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2019 BBWAA HOF Ballots: Best and Worst

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  • 2019 BBWAA HOF Ballots: Best and Worst

    2019 HOF Ballot Tracker

    As I did last year, I'll be scoring each known BBWAA HOF ballot by a simple rating system:
    • +1 point for each worthy player (IMO)
    • -1 point for each unworthy player (again IMO)
    • 0 points for each unacceptable blank spot on the ballot (i.e., one that could have gone to a worthy)
    • +1 point for each acceptable blank spot on the ballot (i.e., one that could not have gone to a worthy; voters lose one acceptable blank spot for each unworthy vote until no more remain; if there are more than 9 worthies, no blank spots are acceptable)
    The best and worst ballots by score will be listed here. I'll update this as more ballots come in. There are 18 worthies this year: Berkman, Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Helton, Jones, Kent, Martinez, Mussina, Oswalt, Pettitte, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Sheffield, Sosa, and Walker. So no acceptable blank spots!

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    Best ballots so far:

    10: Tim Booth (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Helton, Martinez, Mussina, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Pat Caputo (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Brian Costa (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Pettitte, Ramirez, Rivera, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Josh Dubow (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Patrick Graham (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Helton, Martinez, Mussina, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Steve Politi (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Pettitte, Ramirez, Rivera, Schilling, Walker)
    10: Luis Rangel (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Schilling, Sheffield, Sosa)

    Potential instances of wise tactical voting
    [none so far]

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    Worst ballots so far:

    4: Chris Assenheimer (Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Rivera, Schilling, Vizquel)
    4: Jay Dunn (Halladay, Martinez, McGriff, Mussina, Pettitte, Rivera, Schilling, Vizquel)
    4: Carter Gaddis (Halladay, Helton, Martinez, McGriff, Mussina, Rivera, Vizquel, Walker)
    4: Steve Simmons (Halladay, Martinez, McGriff, Mussina, Rivera, Schilling, Vizquel, Walker)

    3: David Lennon (Bonds, Clemens, Rivera)
    3: Juan Vene (Helton, McGriff, Mussina, Pettitte, Rivera)

    2: Steven Marcus (Martinez, Rivera)
    Last edited by Nerdlinger; Yesterday, 09:21 PM.
    *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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    I read at the Hall of Miller and Eric that Bill Madden dumped his annual colon cleansing on the Hall. Insufferable. They had a lot of fun with Jon Heyman's ballot, too.

    As far as your system goes, I don't quite understand your un/acceptable blank spot thing. With 18 worthies on this year's ballot, there's no such thing as an "acceptable" blank spot because a voter has 10 spots and 18 choices to fill them, right? So shouldn't a voter with any blank spots this year be docked for each? Am I missing something here?
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
      I read at the Hall of Miller and Eric that Bill Madden dumped his annual colon cleansing on the Hall. Insufferable. They had a lot of fun with Jon Heyman's ballot, too.

      As far as your system goes, I don't quite understand your un/acceptable blank spot thing. With 18 worthies on this year's ballot, there's no such thing as an "acceptable" blank spot because a voter has 10 spots and 18 choices to fill them, right? So shouldn't a voter with any blank spots this year be docked for each? Am I missing something here?
      Unacceptable blank spots are worth 0 points, so that's what everyone gets for each one. I figure omitting a worthy player is not as bad as including an unworthy player.
      *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nerdlinger View Post
        Unacceptable blank spots are worth 0 points, so that's what everyone gets for each one. I figure omitting a worthy player is not as bad as including an unworthy player.
        The inclusion of an unworthy player is de facto the omission of a worthy player. Not voting for a worthy player retards the ability of worthy players to be elected and is a net negative on the process.
        Better to make it -1 and -2 rather than 0 and -1. My two cents.
        "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
        "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
        "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
        "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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        • #5
          I totally approve of and agree with Josh Dubow's ballot: (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
            The inclusion of an unworthy player is de facto the omission of a worthy player. Not voting for a worthy player retards the ability of worthy players to be elected and is a net negative on the process.
            Better to make it -1 and -2 rather than 0 and -1. My two cents.
            I wanted the scale to run from 10 at the best to -10 at the worst. In any case, a 1/0/-1 system is the same as a 3/2/1 system, just as a 1/-1/-2 system is the same as a 4/2/1 system. Whether the actual score given is a negative number or not doesn't really matter.
            Last edited by Nerdlinger; 12-08-2018, 05:59 AM.
            *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post
              I totally approve of and agree with Josh Dubow's ballot: (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
              All of those are worthy candidates, but Manny isn't going to gain traction unless Bonds/Clemens are elected and Walker won't be elected by the BBWAA before his clock runs out. I'd replace them with Todd Helton and Andruw Jones who (a) need the votes more and (b) have a better chance at election by the BBWAA going forward. But Dubow's ballot is how I see the 10 most deserving candidates in 2019.
              "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
              "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
              "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
              "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post
                I totally approve of and agree with Josh Dubow's ballot: (Bonds, Clemens, Halladay, Martinez, Mussina, Ramirez, Rivera, Rolen, Schilling, Walker)
                Swap Rivera for A-Jones and that's my ballot as well.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pedrosrotatorcuff View Post

                  Swap Rivera for A-Jones and that's my ballot as well.
                  May I assume that you are taking out Rivera because you know he's getting elected anyway?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dwj21792 View Post

                    May I assume that you are taking out Rivera because you know he's getting elected anyway?
                    Of course. It's just a formality at this point; someone has to stick up for the "little guy" while the mainstreamers usher in the slam-dunks.

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                    • #11
                      I find this whole exercise a bit presumptuous. There are players about whom there is wide agreement but listing deeply controversial candidates as obviously "worthy" (as if there is no question about them or their role in the process) makes this something more akin to people just listing their personal preferences, something which we already have multiple threads devoted to.

                      The only ballots that deserve real condemnation are any that list fewer than 7-8 names.
                      "Every HoF vote for a PED user is a clear message from those voters to Fred McGriff: 'You should have taken steroids.' Brutal." C.J. Nitkowski

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Los Bravos View Post
                        I find this whole exercise a bit presumptuous. There are players about whom there is wide agreement but listing deeply controversial candidates as obviously "worthy" (as if there is no question about them or their role in the process) makes this something more akin to people just listing their personal preferences, something which we already have multiple threads devoted to.

                        The only ballots that deserve real condemnation are any that list fewer than 7-8 names.
                        Any such judgment of best and worst or worthy and unworthy is inherently subjective. That's why I wrote "IMO". ;-)
                        *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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                        • #13
                          Okay. As long as you know that, it's all pretty much cool. I just wanted to get on the record about it.
                          "Every HoF vote for a PED user is a clear message from those voters to Fred McGriff: 'You should have taken steroids.' Brutal." C.J. Nitkowski

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                          • #14
                            Happy to see Bill Livingston has voluntarily removed himself from the election process after the backlash he got last year. Livingston is the Cleveland-based reporter who voted only for Thome and Vizquel last year. I suppose it would have been even more difficult to justify a one-player ballot this year. Glad to see one voter doing the right thing.
                            "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                            "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                            "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                            "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
                              Happy to see Bill Livingston has voluntarily removed himself from the election process after the backlash he got last year. Livingston is the Cleveland-based reporter who voted only for Thome and Vizquel last year. I suppose it would have been even more difficult to justify a one-player ballot this year. Glad to see one voter doing the right thing.
                              The right thing would have been to vote responsibly rather than giving up his vote.
                              *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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