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    SavoyBG--use this thread to comment/critique/suggest for JAlbright's musings thread.

    Lots of people use that thread for reference and do not want to see your one liners cluttering it up. For your more in depth player critiques, use the thread you set up.

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    Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
    Lots of people use that thread for reference and do not want to see your one liners cluttering it up.
    The part they use for reference is long before the most current posts. When you use it for reference you go to post # 2 on the first page and click on what you want to look at.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

      The part they use for reference is long before the most current posts. When you use it for reference you go to post # 2 on the first page and click on what you want to look at.
      I know how to navigate the thread. Stop posting in it! It is not yours! There is no reason for it. You now have a discussion thread.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post

        I know how to navigate the thread. Stop posting in it! It is not yours! There is no reason for it. You now have a discussion thread.
        You mean, we can only post in our own threads?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

          You mean, we can only post in our own threads?
          You really have absolutely zero respect for anyone. Unbelievable! You have ruined this site! Congratulations!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post

            You really have absolutely zero respect for anyone. Unbelievable! You have ruined this site! Congratulations!
            I asked him to analyze Mauer's case. That's "ruining" the site?

            If Jim didn't want anyone posting in that thread he would have closed it down and only open it when he wants to edit something.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

              I asked him to analyze Mauer's case. That's "ruining" the site?

              If Jim didn't want anyone posting in that thread he would have closed it down and only open it when he wants to edit something.
              That thread came from another thread and is 12 years of contributions. Everyone from this site except for you respects that and does not clutter it up with garbage. Get a clue and quit trying to ruin this site for everyone!

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              • #8
                I'd prefer that requests come to this thread or via PM. I'll get to Utley, Mauer and Ortiz eventually. If there are other suitable retirements, I'll tackle them as well I will note I don't put active players in the musings thread.
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                • #9
                  I posted the Utley and Mauer comments in the musings thread and also in threads discussing those two players.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jalbright View Post
                    I posted the Utley and Mauer comments in the musings thread and also in threads discussing those two players.
                    Thanks. Let's see if the writers agree with your takes. I suspect that Utley will struggle to get a lot of support from them. No MVP, no batting titles, no huge career totals, the things that those schmucks like to go by.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

                      Thanks. Let's see if the writers agree with your takes. I suspect that Utley will struggle to get a lot of support from them. No MVP, no batting titles, no huge career totals, the things that those schmucks like to go by.
                      If I had to predict, Mauer's a tough sell unless modern metrics are dominant by the time he is eligible, and even then it's a tough case. They'd have to buy in on the peak argument. Utley probably won't get in by the writers, but I was surprised how well he did even in counting stats against 2B, which makes his case an easier sell. I suspect not enough witll bite even with that, but it's an easier case to make.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jalbright View Post

                        If I had to predict, Mauer's a tough sell unless modern metrics are dominant by the time he is eligible, and even then it's a tough case. They'd have to buy in on the peak argument. Utley probably won't get in by the writers, but I was surprised how well he did even in counting stats against 2B, which makes his case an easier sell. I suspect not enough witll bite even with that, but it's an easier case to make.
                        I think the writers will jump on the 3 battles titles and an MVP for a catcher and put him in.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jalbright View Post

                          If I had to predict, Mauer's a tough sell unless modern metrics are dominant by the time he is eligible, and even then it's a tough case. They'd have to buy in on the peak argument. Utley probably won't get in by the writers, but I was surprised how well he did even in counting stats against 2B, which makes his case an easier sell. I suspect not enough witll bite even with that, but it's an easier case to make.
                          I think Mauer is going to sail in on the first ballot, with over 80% of the vote. I've heard a LOT of Joe Mauer, future HOFer talk, all this year and especially in the last 2-3 months in the media. I think Savoy is spot on with the three batting titles, the MVP and I'll add the 0.307 BA and the home town, one team star aspect.

                          Going back and forth between this thread and the Utley one, I think Mauer has the more likely case, both in what I think the media thinks, raw numbers, and sabermetrics (the truly big stat guys will look at some catching numbers outside WAR type values, even if he only caught for half a career).
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