Any reinstated candidate will be treated as in his third year on the ballot since he's already had the opportunity to have his case discussed and considered by the voters.

    15) Elections will typically remain open for a week, though I may extend that period at my discretion. I am inclined to extend the period to try and get a minimum of eight votes, so long as the missing vote(s) could alter a candidate's status (inducted, stays on ballot, dropped from ballot). This particular election will be open until five minutes before the posting of the official results after 7 am ET Saturday, August 18, 2018
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    Alphabetical List of inducted players

    Code:
    Hank Aaron
    Pete Alexander
    Dick Allen
    Roberto Alomar
    Cap Anson
    Luke Appling
    Richie Ashburn
    Earl Averill
    Jeff Bagwell
    Frank (Home Run) Baker
    Dave Bancroft
    Ernie Banks
    Ross Barnes
    Jake Beckley
    John Beckwith
    Cool Papa Bell
    Johnny Bench
    Charlie Bennett
    Yogi Berra
    Akira Bessho
    Craig Biggio
    Bert Blyleven
    Wade Boggs
    Barry Bonds
    Lou Boudreau
    Ken Boyer
    Roger Bresnahan
    George Brett
    Lou Brock
    Dan Brouthers
    Mordecai Brown
    Ray Brown
    Willard Brown
    Jim Bunning
    Jesse Burkett
    Roy Campanella
    Rod Carew
    Max Carey
    Steve Carlton
    Gary Carter
    Bob Caruthers
    Perucho Cepeda
    Frank Chance
    Oscar Charleston
    Fred Clarke
    John Clarkson
    1roger Clemens
    Roberto Clemente
    Ty Cobb
    Mickey Cochrane
    Eddie Collins
    Jimmy Collins
    Roger Connor
    Stan Coveleski
    Sam Crawford
    Joe Cronin
    Bill Dahlen
    George Davis
    Andre Dawson
    Leon Day
    Dizzy Dean
    Ed Delahanty
    Bill Dickey
    Martin Dihigo
    Joe DiMaggio
    Larry Doby
    Bobby Doerr
    Don Drysdale
    Dennis Eckersley
    Jim Edmonds
    Yutaka Enatsu
    Dwight Evans
    Buck Ewing
    Red Faber
    Bob Feller
    Wes Ferrell
    Carlton Fisk
    Elmer Flick
    Whitey Ford
    Rube Foster
    Willie Foster
    Nellie Fox
    Jimmie Foxx
    Bill Freehan
    Frankie Frisch
    Pud Galvin
    Lou Gehrig
    Charlie Gehringer
    Bob Gibson
    Josh Gibson
    Jack Glasscock
    Tom Glavine
    Joe Gordon
    Goose Goslin
    Goose 1gossage
    Frank Grant
    Hank Greenberg
    Bobby Grich
    Ken Griffey, Jr.
    Heinie Groh
    Lefty Grove
    Tony Gwynn
    Billy Hamilton
    Isao Harimoto
    Gabby Hartnett
    Harry Heilmann
    Todd Helton
    Rickey Henderson
    Billy Herman
    Keith Hernandez
    Pete Hill
    Paul Hines
    Rogers Hornsby
    Carl Hubbell
    Kazuhisa Inao
    Monte Irvin
    Reggie Jackson
    Hughie Jennings
    Ferguson Jenkins
    Tommy John
    Bob Johnson
    Home Run Johnson
    Randy Johnson
    Walter Johnson
    Al Kaline
    Masaichi Kaneda
    Tim Keefe
    Willie Keeler
    Joe Kelley
    King Kelly
    Jeff Kent
    Harmon Killebrew
    Ralph Kiner
    Sandy Koufax
    Masaaki Koyama
    Nap LaJoie
    Barry Larkin
    Bob Lemon
    Buck Leonard
    Pop Lloyd
    Dick Lundy
    Ted Lyons
    Biz Mackey
    Greg Maddux
    Sherry Magee
    Mickey Mantle
    Juan Marichal
    Edgar Martinez
    Pedro Martinez
    Eddie Mathews
    Christy Mathewson
    Willie Mays
    Willie McCovey
    Joe McGinnity
    John McGraw
    Fred McGriff
    Bid McPhee
    Cal McVey
    Joe Medwick
    Jose Mendez
    Minnie Minoso
    Johnny Mize
    Paul Molitor
    Joe Morgan
    Thurman Munson
    Eddie Murray
    Stan Musial
    Mike Mussina
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Graig Nettles
    Hal Newhouser
    Kid Nichols
    Phil Niekro
    Katsuya Nomura
    Hiromichi Ochiai
    Sadaharu Oh
    Alejandro Oms
    Jim O'Rourke
    Mel Ott
    Satchel Paige
    Jim Palmer
    Tont Perez
    Gaylord Perry
    Mike Piazza
    Billy Pierce
    Lip Pike
    Eddie Plank
    Kirby Puckett
    Old Hoss Radbourn
    Tim Raines
    Dick Redding
    Pee Wee Reese
    Sam Rice
    Cal Ripken, Jr.
    Mariano Rivera
    Robin Roberts
    Brooks Robinson
    Frank Robinson
    Jackie Robinson
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Bullet Joe Rogan
    Red Ruffing
    Amos Rusie
    Babe Ruth
    Noan Ryan
    Ryne Sandberg
    Ron Santo
    Louis Santop
    Mike Schmidt
    Tom Seaver
    Joe Sewell
    Urban Shocker
    Al Simmons
    Ted Simmons
    George Sisler
    Enos Slaughter
    Hilton Smith
    Ozzie Smith
    Reggie Smith
    Duke Snider
    Warren Spahn
    Al Spalding
    Tris Speaker
    Victor Starffin
    Willie Stargell
    Joe Start
    Turkey Stearnes
    Dave Steib
    Mule Suttles
    Don Sutton
    Bill Terry
    Frank Thomas
    Jim Thome
    Sam Thompson
    Luis Tiant Jr
    Joe Tinker
    Joe Torre
    Cristobal Torriente
    Alan Trammell
    Quincy Trouppe
    Dazzy Vance
    Arky Vaughan
    Rube Waddell
    Honus Wagner
    Larry Walker
    Bobby Wallace
    Ed Walsh
    Paul Waner
    John Montgomery Ward
    Willie Wells
    Zack Wheat
    Lou Whitaker
    Deacon White
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Billy Williams
    Smoky Joe Williams
    Ted Williams
    Vic Willis
    Jud Wilson
    Dave Winfield
    George Wright
    Early Wynn
    Carl Yastrzemski
    Tetsuya Yoneda
    Cy Young
    Robin Yount
    Alphabetical list of inducted contributors

    Code:
    Iso Abe
    Doc Adams
    Doug Allison
    Walter Alston
    Sparky Anderson
    Ed Barrow
    Ed Bolden
    Henry Chadwick
    Charlie Comiskey
    Bobby Cox
    Jim Creighton
    Tom Connolly
    Harry Dalton
    Jack Dunn
    Leo Durcher
    Al Munro Elias
    Billy Evans
    Pat Gillick
    Clark Griffith
    Ned Hanlon
    Bucky Harris
    Vic Harris
    Whitey Herzog
    John Heydler
    Bob Howsam
    Miller Huggins
    William Hulbert
    Bill James
    Ban Johnson
    Tetsuharu Kawakami
    Bill Klem
    Kenesaw Landis
    Tony LaRussa
    Tommy Lasords
    Joe Leggett
    Jim Leyland
    Al Lopez
    Connie Mack
    Larry MacPhail
    Joe McCarthy
    Bill McKechnie
    Osamu MIhara
    Marvin Miller
    Shigeru Mizuhara
    Tim Murnane
    Yuki Nishimoto
    Hank O'Day
    Lefty O'Doul
    Walter O'Malley
    Buck O'Neil
    Pete Palmer
    Dickey Pearce
    Alex Pompez
    Cum Posey
    Al Reach
    Francis Richter
    Branch Rickey
    Phil Rizzuto
    Tubby Scales
    John Scheurholz
    Vin Scully
    Frank Selee
    Ben Shibe
    Matsutaro Shoriki
    Billy Southworth
    Al Spalding
    J. G. Taylor Spink
    Casey Stengel
    C. I. Taylor
    Kazuto Tsuruoka
    Bill Veeck
    Louis Wadsworth
    Earl Wever
    George Weiss
    William Wheaton
    Sol White
    J L Wilkinson
    Dick Williams
    Harry Wright
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    • #3
      Inducted players by year inducted

      Code:
      1894--Ross Barnes, Al Spalding, Joe Start, Deacon White, George Wright
      1895--Charlie Bennett, Old Hoss Radbourn
      1896--Paul Hines
      1897--Pud Galvin
      1898--Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Jack Glasscock, Tim Keefe, King Kelly
      1899--Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, John Montgomery Ward
      1900--Buck Ewing, Bid McPhee
      1903--Cal McVey
      1905--Dan Brouthers, Jim O'Rourke
      1906--Billy Hamilton, Amos Rusie
      1907--Lip Pike
      1908--Ed Delahanty, Frank Grant, Sam Thompson
      1909--Jesse Burkett
      1910--Jake Beckley, Kid Nichols
      1911--Jimmy Collins, George Davis, John McGraw
      1912--Bill Dahlen, Joe Kelley, Joe McGinnity, Cy Young
      1913--Willie Keeler
      1915--Elmer Flick, Rube Waddell, Vic Willis
      1916--Fred Clarke
      1917--Mordecai Brown, Home Run Johnson, Nap LaJoie
      1918--Eddie Plank, Honus Wagner
      1919--Frank Chance, Bobby Wallace
      1920--Roger Bresnahan
      1921--Sam Crawford, Christy Mathewson, Joe Tinker
      1922--Hughie Jennings, Ed Walsh
      1924--Sherry Magee
      1927--Frank (Home Run) Baker
      1928--Walter Johnson
      1929--Ty Cobb, Rube Foster, Tris Speaker, Zack Wheat
      1930--Stan Coveleski, Heinie Groh
      1931--Pete Alexander, Max Carey, Eddie Collins, Louis Santop
      1933--Dave Bancroft, Pop Lloyd, Urban Shocker, Cristobal torriente, Smoky Joe Williams
      1934--Red Faber. Jose Mendez, George Sisler
      1935--Harry Heilmann
      1936--Babe Ruth, Dazzy Vance
      1938--Rogers Hornsby, Alejandro Oms, Joe Sewell
      1939--Frankie Frisch, Bullet Joe Rogan, Bill Terry
      1941--Goose Goslin
      1942--Oscar Charleston, Mickey Cochrane, Lefty Grove, Gabby Hartnett
      1943--Earl Averill, John Beckwith, Willie Foster, Dick Redding, Turkey Stearnes
      1944--Lou Gehrig, Charlie Gehringer, Carl Hubbell
      1945--Al Simmons, Mule Suttles
      1946--Martin Dihigo, Wes Ferrell, Bob Johnson, Paul Waner
      1947--Joe Cronin, Ted Lyons, Jud Wilson
      1948--Cool Papa Bell, Bill Dickey, Jimmie Foxx, Biz Mackey, Red Ruffing
      1949--Ray Brown
      1950--Billy Herman, Mel Ott, Willie Wells
      1951--Luke Appling, Josh Gibson, Buck Leonard, Hilton Smith
      1952--Dizzy Dean, Hank Greenberg, Joe Medwick
      1953--Arky Vaughan
      1954--Pete Hill, Johnny Mize
      1955--Leon Day, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Gordon, Dick Lundy, Quincy Trouppe
      1956--Bobby Doerr
      1957--Lou Boudreau
      1958--Willard Brown, Perucho Cepeda, Victor Starffin
      1959--Bob Feller, Pee Wee Reese
      1960--Monte Irvin, Ralph Kiner, Hal Newhouser, Jackie Robinson, Enos Slaughter
      1961--Bob Lemon, Ted Williams
      1962--Roy Campanella
      1964--Larry Doby, Stan Musial, Early Wynn
      1966--Yogi Berra, Satchel Paige, Warren Spahn
      1967--Richie Ashburn, Robin Roberts, Duke Snider
      1968--Nellie Fox. Billy Pierce
      1969--Whitey Ford
      1970--Akira Bessho
      1971--Sandy Koufax
      1972--Ernie Banks, Jim Bunning, Mickey Mantle, Eddie Mathews
      1973--Ken Boyer, Hoyt Wilhelm
      1974--Don Drysdale, Willie Mays
      1975--Roberto Clemente, Al Kaline
      1976--Bob Gibson, Kazuhisa Inao, Masaichi Kaneda
      1977--Hank Aaron, Harmon Killebrew, Masaaki Koyama, Frank Robinson
      1978--Juan Marichal, Brooks Robinson
      1979--Ron Santo, Billy Williams
      1980--Lou Brock
      1981--Willie McCovey, Minnie Minoso, Shigeo Nagashima, Katsuya Nomura, Sadaharu Oh, Tetsuya Yoneda
      1982--Dick Allen, Bill Freehan, Joe Torre
      1983--Willie Stargell, Luis Tiant Jr.
      1984--Isao Harimoto, Ferguson Jenkins, Thurman Munson, Gaylord Perry, Carl Yastrzemski
      1985--Joe Morgan
      1986--Rod Carew, Jim Palmer
      1987--Tom Seaver
      1988--Johnny Bench, Reggie Jackson, Phil Niekro
      1989--Steve Carlton, Tony Perez, Reggie Smith, Don Sutton
      1990--Mike Schmidt, Ted Simmons
      1991--Yutaka Enatsu, Bobby Grich, Graig Nettes
      1993--Bert Blyleven, Dwight Evans
      1994--George Brett, Carlton Fisk, Tommy John, Nolan Ryan
      1995--Gary Carter, Goose Gossage, Sam Rice
      1996--Keith Hernandez, Dave Winfield, Robin Yount
      1997--Andre Dawson, Ozzie Smith
      1998--Eddie Murray, Lou Whitaker
      1999--Dennis Eckersley, Paul Molitor, Alan Trammell
      2000--Wade Boggs, Kirby Puckett, Ryne Sandberg
      2002--Tony Gwynn, Hiromitsu Ochiai, Cal Ripken, Jr.
      2003--Tim Raines
      2004--Rickey Henderson
      2005--Barry Larkin, Edgar Martinez
      2007--Larry Walker
      2008--Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Fred McGriff
      2009--Roberto Alomar, Jeff Bagwell, Jeff Kent, Greg Maddux, Mike Mussina, Mike Piazza, Dave Steib
      2010--Randy Johnson
      2011--Jim Edmonds, Tom Glavine, Ken Griffey Jr, Frank Thomas
      2012--Pedro Martinez, Ivan Rodriguez
      2013--Jim Thome
      2014--Todd Helton, Mariano Rivera
      Inducted contributors by year inducted

      Code:
      1894--Doc Adams, Henry Chadwick, William Hulbert
      1896--Jim Creighton, William Wheaton
      1897--Harry Wright
      1903--Dickey Pearce, Ben Shibe
      1905--Al Reach
      1908--Joe Leggett, Louis Wadsworth
      1911--Frank Selee
      1915--Al Spalding
      1919--Doug Allison
      1920--Tim Murnane, Francis Richter
      1922--Ned Hanlon
      1924--Charlie Comiskey, C. I. Taylor
      1926--Hank O'Day
      1927--Connie Mack
      1929--John Heydler, Ban Johnson
      1931--Miller Huggins, Kenesaw Landis
      1932--Iso Abe, Ed Barrow, Jack Dunn
      1933--Clark Griffith, Sol White
      1937--Tom Connolly, Al Munro Elias
      1941--Bill Klem-
      1943--J L Wilkinson
      1946--Branch Rickey
      1948--Ed Bolden, Cum Posey
      1950--Billy Evans, Matsutaro Shoriki
      1951--Bill McKechnie
      1952--Joe McCarthy
      1953--J. G. Taylor Spink
      1955--Larry MacPhail, Alex Pompez, Casey Stengel
      1958--Billy Southworth
      1959--George Weiss
      1961--Bucky Harris
      1962--Lefty O'Doul
      1970--Leo Durocher, Vic harris, Walter O'Malley
      1971--Tubby Scales
      1973--Al Lopez
      1976--Walter Alston, Buck O'Neil
      1978--Shigeru Mizuhara
      1979--Osamu Mihara
      1981--Phil Rizzuto, Kazuto Tsuruoka
      1982--Marvin Miller
      1983--Bob Howsam
      1986--Harry Dalton, Tetsuharu Kawakami
      1987--Yuki Nishimoto
      1988--Bill Veeck
      1992--Vin Scully
      1994--Tommy Lasorda, Dick Willisms
      1995--Earl Weaver
      1996--Whitey Herzog
      1999--Sparky Anderson
      2002--Pat Gillick
      2003--Pete Palmer
      2005--John Scheurholz
      2006--Bobby Cox
      2009--Tony LaRussa
      2011--Jim Leyland
      2014--Bill James
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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      • #4
        There are two new players to consider:
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        Giambi, Jason
        Jeter, Derek


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        There are no new contributors, and thus there are no contributors to vote upon.
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        ...
        The previous ballot is here: https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum/general-baseball/hall-of-fame-talk/3490327-yes-no-maybe-hall-of-fame-2014-election
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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        • #5
          The ballot, organized by first year on the ballot to help with cut and paste voting:
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          Players
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          Palmiero, Rafael
          Giambi, Jason
          Jeter, Derek
          Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
          Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
          A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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          • #6
            my ballot

            Players
            ....
            Palmiero, Rafael--no
            Giambi, Jason--no
            Jeter, Derek--yes
            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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            • #7
              Players
              Palmeiro, Rafael - No
              Giambi, Jason - No
              Jeter, Derek - Yes
              "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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              • #8
                Players
                Rafael Palmeiro - YES

                Jason Giambi - MAYBE
                Derek Jeter - YES
                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                • #9
                  Players
                  Rafael Palmeiro - YES

                  Jason Giambi - NO
                  Derek Jeter - YES
                  .


                  19th Century League Champion
                  1900s League Champion
                  1910s League Champion

                  1930s League Division Winner
                  1950s League Champion
                  1960 Strat-O-Matic League Regular Season Winner
                  1960s League Division Winner
                  1970s League Champion
                  1971 Strat-O-Matic League Runner Up
                  1980s League Champion
                  All Time Greats League Champion

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                  • #10
                    Players
                    Rafael Palmeiro - Yes
                    Jason Giambi - No
                    Derek Jeter - Yes

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Palmiero, Rafael - Yes

                      Giambi, Jason - No
                      Jeter, Derek - Yes

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Palmeiro, Rafael - YES

                        Giambi, Jason - NO
                        Jeter, Derek- YES
                        Nos Amours! ... 1969-2004

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                        • #13
                          Players

                          Rafael Palmeiro - Yes

                          Jason Giambi - No
                          Derek Jeter - Yes

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                          • #14
                            We have a quorum
                            Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                            Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                            A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                            • #15
                              Rafael Palmeiro - Yes

                              Jason Giambi - Yes
                              Derek Jeter - Yes

                              Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
                              http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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