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  • Home Run HoF Project: Year 7 - 1944


    Home Run Hall of Fame

    Rules:
    • This is a hall of fame for home run hitters only.
    • We're going to induct position players yearly at the same rate as the actual HoF including the Negro Leagues. All halves will be rounded up.
    • In 1950, '60, '70, etc. we will elect one eligible pitcher, just for fun.
    • I'll close and open elections on Sunday mornings.
    • Players become eligible after being retired for five seasons including Gehrig, Clemente and alike.
    • You are not limited to the 25 career leaders I list. You may take anything or nothing into account - position, context, peak, longevity, clutch homers, but you need to keep it home run-centric. We are not taking slugging or doubles and triples or anything like that into consideration.
    • Players receive points inverted and doubled so...
    Example:
    1. Ruth - 8 points
    2. Gehrig - 6 points
    3. DiMaggio - 4 points
    4. Mantle - 2 points
    1944 Election - 3 Inductees: Ballots of 6
    (players retired after 1938 season or earlier)

    eligible career home run leaders:

    Goose Goslin - 249 (led league 0x)
    Jim Bottomley - 219 (1x)
    Harry Heilmann - 183 (0x)
    Tony Lazzeri - 178 (0x)
    Chick Hafey - 164 (0x)
    Bob Meusel - 156 (1x)
    Bill Terry - 154 (0x)
    High Pockets Kelly - 148 (1x)
    Jack Fournier - 136 (1x)
    Travis Jackson - 135 (0x)
    Zack Wheat - 132 (0x)
    Kiki Cuyler - 128 (0x)
    Marty McManus - 120 (0x)
    Mickey Cochrane - 119 (0x)
    Jimmy Ryan - 118 (1x)
    Tilly Walker - 118 (1x)
    Ty Cobb - 117 (1x)
    Tris Speaker - 117 (1x)
    Bing Miller - 116 (0x)
    Lefty O'Doul - 113 (0x)
    Hugh Duffy - 106 (2x)
    Mike Tiernan - 106 (2x)
    Irish Meusel - 106 (0x)
    Frankie Frisch - 105 (0x)
    George Sisler - 102 (0x)
    Honus Wagner - 101 (0x)
    Ed Delahanty - 101 (2x)
    Cap Anson - 97 (0x)
    Sam Crawford - 97 (2x)

    career home run leaders:

    Lip Pike: 1872-79
    Charley Jones: 1880-81, '83-84
    Jim O'Rourke: 1882
    Harry Stovey: 1885-86, '89-94
    Dan Brouthers: 1887-88
    Roger Connor: 1895-1920
    Babe Ruth: 1921-present
    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

  • #2
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    1936                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other   
    Harry Stovey        Philadelphia Athletics  1B/OF         122       held career record for 8 seasons, A.A. career leader
    Gavvy Cravath       Philadelphia Phillies     RF          119                  led the N.L. 6x in 7 seasons
    Home Run Baker      Philadelphia Athletics    3B           96        2 GW-HR in '11 world series, 4x consec. A.L. leader
    1937                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other 
    Cy Williams         Philadelphia Phillies     CF          259         only deadball and live ball home run champion
    Roger Connor        New York Giants           1B          138                held career record for 23 years
    1938                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other 
    Lip Pike            Atlantic                  CF           21          led league 4x, held career record for 8 years
    1939                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other  
    Dan Brouthers       Detroit Wolverines        1B          107                 held career record for 2 years
    Ken Williams        St. Louis Browns          LF          196                   first 30/30 player in 1922
    Charley Jones       Cincinnati Reds           LF           54                 held career record for 4 years    
    Sam Thompson        Philadelphia Phillies     RF          126                   first 20/20 player in 1889
    Harry Davis         Philadelphia Athletics    1B           75                      led A.L. 4x in a row  
    1942                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other 
    Babe Ruth           New York Yankees         COF          714                  revolutionized the home run
    1943                Team                     Pos.      career HR                          other 
    Hack Wilson         Chicago Cubs              CF          244          N.L. record 56 HR in '30, led 4x in 5 years
    Rogers Hornsby      St. Louis Cardinals       2B          301        first player with 40 HR and .400 average in '22
    Wildfire Schulte    Chicago Cubs              RF           92                    2x N.L. home run champ
    Last edited by bluesky5; 03-07-2020, 07:15 AM.
    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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    • #3
      My ballot:

      1. Ned Williamson
      2. Buck Freeman
      3. Goose Goslin
      4. Ed Delahanty
      5. Sam Crawford
      6. Jim O'Rourke
      Last edited by bluesky5; 03-06-2020, 11:29 PM.
      "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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      • #4
        O' Rourke
        Williamson
        Freeman
        Goslin
        High Pockets
        Bob Meusel
        This week's Giant

        #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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        • #5
          1. Buck Freeman
          2. Mike Tiernan
          3. Ed Delahanty
          4. Ned Williamson
          5. Goose Goslin - it's not his fault Ruth was taking all the potential HR crowns or #griffithstadium
          6. George Kelly


          Under consideration; williamson. Heilmann, Bottomley and Crawford

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          • #6
            1. Jim O'Rourke
            2. Hugh Duffy
            3. Sam Crawford
            4. Goose Goslin
            5. Jim Bottomley
            6. High Pockets Kelly

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post


              eligible career home run leaders:

              Goose Goslin - 249 (led league 0x)
              Jim Bottomley - 219 (1x)
              Harry Heilmann - 183 (0x)
              Tony Lazzeri - 178 (0x)
              Chick Hafey - 164 (0x)
              Bob Meusel - 156 (1x)

              Tony Lazzeri still should wait another year, since he played in 1939

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              • #8
                1. Goose Goslin
                2. Buck Freeman
                3. Ned Williamson
                4. Jim O'Rourke
                5. Jim Bottomly
                6. Tillie Walker


                Last edited by dgarza; 03-07-2020, 09:31 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dgarza View Post

                  Tony Lazzeri still should wait another year, since he played in 1939
                  Oooops, I'll just leave him on the list for next year. If someone votes for him I'll let them know.
                  "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                  • #10
                    1. Goose Goslin
                    2. Buck Freeman
                    3. Jim Bottomley
                    4. Jim O'Roarke
                    5. Ned Williamson
                    6. Sam Crawford

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                    • #11
                      1. DElahanty
                      2. Crawford
                      3. Freeman
                      4. Goslin
                      5. Williamson
                      6. Honus Wagner

                      I'm thinking that Honus Wagner deserves consideration. He never led his league in homers, but he played much/most of his career in almost impossible home run parks. He reputedly was one of the strongest men in baseball and had a reputation for many long hits. I may change my vote and add him.

                      NOTE- I CHANGED MY VOTE AND ADDED WAGNER< DELETED O"ROURKE>
                      Last edited by BigRon; 03-11-2020, 11:06 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I will admit I'm groping around for an internally consistent methodology in completing these ballots. I'm struggling with the criteria I should use to rank players and how to rank order or weight the various factors. As a consequence, I fear my ballots from iteration to iteration are all over the place.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                          1. DElahanty
                          2. Crawford
                          3. Freeman
                          4. Goslin
                          5. Williamson
                          6. O'Rourke

                          I'm thinking that Honus Wagner deserves consideration. He never led his league in homers, but he played much/most of his career in almost impossible home run parks. He reputedly was one of the strongest men in baseball and had a reputation for many long hits. I may change my vote and add him.
                          I agree.The Seamheads Gauge shows that he hit more homers than 88%of his contemporaries.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cougar View Post
                            I will admit I'm groping around for an internally consistent methodology in completing these ballots. I'm struggling with the criteria I should use to rank players and how to rank order or weight the various factors. As a consequence, I fear my ballots from iteration to iteration are all over the place.
                            So what it's just for fun.
                            "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                            • #15
                              If it's ok with you, it's fine by me too.

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