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    If you could pick 100 players for a mass induction no longer on the BBWAA Ballot, who would they be? Negro League and Japanese players are eligible for this post. Also players not yet eligible for Eras Ballots are eligible for this. So you can vote for Kenny Lofton, Jim Edmonds. etc.

  • #2
    Does it have to be 100?
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    • #3
      Let me preface my lists with the following opinions.

      1. It would be deeply unwise to add 100 players to Cooperstown at one time, even if expanding the number of players from 261 to 361 was, in fact, desirable.
      2. While I am for a bigger Hall of Fame in Cooperstown for the purposes of correcting mistakes of omission and of establishing a greater consistency at where the in/out line is drawn, I am not necessarily convinced that it would take 100 additional players to achieve that. It may take 50, it may take 150. I don't know.
      3. Given the instructions in the OP, I assumed that Pete Rose, Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte were ineligible for this exercise as they are (permanently) ineligible for Cooperstown. If that was an oversight in the OP and they are, in fact, eligible, then all three should be added to my Absolutes list (see below).
      4. Unlike banned players, however, I assume there is room to fudge on the eligibility of "pioneers" like Ross Barnes, where the exclusion is the number of seasons and that can be (a) reasonably debated and (b) waived, as it was for Addie Joss.

      Finally, I broke my names into two lists. The first is what I'm calling my Absolutes because these are the players I am rock-solid on who belong in Cooperstown, no question in my mind. The second list are my Probables, who are the other guys that I'm willing (on most days) to make a case for, but who, for whatever reason, don't quite merit the conviction I have for the first group.

      The total is just over 100 names, but that's because I was primarily concerned with the first group. If the latter group must be trimmed, I could just as easily decide the final X names by flipping a coin, so close are many of them.


      ABSOLUTES
      P – Kevin Brown, David Cone, Wes Ferrell, Billy Pierce, Rick Reuschel, Bret Saberhagen, Johan Santana, Urban Shocker, Dave Stieb, Luis Tiant, Billy Wagner
      C – Charlie Bennett, Thurman Munson, Wally Schang, Ted Simmons
      1B – Dick Allen, Keith Hernandez, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Joe Start
      2B – Ross Barnes, Bobby Grich, Willie Randolph, Lou Whitaker
      3B – Sal Bando, Buddy Bell, Ken Boyer, Darrell Evans, Graig Nettles
      SS – Bill Dahlen, Jack Glasscock
      LF – Lance Berkman, Bob Johnson, Charlie Keller, Sherry Magee, Minnie Minoso
      CF – Jim Edmonds, George Gore, Paul Hines, Kenny Lofton, Jim Wynn
      RF – Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans, Reggie Smith
      Negro Leaguers – John Beckwith, Perucho Cepeda, Home Run Johnson, Dick Lundy, Dobie Moore, Dick Redding, Quincy Trouppe
      Japanese Leaguers – Isao Harimoto, Shigeo Nagashima, Katsuya Nomura, Hiromitsu Ochiai, Sadaharu Oh


      PROBABLES
      P – Babe Adams, Kevin Appier, Tommy Bond, Tommy Bridges, Mark Buehrle, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, Wilbur Cooper, Chuck Finley, Dwight Gooden, Orel Hershiser, John Hiller, Tim Hudson, Tommy John, Jim McCormick, Tony Mullane, Joe Nathan, Don Newcombe, Roy Oswalt, Dan Quisenberry
      C – Bill Freehan, Cal McVey, Lance Parrish, Darrell Porter, Jorge Posada, Jim Sundberg, Gene Tenace
      1B – Norm Cash, Will Clark, Carlos Delgado, Gil Hodges, Don Mattingly, John Olerud
      2B – Cupid Childs, Fred Dunlap, Hardy Richardson
      3B – Ron Cey, Bob Elliott, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Ezra Sutton, Robin Ventura
      SS – Bert Campaneris, Art Fletcher, Jim Fregosi, Nomar Garciaparra, Vern Stephens, Miguel Tejada
      LF – Albert Belle, Jose Cruz, Charley Jones, Jimmy Sheckard, Harry Stovey, Bobby Veach
      CF – Pete Browning, Willie Davis, Tommy Leach, Dale Murphy, Bernie Williams
      RF – Rocky Colavito, Tony Oliva, Dave Parker
      Negro Leaguers – Newt Allen, Hurley McNair, Alejandro Oms, Chino Smith, Wild Bill Wright
      Japanese Leaguers – Akira Bessho, Yutaka Enatsu, Yutaka Fukumoto, Kazuhisa Inao, Masaichi Kaneda, Hiromitsu Kadota, Victor Starffin, Koji Yamamoto, Kazuhiro Yamauchi


      Figured I'd start things out. Folks, if I can make these kinds of lists, anyone can. Looking forward to reading yours.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
        Let me preface my lists with the following opinions.

        1. It would be deeply unwise to add 100 players to Cooperstown at one time, even if expanding the number of players from 261 to 361 was, in fact, desirable.
        2. While I am for a bigger Hall of Fame in Cooperstown for the purposes of correcting mistakes of omission and of establishing a greater consistency at where the in/out line is drawn, I am not necessarily convinced that it would take 100 additional players to achieve that. It may take 50, it may take 150. I don't know.
        3. Given the instructions in the OP, I assumed that Pete Rose, Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte were ineligible for this exercise as they are (permanently) ineligible for Cooperstown. If that was an oversight in the OP and they are, in fact, eligible, then all three should be added to my Absolutes list (see below).
        4. Unlike banned players, however, I assume there is room to fudge on the eligibility of "pioneers" like Ross Barnes, where the exclusion is the number of seasons and that can be (a) reasonably debated and (b) waived, as it was for Addie Joss.

        Finally, I broke my names into two lists. The first is what I'm calling my Absolutes because these are the players I am rock-solid on who belong in Cooperstown, no question in my mind. The second list are my Probables, who are the other guys that I'm willing (on most days) to make a case for, but who, for whatever reason, don't quite merit the conviction I have for the first group.

        The total is just over 100 names, but that's because I was primarily concerned with the first group. If the latter group must be trimmed, I could just as easily decide the final X names by flipping a coin, so close are many of them.


        ABSOLUTES
        P – Kevin Brown, David Cone, Wes Ferrell, Billy Pierce, Rick Reuschel, Bret Saberhagen, Johan Santana, Urban Shocker, Dave Stieb, Luis Tiant, Billy Wagner
        C – Charlie Bennett, Thurman Munson, Wally Schang, Ted Simmons
        1B – Dick Allen, Keith Hernandez, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Joe Start
        2B – Ross Barnes, Bobby Grich, Willie Randolph, Lou Whitaker
        3B – Sal Bando, Buddy Bell, Ken Boyer, Darrell Evans, Graig Nettles
        SS – Bill Dahlen, Jack Glasscock
        LF – Lance Berkman, Bob Johnson, Charlie Keller, Sherry Magee, Minnie Minoso
        CF – Jim Edmonds, George Gore, Paul Hines, Kenny Lofton, Jim Wynn
        RF – Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans, Reggie Smith
        Negro Leaguers – John Beckwith, Perucho Cepeda, Home Run Johnson, Dick Lundy, Dobie Moore, Dick Redding, Quincy Trouppe
        Japanese Leaguers – Isao Harimoto, Shigeo Nagashima, Katsuya Nomura, Hiromitsu Ochiai, Sadaharu Oh


        PROBABLES
        P – Babe Adams, Kevin Appier, Tommy Bond, Tommy Bridges, Mark Buehrle, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, Wilbur Cooper, Chuck Finley, Dwight Gooden, Orel Hershiser, John Hiller, Tim Hudson, Tommy John, Jim McCormick, Tony Mullane, Joe Nathan, Don Newcombe, Roy Oswalt, Dan Quisenberry
        C – Bill Freehan, Cal McVey, Lance Parrish, Darrell Porter, Jorge Posada, Jim Sundberg, Gene Tenace
        1B – Norm Cash, Will Clark, Carlos Delgado, Gil Hodges, Don Mattingly, John Olerud
        2B – Cupid Childs, Fred Dunlap, Hardy Richardson
        3B – Ron Cey, Bob Elliott, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Ezra Sutton, Robin Ventura
        SS – Bert Campaneris, Art Fletcher, Jim Fregosi, Nomar Garciaparra, Vern Stephens, Miguel Tejada
        LF – Albert Belle, Jose Cruz, Charley Jones, Jimmy Sheckard, Harry Stovey, Bobby Veach
        CF – Pete Browning, Willie Davis, Tommy Leach, Dale Murphy, Bernie Williams
        RF – Rocky Colavito, Tony Oliva, Dave Parker
        Negro Leaguers – Newt Allen, Hurley McNair, Alejandro Oms, Chino Smith, Wild Bill Wright
        Japanese Leaguers – Akira Bessho, Yutaka Enatsu, Yutaka Fukumoto, Kazuhisa Inao, Masaichi Kaneda, Hiromitsu Kadota, Victor Starffin, Koji Yamamoto, Kazuhiro Yamauchi


        Figured I'd start things out. Folks, if I can make these kinds of lists, anyone can. Looking forward to reading yours.
        Darn, I just looked and maxing out everyone (Pete Rose, active guys, very low end probable, etc.) and I've only got 45-50! I'm not even close to 100, no matter how big I can see my HOF getting!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
          Does it have to be 100?
          No it doesn't and you can use anyone who is banned (Pete Rose) or doesn't meet the ten year mark (Ross Barnes).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stieb37 View Post
            If you could pick 100 players for a mass induction no longer on the BBWAA Ballot, who would they be? Negro League and Japanese players are eligible for this post. Also players not yet eligible for Eras Ballots are eligible for this. So you can vote for Kenny Lofton, Jim Edmonds. etc.
            I'll have to try and take a look soon if possible , but this is a HUGE number.
            If I can, I'll attempt to setup in a way similar to Chadwick, guys above the grey area and guys in the grey area that would constitute a BIG Hall of Fame, a project I believe Cowtipper ran a handful of years ago.
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            • #7
              Personally, I don't think the HOF should be expanded significantly, more than its typical rate. I also don't believe in kicking guys out- which clearly isn't going to happen. I'd probably come up with a list of 20 or so who I think are most deserving.

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              • #8
                C Posada, Howard, Simmons...Munson, Schang, L. Parrish, V. Martinez 3/7
                1B Rose, Palmeiro, Garvey, McGriff, Hodges, K. Hernandez...McGwire, Giambi, Galarraga, T. Martinez, Olerud, Berkman, Mattingly, Delgado, McInnis, Konerko, D. Allen, W. Clark 6/16
                2B none....Knoblauch, Jim Gilliam 0/2
                3B Nettles, Boyer K., M. Williams, Darrell Evans 4
                SS M. Wills, Campaneris, Dahlen, 3
                LF Foster, Carter, Sherry Magee, Harry Stovey...Luis Gonzalez, Jimmy Sheckard, Minnie Minoso, Boog Powell, Heinie Manush 3/8
                CF Bernie Williams, Johnny Damon, Dale Murphy (CF/RF), Kenny Lofton, Andruw Jones, Steve Finley, Vada Pinson, Willie Davis, Al Oliver, Jim Edmonds, Jimmy Ryan...Willie McGee, Marquis Grissom, Devon White 11/14
                RF Dave Parker, Dwight Evans....Jose Canseco, Paul O'Neill, Bobby Abreu, Bobby Bonds, Roger Maris, Reggie Smith, Hank Bauer 2/9
                DH Don Baylor, Chili Davis 2
                RP John Franco...Jeff Reardon, Randy Myers, Dan Quisenberry, 1/4
                SP Jim Kaat, Vida Blue, Tommy John, Mickey Lolich, Allie Reynolds, David Cone, Luis Tiant, Billy Pierce, Bob Welch, Paul Derringer, Jerry Koosman, Bucky Walters, Ron Guidry...Bullet Bush, Tommy Bridges, Dwight Gooden, Bobo Newsom, Jack Powell, Jerry Reuss, Mike Cueller, Jack Quinn, Orel Hershiser, Sad Jones, Jim McCormick*, Frank Tanana, Fernando Valenzuela, Bob Shawkey, Babe Adams, Ed Reulbach, Eddie Cicottte, Dave McNally, Carl Mays, Camilo Pascuel, Larry French, Dennis Martinez 14/35 13+McCormick

                That's 69-104-if it has to be 100 I'd cut D. martinez, L. French, Devon White, V. martinez

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
                  Let me preface my lists with the following opinions.

                  1. It would be deeply unwise to add 100 players to Cooperstown at one time, even if expanding the number of players from 261 to 361 was, in fact, desirable.
                  2. While I am for a bigger Hall of Fame in Cooperstown for the purposes of correcting mistakes of omission and of establishing a greater consistency at where the in/out line is drawn, I am not necessarily convinced that it would take 100 additional players to achieve that. It may take 50, it may take 150. I don't know.
                  3. Given the instructions in the OP, I assumed that Pete Rose, Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte were ineligible for this exercise as they are (permanently) ineligible for Cooperstown. If that was an oversight in the OP and they are, in fact, eligible, then all three should be added to my Absolutes list (see below).
                  4. Unlike banned players, however, I assume there is room to fudge on the eligibility of "pioneers" like Ross Barnes, where the exclusion is the number of seasons and that can be (a) reasonably debated and (b) waived, as it was for Addie Joss.

                  Finally, I broke my names into two lists. The first is what I'm calling my Absolutes because these are the players I am rock-solid on who belong in Cooperstown, no question in my mind. The second list are my Probables, who are the other guys that I'm willing (on most days) to make a case for, but who, for whatever reason, don't quite merit the conviction I have for the first group.

                  The total is just over 100 names, but that's because I was primarily concerned with the first group. If the latter group must be trimmed, I could just as easily decide the final X names by flipping a coin, so close are many of them.


                  ABSOLUTES
                  P – Kevin Brown, David Cone, Wes Ferrell, Billy Pierce, Rick Reuschel, Bret Saberhagen, Johan Santana, Urban Shocker, Dave Stieb, Luis Tiant, Billy Wagner
                  C – Charlie Bennett, Thurman Munson, Wally Schang, Ted Simmons
                  1B – Dick Allen, Keith Hernandez, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Joe Start
                  2B – Ross Barnes, Bobby Grich, Willie Randolph, Lou Whitaker
                  3B – Sal Bando, Buddy Bell, Ken Boyer, Darrell Evans, Graig Nettles
                  SS – Bill Dahlen, Jack Glasscock
                  LF – Lance Berkman, Bob Johnson, Charlie Keller, Sherry Magee, Minnie Minoso
                  CF – Jim Edmonds, George Gore, Paul Hines, Kenny Lofton, Jim Wynn
                  RF – Bobby Bonds, Dwight Evans, Reggie Smith
                  Negro Leaguers – John Beckwith, Perucho Cepeda, Home Run Johnson, Dick Lundy, Dobie Moore, Dick Redding, Quincy Trouppe
                  Japanese Leaguers – Isao Harimoto, Shigeo Nagashima, Katsuya Nomura, Hiromitsu Ochiai, Sadaharu Oh


                  PROBABLES
                  P – Babe Adams, Kevin Appier, Tommy Bond, Tommy Bridges, Mark Buehrle, Charlie Buffinton, Bob Caruthers, Wilbur Cooper, Chuck Finley, Dwight Gooden, Orel Hershiser, John Hiller, Tim Hudson, Tommy John, Jim McCormick, Tony Mullane, Joe Nathan, Don Newcombe, Roy Oswalt, Dan Quisenberry
                  C – Bill Freehan, Cal McVey, Lance Parrish, Darrell Porter, Jorge Posada, Jim Sundberg, Gene Tenace
                  1B – Norm Cash, Will Clark, Carlos Delgado, Gil Hodges, Don Mattingly, John Olerud
                  2B – Cupid Childs, Fred Dunlap, Hardy Richardson
                  3B – Ron Cey, Bob Elliott, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Ezra Sutton, Robin Ventura
                  SS – Bert Campaneris, Art Fletcher, Jim Fregosi, Nomar Garciaparra, Vern Stephens, Miguel Tejada
                  LF – Albert Belle, Jose Cruz, Charley Jones, Jimmy Sheckard, Harry Stovey, Bobby Veach
                  CF – Pete Browning, Willie Davis, Tommy Leach, Dale Murphy, Bernie Williams
                  RF – Rocky Colavito, Tony Oliva, Dave Parker
                  Negro Leaguers – Newt Allen, Hurley McNair, Alejandro Oms, Chino Smith, Wild Bill Wright
                  Japanese Leaguers – Akira Bessho, Yutaka Enatsu, Yutaka Fukumoto, Kazuhisa Inao, Masaichi Kaneda, Hiromitsu Kadota, Victor Starffin, Koji Yamamoto, Kazuhiro Yamauchi


                  Figured I'd start things out. Folks, if I can make these kinds of lists, anyone can. Looking forward to reading yours.
                  Awesome list Chadwick

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                  • #10
                    If this ever really happened, we would see Joe Carter, Chili Davis, Chet Lemon and just about any other player who accumulated a lot of playing time over the past 50 years in the HOF. We would still not see people like Ross Barnes or Doc Adams in the HOF.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                      If this ever really happened, we would see Joe Carter, Chili Davis, Chet Lemon and just about any other player who accumulated a lot of playing time over the past 50 years in the HOF. We would still not see people like Ross Barnes or Doc Adams in the HOF.
                      Chet Lemon would be awesome

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                      • #12
                        It was tough but I went more with what I feel is correct vs favorites as in the past I've ranked certain players higher than I should have. You could probably swap out 90-100 with about 30 other players and it would still look right. I put Dobie Moore in the top 10 and included Sheckard, Leach, and Fletcher in the top 25. Just felt as though I was being more honest with myself.

                        Bill Dahlen SS
                        Bobby Grich 2B
                        Jim Edmonds CF
                        Dick Allen 3B
                        Johan Santana P
                        Charlie Bennett C
                        Dobie Moore SS
                        Joe Jackson RF
                        Bobby Bonds RF
                        Jack Glasscock SS
                        Sherry Magee LF
                        Art Fletcher SS
                        Charlie Keller LF
                        Ted Simmons C
                        Jimmy Sheckard LF
                        David Cone P
                        Bret Saberhagen P
                        Tommy Leach 3B
                        Lou Whitaker 2B
                        Bob Caruthers P
                        Mark McGwire 1B
                        Dave Stieb P
                        Jimmy Wynn CF
                        Keith Hernandez 1B
                        Wes Ferrell P
                        Pete Browning CF
                        Bobby Veach LF
                        Graig Nettles 3B
                        Reggie Smith RF
                        Roy White LF
                        Luis Tiant P
                        Darrell Evans 3B
                        Urban Shocker P
                        Eddie Cicotte P
                        Dick Lundy SS
                        Buddy Bell 3B
                        Willie Davis CF
                        Lance Berkman LF
                        Thurman Munson C
                        Minnie Minoso LF
                        Billy Pierce P
                        Heinie Groh 3B
                        Kevin Appier P
                        Cupid Childs 2B
                        Rick Reuschel P
                        Jose Cruz LF
                        Bill Freehan C
                        Ken Boyer 3B
                        Fred Dunlap 2B
                        Wally Schang C
                        Babe Adams P
                        Bob Johnson LF
                        Kenny Lofton CF
                        Vern Stephens SS
                        Hardy Richardson 2B
                        Willie Randolph 2B
                        Brian Giles RF
                        Will Clark 1B
                        Grant Johnson SS
                        Al Rosen 3B
                        Chuck Finley P
                        Harry Stovey LF
                        Bert Campaneris SS
                        Paul Hines CF
                        Tony Oliva RF
                        Tony Mullane P
                        Jack Fournier 1B
                        John Beckwith 3B
                        Tommy Bond P
                        Rafael Palmeiro 1B
                        Ross Barnes 2B
                        Sal Bando 3B
                        Roy Oswalt P
                        Wally Berger CF
                        Gene Tenace C
                        Charlie Buffinton P
                        George Gore CF
                        Dwight Evans RF
                        Jim Fregosi SS
                        John Olerud 1B
                        Orel Hershiser P
                        Dwight Gooden P
                        Gil Hodges 1B
                        Stan Hack 3B
                        Jorge Posada C
                        Rocky Colavito RF
                        Nomar Garciaparra SS
                        Norm Cash 1B
                        Fred McGriff 1B
                        Quincy Trouppe C
                        Albert Belle LF
                        Jesse Barfield RF
                        Carlos Delgado 1B
                        Bernie Williams CF
                        Dave Parker RF
                        Willie Wilson CF
                        Dan Quisenberry P
                        Dale Murphy CF
                        Tommy John P
                        Jim Kaat P




                        Last edited by Stieb37; 11-17-2019, 07:13 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stieb37 View Post
                          It was tough but I went more with what I feel is correct vs favorites.

                          Bill Dahlen SS
                          Bobby Grich 2B
                          Jim Edmonds CF
                          Dick Allen 3B
                          Johan Santana P
                          Charlie Bennett C
                          Dobie Moore SS
                          Joe Jackson RF
                          Bobby Bonds RF
                          Jack Glasscock SS
                          Sherry Magee LF
                          Art Fletcher SS
                          Charlie Keller LF
                          Ted Simmons C
                          Jimmy Sheckard LF
                          David Cone P
                          Bret Saberhagen P
                          Tommy Leach 3B
                          Lou Whitaker 2B
                          Bob Caruthers P
                          Mark McGwire 1B
                          Dave Stieb P
                          Jimmy Wynn CF
                          Keith Hernandez 1B
                          Wes Ferrell P
                          Pete Browning CF
                          Bobby Veach LF
                          Graig Nettles 3B
                          Reggie Smith RF
                          Roy White LF
                          Luis Tiant P
                          Darrell Evans 3B
                          Urban Shocker P
                          Eddie Cicotte P
                          Dick Lundy SS
                          Buddy Bell 3B
                          Willie Davis CF
                          Lance Berkman LF
                          Thurman Munson C
                          Minnie Minoso LF
                          Billy Pierce P
                          Heinie Groh 3B
                          Kevin Appier P
                          Cupid Childs 2B
                          Rick Reuschel P
                          Jose Cruz LF
                          Bill Freehan C
                          Ken Boyer 3B
                          Fred Dunlap 2B
                          Wally Schang C
                          Babe Adams P
                          Bob Johnson LF
                          Kenny Lofton CF
                          Vern Stephens SS
                          Hardy Richardson 2B
                          Willie Randolph 2B
                          Brian Giles RF
                          Will Clark 1B
                          Grant Johnson SS
                          Al Rosen 3B
                          Chuck Finley P
                          Harry Stovey LF
                          Bert Campaneris SS
                          Paul Hines CF
                          Tony Oliva RF
                          Tony Mullane P
                          Jack Fournier 1B
                          John Beckwith 3B
                          Tommy Bond P
                          Rafael Palmeiro 1B
                          Ross Barnes 2B
                          Sal Bando 3B
                          Roy Oswalt P
                          Wally Berger CF
                          Gene Tenace C
                          Charlie Buffinton P
                          George Gore CF
                          Dwight Evans RF
                          Jim Fregosi SS
                          John Olerud 1B
                          Orel Hershiser P
                          Dwight Gooden P
                          Gil Hodges 1B
                          Stan Hack 3B
                          Jorge Posada C
                          Rocky Colavito RF
                          Nomar Garciaparra SS
                          Norm Cash 1B
                          Fred McGriff 1B
                          Quincy Trouppe C
                          Albert Belle LF
                          Jesse Barfield RF
                          Carlos Delgado 1B
                          Bernie Williams CF
                          Dave Parker RF
                          Willie Wilson CF
                          Dan Quisenberry P
                          Dale Murphy CF
                          Tommy John P
                          Jim Kaat P




                          If you're going to let Joe Jackson & Eddir Cicotte in, then don't you pretty much have to let Pete Rose in too.

                          I don't feel strongly either way, but I do think one should be consistent.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cougar View Post

                            If you're going to let Joe Jackson & Eddir Cicotte in, then don't you pretty much have to let Pete Rose in too.

                            I don't feel strongly either way, but I do think one should be consistent.
                            While we're at it, also Buck Weaver, Hal Chase, and Russ Ford as well.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cougar View Post

                              If you're going to let Joe Jackson & Eddir Cicotte in, then don't you pretty much have to let Pete Rose in too.

                              I don't feel strongly either way, but I do think one should be consistent.
                              Yeah he's one of those 30 guys that I would feel comfortable swapping out with 90-100. I would still rank Cicotte and Shoeless higher based on a greater peak than Rose.

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