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  • #16
    Chicago Cubs(also not my favorite team):

    C-Gabby Hartnett
    1B-Cap Anson
    2B-Ryne Sandberg
    3B-Ron Santo
    SS-Ernie Banks
    LF-Billy Williams
    CF-Hack Wilson
    RF-Sammy Sosa
    SP-Ferguson Jenkins
    SP-Rick Reuschel
    SP-Mordecai "3-Finger" Brown
    SP-Grover Cleveland Alexander
    SP-Clark Griffith
    SP-RP John Clarkson
    SP-RP Greg Maddux
    SP-RP Carlos Zambrano
    RP-SP Kerry Wood
    RP- Lee Smith
    RP-Bruce Sutter

    Reserves:

    3B-Stan Hack
    SS-Joe Tinker
    2B-Billy Herman
    2B-Johnny Evers
    1B-Frank Chance
    1B-Mark Grace
    SS-Bill Dahlen

    Manager-Frank Chance
    President-Albert G. Spalding
    Owner-Phillip K. Wrigley







    Last edited by NJRob65; 03-19-2020, 05:34 PM.

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    • #17
      Texas Rangers/Washington Senators, Again, not my favorite team.

      C-Ivan Rodriguez
      1B-Rafael Palmeiro
      2B-Ian Kinsler
      3B-Adrian Beltre
      SS-Alex Rodriguez
      LF-Frank Howard
      CF-Josh Hamilton
      RF-Juan Gonzalez

      SP/RP-Kenny Rogers
      SP-Charlie Hough
      SP-Yu Darvish
      SP-Ferguson Jenkins
      SP-Mike Minor
      SP-Gaylord Perry
      SP-Bert Blyleven
      SP-Nolan Ryan
      RP/SP-Jeff Russell
      RP-Francisco Cordero
      RP-John Wetteland

      Reserves:

      3B-Buddy Bell
      C-Jim Sundberg
      SS/3B/2B-Toby Harrah
      1B-Mark Teixeira
      2B-Julio Franco
      3B-Ken McMullen
      LF-Rusty Greer

      Note: Michael Young posted a -1.6rWAA and wasn't ranked.


      Manager:Ron Washington
      GM:Jon Daniels
      Owner: None
      Last edited by NJRob65; 03-19-2020, 06:50 PM.

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      • #18
        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=2078162395
        For those wanting to participate and need a cheat sheet, towards the end of the tabs at the bottom you can see it by teams. I'll post my team in a second.

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        • #19
          Reds under the criterion that they played most of their years/games/at bats for the Reds. For instance Griffey Jr. doesn't make this team due to his number of years in Seattle over Cincinnati.
          C Bench
          1B Rose
          2B Morgan
          SS Larkin
          3b Groh
          LF Foster
          CF Roush
          RF F. Robinson

          Reserves
          C Lombardi
          1B-3b Perez
          2B McPhee
          SS Concepcion
          OF Pinson
          OF Dunn
          OF Griffey Sr.

          SP1 E. Rixey
          SP2 P. Derringer
          SP3 B. Walters
          SP4 D. Luque
          SP5 W. White
          RP1 A. Chapman
          RP2 C. Carroll
          RP3 J. Shaw
          RP4 D. Graves
          RP5 P. Borbon
          RP6 N. Charlton

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          • #20
            Philadelphia Phillies(again not my favorite team)

            C-Darren Dalton
            1B-John Kruk. Ryan Howard has a -5.1bWAA and wasn't rated.
            2B-Chase Utley
            3B-Mike Schmidt
            SS-Jimmy Rollins
            LF-Ed Delahanty
            CF-Richie Ashburn
            RF-Bobby Abreu
            SP-Grover Cleveland Alexander
            SP-Steve Carlton
            SP-Robin Roberts
            SP-Curt Schilling
            SP-Cole Hamels
            SP/RP-Jim Bunning
            SP/RP-Charlie Buffinton
            SP/RP-Chris Short
            SP/RP/2B-Charile Freguson
            RP-Tug McGraw
            RP-Jonathan Papelbon

            Reserves:

            LF/CF-Billy Hamilton
            LF/RF-Sherry Magee
            3B-Dick Allen
            3B-Scott Rolen
            RF-Chuck Klein
            CF-Roy Thomas
            RF-Elmer Flick

            Manager-Charlie Manuel-borderline HOF candidate
            Last edited by NJRob65; 03-21-2020, 10:15 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post
              Philadelphia Phillies

              C-Darren Dalton
              1B-John Kruk. Ryan Howard has a -5.1bWAA and wasn't rated.
              2B-Chase Utley
              3B-Mike Schmidt
              SS-Jimmy RollinsLF-Ed Delahanty
              CF-Richie Ashburn
              RF-Bobby Abreu
              SP-Grover Cleveland Alexander
              SP-Steve Carlton
              SP-Robin Roberts
              SP-Curt Schilling
              SP-Cole Hamels
              SP/RP-Jim Bunning
              SP/RP-Charlie Buffinton
              SP/RP-Chris Short
              SP/RP/2B-Charile Freguson
              RP-Tug McGraw
              RP-Jonathan Papelbon

              Reserves:

              LF/CF-Billy Hamilton
              LF/RF-Sherry Magee
              3B-Dick Allen
              3B-Scott Rolen
              RF-Chuck Klein
              CF-Roy Thomas
              RF-Elmer Flick
              Jimmy Rollins wasn't in italics. do you think he's hall worthy?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by henrich View Post

                Jimmy Rollins wasn't in italics. do you think he's hall worthy?
                No, I don't and he's not particularly close. He was undeserving of his 2007 NL MVP Award, he wasn't even the most valuable player on his own team, Chase Utley was. He was, however, easily the best shortstop in Phillies history. Dave Bancroft, a Hall of Fame member, is probably a distant second but it was too much of a stretch to let Bancroft in as a reserve. It was probably a bit disingenuous of me to include Elmer Flick as a reserve, Sam Thompson(another HoFer) was also considered, JohnnyCallison was the most worthy candidate.
                Last edited by NJRob65; 03-21-2020, 10:13 AM.

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                • #23
                  The best team of players that primarily played for the best franchise in the history of baseball - the Philadelphia Phillies:

                  Lineup:

                  1. L Billy Hamilton - 8
                  2. L Chase Utley - 4
                  3. R Ed Delahanty - 7
                  4. R Mike Schmidt - 5
                  5. L Ryan Howard - 3
                  6. L Sam Thompson - 9
                  7. B Jimmy Rollins - 6
                  8. R Bob Boone - 2
                  9. R/R Pete Alexander - 9 no, the Cubs can't have him

                  Bench:

                  R Dick Allen - CIF/LF
                  R Dave Bancroft - IF
                  B Charlie Ferguson - P/2B/OF

                  L Richie Ashburn - CF/OF
                  R Sherry Magee - LF/UT
                  L Chuck Klein - COF

                  R Carlos Ruiz - C

                  Starters:

                  L Steve Carlton
                  R Robin Roberts
                  R Curt Schilling
                  R Jim Bunning
                  L Cole Hamels

                  Bullpen:

                  (R Charlie Ferguson - LR)
                  L Tug McGraw - LHS
                  L Chris Short - MR
                  R Jim Konstanty - MR

                  R Brad Lidge - CL

                  General Manager: Paul Owens

                  Manager: Charlie Manuel

                  Coaches: Larry Bowa, Gene Mauch, Danny Ozark, Jim Fregosi
                  Last edited by bluesky5; 03-21-2020, 12:29 PM.
                  "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by NJRob65 View Post

                    No, I don't and he's not particularly close. He was undeserving of his 2007 NL MVP Award, he wasn't even the most valuable player on his own team, Chase Utley was. He was, however, easily the best shortstop in Phillies history. Dave Bancroft, a Hall of Fame member, is probably a distant second but it was too much of a stretch to let Bancroft in as a reserve. It was probably a bit disingenuous of me to include Elmer Flick as a reserve, Sam Thompson(another HoFer) was also considered, JohnnyCallison was the most worthy candidate.
                    That's interesting...I'm not from Philly, so I was curious as to your opinion. Rollins scores extremely high in my system, and I'm a bit anxious about it ,because I'm not sure he showed that with his play when you watched him in real life. However, his numbers do extremely well for me.

                    thanks for the perspective.

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                    • #25
                      Houston Astros-Again, not my favorite team:

                      C-Jason Castro
                      1B-Jeff Bagwell
                      2B(C,CF)-Craig Biggio
                      3B-Alex Bregman
                      SS-Carlos Correa
                      LF-Jose Cruz
                      CF-Cesar Cedeno
                      RF(CF)-George Springer
                      SP-Roy Oswalt
                      SP-Larry Dierker
                      SP-Roger Clemens
                      SP-Justin Verlander
                      SP-Don Wilson
                      SP-Mike Scott
                      SP-Nolan Ryan
                      SP-Mike Hampton
                      RP-Octavio Dotel
                      RP-Dave Smith
                      RP-Billy Wagner

                      Reserves:

                      1B/LF/RF-Lance Berkman
                      CF/RF-Jim Wynn
                      2B-Jose Altuve
                      2B-Joe Morgan
                      2B-Bill Doran
                      RF/CF/LF- Terry Puhl
                      SS-Dickie Thon

                      Joe Niekro could be a SP/RP. Ken Forsch & Turk Farrell are also candidates.

                      MGR-A.J. Hinch
                      GM-Tal Smith
                      Owner-Drayton McLane Jr.
                      Last edited by NJRob65; 03-21-2020, 11:44 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Has anyone done the Giants?

                        Lineup:

                        1. B George Davis - 6
                        2. L Bill Terry - 3
                        3. R Willie Mays - 8
                        4. L Barry Bonds - 7
                        5. L Mel Ott - 9
                        6. R Buck Ewing - 2
                        7. R Matt Williams - 5
                        8. L Larry Doyle - 4 (Frankie Frisch is a primarily thought of as a Cardinal I think)
                        9. R/R Christy Mathewson - 2

                        Bench:

                        L Willie McCovey - 1B/LF
                        B Roger Connor - CIF
                        R Travis Jackson - IF
                        R Orlando Cepeda - 1B/LF

                        R Bobby Bonds - OF

                        R Buster Posey - C/1B

                        Starters:

                        L Carl Hubbell
                        R Amos Rusie
                        R Juan Marichal
                        R Mickey Welch
                        R Tim Keefe
                        L Madison Bumgarner
                        R Gaylord Perry
                        R Joe McGinnity

                        Bullpen:

                        R Rod Beck
                        R Rob Nen

                        General Manager: John McGraw

                        Manager: John McGraw

                        Coaches: Jim Mutrie, Leo Durocher, Bruce Bochy, Dusty Baker
                        Last edited by bluesky5; 03-21-2020, 12:24 PM.
                        "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                        • #27
                          Cincinnati Reds...

                          Lineup:

                          1. B Pete Rose - 9
                          2. R Barry Larkin - 6
                          3. L Joe Morgan - 4
                          4. R Frank Robinson - 7
                          5. R Johnny Bench - 2
                          6. L Joey Votto - 3
                          7. R Tony Perez - 5
                          8. L Edd Roush - 8
                          9. L Noodles Hahn - 1

                          Bench:

                          R George Foster - OF
                          R Charley Jones - OF
                          L Vada Pinson - CF/OF

                          R Bid McPhee - 2B
                          R Davey Concepcion - IF
                          R Heinie Groh - IF
                          (B Tony Mullane - CIF/OF)

                          R Ernie Lombardi - C

                          Starters:

                          R Tony Mullane
                          L Eppa Rixey
                          R Will White
                          R Bucky Walters
                          R Dolph Luque
                          R Jose Rijo

                          Bullpen:

                          R Clay Carroll
                          R Rob Dibble

                          L Aroldis Chapman - CL

                          General Manager: Larry MacPhail

                          Manager: Bill McKechnie

                          Coaches: Sparky Anderson, Pat Moran, Fred Hutchinson, Jack Hendricks
                          "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                          • #28
                            Kansas City Royals:

                            C- Salvador Perez
                            1B- John Mayberry
                            2B- Frank White
                            3B- George Brett
                            SS- Fred Patek
                            LF(CF)- Willie Wilson
                            CF- Amos Otis
                            RF- Danny Tartabull
                            SP- Kevin Appier
                            SP- Bret Saberhagen
                            SP- Mark Gubicza
                            SP- Zack Grenke
                            SP- Charlie Leibrandt
                            SP- David Cone
                            SP/RP- Al Fitzsimmons
                            RP/SP- Tom Gordon
                            RP- Joakim Soria
                            RP- Jeff Montgomery
                            RP- Dan Quisenberry

                            Bench:

                            CF-Carlos Beltran
                            CF- Lorenzo Cain
                            LF/3B- Alex Gordon
                            C-Darrell Porter
                            3B/1B- Kevin Seitzer
                            CF/LF/RF Johhny Damon
                            2B/OF- Whit Merrifield

                            MGR- Whitey Herzog
                            GM- John Schuerholtz
                            Owner- Ewing Kauffman

                            Note: Paul Splittorff has a pitching bWAA of -2.3 and an overall -1.8bWAA and is not rated.
                            Last edited by NJRob65; 03-23-2020, 05:47 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Washington Nationals/Montreal Expos

                              C- Gary Carter
                              1B- Ron Fairly
                              2B- Ron Hunt
                              3B- Anthony Rendon
                              SS- Trea Turner
                              LF- Tim Raines
                              CF- Andre Dawson
                              RF- Vladimir Guerrero
                              SP- Steve Rogers
                              SP- Max Scherzer
                              SP- Stephen Strasburg
                              SP- Dennis Martinez
                              SP- Pedro Martinez
                              SP- Jordan Zimmerman
                              SP- Gio Gonzalez
                              SP/RP- Jeff Fassero
                              RP- John Wetteland
                              RP- Chad Cordero
                              RP- Tim Burke

                              Reserves:
                              RF/LF- Bryce Harper
                              3B/1B- Ryan Zimmerman
                              3B- Tim Wallach
                              RF- Larry Walker
                              RF- Rusty Staub
                              CF- Marquis Grissom
                              3B/1B/LF- Bob Bailey

                              Note: Andres Galarraga has a -2.0bWAA and is not rated.

                              MGR-Dusty Baker
                              Last edited by NJRob65; 03-22-2020, 03:49 PM.

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                              • #30
                                I would have thought Steve Rogers would have made the list.

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